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alp227

(32,020 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 08:37 PM Mar 2013

LA Times editorial nails it on right wing extremism

Found this on the LA Times Facebook page, and this editorial "Peril from 'patriots'" (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-patriot-groups-splc-report-20130308,0,2444361.story) already is generating angry responses. Excerpt:

There are, in increasingly frightening numbers, cells of angry men in the United States preparing for combat with the U.S. government. They are usually heavily armed, blinded by an intractable hatred, often motivated by religious zeal.

They're not jihadists. They are white, right-wing Americans, nearly all with an obsessive attachment to guns, who may represent a greater danger to the lives of American civilians than international terrorists.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which has been tracking hate groups for 30 years, released its latest report on the growth of these organizations this week. Its findings were, to say the least, alarming. The center divides its subjects into militias, which are mostly groups of weekend warriors who train for combat against imaginary foes; hate groups, which target minorities; and "patriot" groups, whose beef is with the U.S. government. Patriot groups first began surfacing after the massacre of a bizarre sect by federal agents in Waco, Texas, in the early 1990s. They showed their teeth in 1995, when a patriot adherent blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City.

Since then, the patriot movement has been growing at a blistering pace, especially following the election of President Obama in 2008, according to the report. From just 149 groups in 2008, the number jumped to 512 in 2009 and has been rising sharply since. In 2012, it hit 1,360. Now that Obama is seriously pushing for tougher gun laws, further growth is a near certainty. The result? There's no knowing, but some kind of serious attack is increasingly possible.
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LA Times editorial nails it on right wing extremism (Original Post) alp227 Mar 2013 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Wounded Bear Mar 2013 #1
It is a very strange thing to name them, "patriot groups'. They are anything but that. 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #2
they are scared, paranoid assholes Skittles Mar 2013 #8
It's not just NRA garbage obxhead Mar 2013 #17
I don't know why it has been so mind-numbingly slow Skittles Mar 2013 #20
Ditto on so many respects obxhead Mar 2013 #23
Me too, kiddo, me too. cliffordu Mar 2013 #30
Yep, the FR has birthed a monster. They've been working at this for 50yrs. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #50
Ditto. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #67
How about calling them "Patriot groups"? coldmountain Mar 2013 #12
Um, no. I believe that was the point. eggplant Mar 2013 #14
Welcome to DU..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #15
because there is nothing patriotic about them Skittles Mar 2013 #21
Please expand on this obxhead Mar 2013 #24
because "Paranoid Fuckwits" is more accurate? elehhhhna Mar 2013 #38
I prefer "Paranoid fuckwits". Apophis Mar 2013 #51
How about "Ruger Fuckers"? AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #54
But their true nature is anti-American Fear & Hate Groups Berlum Mar 2013 #64
You know maybe we should discuss the terms patriot and patriot groups... busterbrown Mar 2013 #32
Ah. Well... sibelian Mar 2013 #3
That's what I was thinking actually. Blanks Mar 2013 #11
Excellent editorial. jsr Mar 2013 #4
Why do we have the DHS for? SCVDem Mar 2013 #5
DHS tried to warn the Congress of the disturbing number of such groups early in BHO's indepat Mar 2013 #28
Yep. I remember that, Except it wasn't JUST the annabanana Mar 2013 #37
Thanks for your savvy in being able to provide this very germane link indepat Mar 2013 #42
k&r nt steve2470 Mar 2013 #6
This, again, is why some of us have been saying since Newtown... Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #7
#2. true it feeds their persecution fantasies.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #9
i especially like the concluding paragraph (spoiler alert).. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #10
It's called "stochastic terrorism". The probability that an act of terrorism SharonAnn Mar 2013 #60
Enemy combatants defined. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #13
yup some un*hinged* comments on the LA times section.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #16
Patriots are violating The Wizard Mar 2013 #18
Vampire Patriots. GiveMeFreedom Mar 2013 #22
We can fight this. daybranch Mar 2013 #19
A lot of data there... napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #26
we stared getting the L.P.L.C. news letter olddots Mar 2013 #25
I believe this is the biggest threat to public safety CanonRay Mar 2013 #27
R#58 & K n/t UTUSN Mar 2013 #29
They're not patriotic.. they're idiotic.. fueled by lies from limpbaugh, pox Cha Mar 2013 #31
What the hell is wrong with white males in America? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #33
Their paranoia kinda reminds me of that of InfoWars junkies..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #35
Frankly, I feel most of them WANT civilation to collapse... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #44
Yep, pretty much so. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #45
No kidding. Especially since the climate doomers at least have science behind them... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #49
Good post, but..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #53
You have got to be joking about the nuclear thing... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #56
No, I'm not, but..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #57
To me, the whole "alien invasion" thing is arrogance.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #61
Dont need Zombie Movies, I watch them shamble down the street everyday kairos12 Mar 2013 #34
I see plenty on the Internet, too. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #36
You can od course, point us towards the handful of "climate doomers" on DU, yes? LanternWaste Mar 2013 #65
Yes, but I won't do it here, not on the boards. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #66
I think some of them are disaster capitalists. Ilsa Mar 2013 #39
They're NOT jihadists? Bull cookies. aquart Mar 2013 #40
the editorial is good, but the picture they ran is a mistake Enrique Mar 2013 #41
The responses are hilarious.... "the commie L.A. Times" Indepatriot Mar 2013 #43
The LA Times began as a right-wing tool lolly Mar 2013 #46
True that, Lolly, I moved to L.A. in 99' and they still had some balance, with several Indepatriot Mar 2013 #62
Their souls are rotting away to nothing. sibelian Mar 2013 #47
Hell, we got a basement full of trigger-happy Bobo's right here who are just *itching* apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #48
With those turkeys around, I'll keep my guns, thank you. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #52
check out topix Buffalo Bull Mar 2013 #55
This is what civilized Republicans used to think of militias Tabasco_Dave Mar 2013 #58
Thank you Tabasco Dave Buffalo Bull Mar 2013 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #63

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Skittles

(153,159 posts)
8. they are scared, paranoid assholes
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:08 PM
Mar 2013

going off the deep end now that the thinking public is not buying NRA garbage

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
17. It's not just NRA garbage
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 11:31 PM
Mar 2013

It's the fact that the overall public (thinking and non thinking) is becoming more acceptable of everyone from people of all colors, people of various sexual orientation, and people of various economic means.

Slowly, ever so mind numbingly slowly, the American public is beginning to realize it is all of us against the very few elite. The more we fight each other the less energy and resources we have to fight our real enemy.

If this country can survive another 50 to 100 years of "growth" we may finally throw down the shackles the elite keep us in and end these groups of blind hate.

Skittles

(153,159 posts)
20. I don't know why it has been so mind-numbingly slow
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 03:02 AM
Mar 2013

I'm white, blonde and blue-eyed and I was in my 20's when I knew Reagan's penchant for making greed and stupidity fashionable would really fuck America. And I have never been racist, homophobic, etc......I've always known the real boogie man wears a suit.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
23. Ditto on so many respects
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 04:36 AM
Mar 2013

White, blond and blue eyed myself and was in my 20's for the second half of Clinton's term.

I don't get it. I really don't, but I've always known those on top are the ones grinding their boot heels upon our backs.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
64. But their true nature is anti-American Fear & Hate Groups
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:30 PM
Mar 2013

So -- along with the rest of decent & honest America -- I think it's important to call them what they are...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
32. You know maybe we should discuss the terms patriot and patriot groups...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 05:59 PM
Mar 2013

The right wing extremists have hijacked these terms since the early 80”s. Maybe we should
have a discussion that when one labels himself as a patriot it doesn’t necessarily mean that
he or she is acting in the best interest of the Country. In fact they are trying to bring down the
country.... So I say it may be its tome to let the term” patriot” go because right now to me it just means uber- xenophobic nationalism......

“Loyal American”???

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
11. That's what I was thinking actually.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:17 PM
Mar 2013

And interestingly... Nothing would do more to prove the complete ineffectiveness of small arms than to take out a 'patriot' training camp with a drone.

Not that I'm for drones and especially not on U.S. soil, but the argument about needing these guns for a 'militia' is not based on any modern reality.

To fight against modern weaponry one hacker would be worth a million rednecks.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
28. DHS tried to warn the Congress of the disturbing number of such groups early in BHO's
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 04:13 PM
Mar 2013

presidency, but the domestic right-wing extremist group in Congress squealed like stuck pigs over DHS calling this to the public's attention. But that domestic right-wing extremist group in Congress had no problem with big brother quashing, harassing, assaulting, pepper spraying, and arresting members of a domestic left-wing group who peacefully protested massive Wall Street fraud and abuse whose perpetrators remain un-indicted. That the controlling influence domestic right-wing groups/individuals have on public policy is rapidly bringing ruin to our society should be clear to all considering domestic right-wing extremists are largely free to brandish their assault weapons and spew their hatred and anti-government sedition, all the while their stochastic terrorists egg the deranged to act out their hatred.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
37. Yep. I remember that, Except it wasn't JUST the
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:08 PM
Mar 2013

RW crazies in Congress. Every single talking head facilitated the outcry by not referencing the FACTS (ahem) and I it was Napolitano who was forced to backpedal



And CorpoMedia PILED ON
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/04/napolitanos-rig/

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
7. This, again, is why some of us have been saying since Newtown...
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:03 PM
Mar 2013

That it is foolish in the extreme to continue harping on gun control at this time. Two reasons:

1. It is pointless in terms of accomplishing the goal of gun control. To be blunt, you will NOT get any kind of meaningful gun control legislation. It cannot pass the house, it cannot pass the senate, Obama would not sign it if it did, and it would be constitutionally questionable if all of that magically took place.

2. If even a mere 10% of NRA members were potentially dangerous -- and remember that the NRA makes up the most passionate segment of the gun owning public, you are still talking about somewhere close to 500,000 potential armed and very dangerous "Patriots." Further, even talking about it feeds into their persecution fantasies.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
9. #2. true it feeds their persecution fantasies..
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:09 PM
Mar 2013

..but those existed before most of us were even born. they *invented* the persecution fantasy and now we must avoid 'harping on gun control at this time' because the crazies, who, recall, were crazy long before we started the harping, might blow something up?

i believe there's a word for that..

terrorism.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
10. i especially like the concluding paragraph (spoiler alert)..
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:11 PM
Mar 2013
What can be done to reverse this tide of belligerent ignorance? Not much. The typical patriot acts within his free-speech and 2nd Amendment rights, and in fact most patriot activity consists of venting steam by meeting with like-minded Neanderthals and firing off blog posts threatening civil war. Yet such blather tends to get under the skin of the Timothy McVeighs of the world. These groups should be closely monitored, with resources adequate to the task, even if it means shifting some homeland security money from the hunt for foreign terrorists.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
60. It's called "stochastic terrorism". The probability that an act of terrorism
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:32 AM
Mar 2013

will occur increase with the rage, vitriol, and activities of these groups.

Eventually a Timothy Veigh gets involved in this thinking and "decides to do something about it".

GiveMeFreedom

(976 posts)
22. Vampire Patriots.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 03:39 AM
Mar 2013

Or, Vampats? any others? Viloa(tion)Pats?

Because they suck out of society what they believe is theirs and they leave corpses behind. They also suck in general.

on edit: smoked to much weed, left out the word LEAVE in a snetnce. (haha)
on edit again: now moved the word LEAVE into the right place. fuck, am I stoned>

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
19. We can fight this.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 11:57 PM
Mar 2013

Brain research has shown that conservative brains respond most actively to fear. This fear when not related to reality is caused paranoia. Knowing that fear excites those feelings of fear the conservative media and conservative political leadership makes outrageous charges ignoring any attempt at context or significance or real relevance to world events. While this is necessary to stimulating support among rank and file ignorant fearful people, it also stimulates the paranoid into embracing and spreading delusions of supposed future attack as it reenforces their racist or other unhealthy values regarding society and the government. This creates more and more crazies signing up for the militia groups.
To be more direct, repubs spread fear, fear drives crazies to become more crazy. When the level of craziness has reached the appropriate level of paranoid frenzy, a new member of the so called patriots has been made.
To stop this from happening, we must call the conservatives on the bull that they spread. We must talk honestly with all our brothers and sisters to allay their fears. We cannot sit idly by while they spread this dishonest vile disinformation. We must get out of our comfort zones and talk to our neighbors. Smiling smugly about the ignorance of others, adds truth to the portrayal of elite intellectuals who care little and think they always know better. The repugnants have seen the benefits of spreading this lie, lets make sure it is not true.

The truth can set us all free!

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
26. A lot of data there...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 05:24 AM
Mar 2013

...for those with an eye for it.

These are the people who see the wealth inequality information and come to the conclusion that we need to get rid of minimum wage. That behaviour right there has just about all the relevant scientific information you need to know about what motivates them.

I was going to respond to the OP with a yawn, and pointing out the fundamental fact, so important, that the scientists are NOT on their side, and that's what really matters in a 21st century landscape. Those who embrace nature as it is have the power to shape the future. But your post spoke to it well enough.

And BTW, the "armed tough guy" conservative scene is the weakest part of that base. Peaceful conservative Christians are way stronger, and their captains of industry are stronger still.

I agree with you on the idea that we should speak our minds, not smile smugly. We are democrats, invested in the democraticization of information, we are invested in the idea that all should know the truth, from the most simple guy to the smartest professor. We betray that when we fail to speak our minds. Even as the most cartoonish character conservatives might laugh at, we have to do it still. That's what moves the whole thing forward.

But yes, we can fight this. Wise analysis reveals how much is on our side: We stare power in the face every day unflinchingly, we are used to being underdogs, that's how we roll. The other side attempts to position itself with whatever billionaire has power. In any conflict, they will roll over if they other side appears to have the advantage, the power, but we never will. That's a fundamental advantage that remains with the party of the stubborn donkey.

PEace!
Nir.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
25. we stared getting the L.P.L.C. news letter
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 04:57 AM
Mar 2013

About 15 years ago and remember the rise in these groups of dickless turd maggots in the mid 90s .It was more difficult to get heavy weapons then and very easy now.Sorry we need gun control and bullet control NOW .I'm not a big fan of Obama but he would sign a bill if it got to him I hope ----I really really hope.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
27. I believe this is the biggest threat to public safety
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:37 AM
Mar 2013

not Al Quaida, at least at this point in time. I'm dreading April, when these wackos seem to hit full stride.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
31. They're not patriotic.. they're idiotic.. fueled by lies from limpbaugh, pox
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 05:53 PM
Mar 2013

on your house, and all the hatemongers on the airwaves in America.

They would known Patriots if they smacked 'em upside the head.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
33. What the hell is wrong with white males in America?
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 06:10 PM
Mar 2013

They claim this country is the greatest on earth and yet they think it's so fragile it will collapse any minute.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
35. Their paranoia kinda reminds me of that of InfoWars junkies.....
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 07:33 PM
Mar 2013

and climate doomers. I mean, when you're looking at any supposed or hypothetical threat, no matter how implausible or remote, such as a Marxist "New World Order", or a global police state, or the (inevitable) collapse of civilization, the extinction of mankind by AGW alone, etc.....chances are, you're likely to start going a little loopy after a while. But then again, that's what sites like Godlike Productions are for(and the Creative Speculation forums on this site, too), I suppose.

(Of course, I'd have included the most extreme of the gun nuts but I think that's already pretty well covered since most of them are already militia/"Patriot" types.)

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
44. Frankly, I feel most of them WANT civilation to collapse...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 09:14 PM
Mar 2013

They picture loading up the SUV with guns and ammo and heading for the hills, then returning to find a bunch of stone age primitive men who can only grunt and busty women in animal hide bikinis who can't talk at all waiting for them.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
45. Yep, pretty much so.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:43 AM
Mar 2013

Truth is, part of the reason I'm so weary of all this is because I used to be a fairly regular visitor of some of these wacky fringe(both of the far-left and the libertarians.) sites in the days before I became a Democrat(I was socially liberal from the age of 15 or so, but I was kinda all over the map otherwise for a bit). If anyone thought the climate doomers didn't make sense(and they never do), some of the stuff you'd see on sites like Above Top Secret, Godless Productions, Rumor Mill News, etc., were actually worse, believe it or not(as in, it's not just Alex Jones and his ilk)!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
49. No kidding. Especially since the climate doomers at least have science behind them...
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:46 AM
Mar 2013

I know it's hard to believe but it actually IS possible to render the planet uninhabitable by digging up what took millions of years to form and dumping it into the atmosphere in a few hundred years.

The other folks you talk about are all about their Turner Diary vision of an all white earth. Anything that gets in the way of that goal is seen by them as a step backwards. They refuse to accept the idea of a world without them being the dominant race.

What's funny is if they got their wish they would then turn on each other.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
53. Good post, but.....
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:34 AM
Mar 2013

I really do need to set one thing straight:

Here's the problem with the climate doomers.....As Alex Jones sometimes does with whatever good information(reports, whistleblowing, etc.) might actually swing his way once in a while, the climate doomers are definitely pretty bad(probably worse. I'm being nice here, though)about twisting and misinterpreting whatever actual science they do cite to suit their own agendas(maybe it's better than always making stuff up outta thin air but not by much in this case, IMHO).

Spitfire, regardless of what you may have heard from whomever(Hansen? Lovelock?), rendering the planet uninhabitable through any known climate change scenario, is really nothing but totally impossible(not that it brings me much comfort), if not a product of fear-mongering; climate change is bad, yes, but it's not even capable of destroying humanity, let alone rendering this whole planet uninhabitable; even thermonuclear war or a Yellowstone eruption couldn't manage that.....(as hard as it is to believe for some, what I have just said is 100% true.)


Anyhow, at least you were certainly very right about the other folks: I myself have long suspected that the radical racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, etc. fringe right, is all but totally in control of most of these "Patriot" organizations. And their ranks are growing, too: you think the Teabaggers were nasty? That's just the tip of the iceberg!
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
56. You have got to be joking about the nuclear thing...
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:28 AM
Mar 2013

There's nothing special about this speck in space that guarantees it's continuity.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
57. No, I'm not, but.....
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:36 AM
Mar 2013

A full-scale nuclear war certainly could have come close enough, though: not just the hundreds of millions vaporized or blown to pieces by blast waves, but from the fallout, wildfires, etc.(and the anarchy, starvation, etc.); IMHO, it wouldn't have been too hard to imagine that perhaps only maybe about something on the order of half a billion people would survive, many of them probably in the Third World.

And, also, it is indeed true, that yes, nothing is really guaranteed: a gamma ray burst could zap us. Aliens could invade and decide to assimilate us. Hell, another K/T level asteroid might smack right into us......and if we hadn't tried to deflect it, that might very well just be the thing that did us all in, even with our knowledge and our capability, etc., just as a gamma ray burst or an invasion by particularly predatory aliens could(or rather, would, at least in the case of the former).

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
61. To me, the whole "alien invasion" thing is arrogance....
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:11 PM
Mar 2013

It goes back to the idea that "they want what we've got" which is a classic white male fear that has sold a ton of window bars in the suburbs.

Besides, if there was some unique mineral here it could have been taken in the Cenozoic.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
36. I see plenty on the Internet, too.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 07:36 PM
Mar 2013

.....and unfortunately, some on this site included("Obama is a Bushian war criminal!" crazies, "Both parties are the same!" idiots, hardcore gun-nut wackos, climate doomers, etc.).

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
65. You can od course, point us towards the handful of "climate doomers" on DU, yes?
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:10 PM
Mar 2013

You can od course, point us towards the handful of "climate doomers" on DU, yes?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
39. I think some of them are disaster capitalists.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:17 PM
Mar 2013

They want to attack and cause the economy to fall apart so they can take advantage of people who struggle the worst under their plan. It is also to "thin the herd".

Fuck them. I think a former friend wants it to happen. (That's why she's a former friend.)

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
41. the editorial is good, but the picture they ran is a mistake
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:27 PM
Mar 2013

the SPLC reports are meticulously researched, they report on actual groups and their classifications are based on facts. The picture above the editorial looks like just an anti-gun control rally, it suggests that such rallies are equivalent to these militia groups, which is just false. The SPLC would never suggest such a thing.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
43. The responses are hilarious.... "the commie L.A. Times"
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:52 PM
Mar 2013

has been a worthless tool of the corporate right for about five years now, since they purged the staff of about 90% of their actual journalists. It's a pitiful shell of a once fine paper. Boy, the nutters are just making that Bubble bigger and thicker....

lolly

(3,248 posts)
46. The LA Times began as a right-wing tool
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:02 AM
Mar 2013

It fired up anti-union paranoia from its inception.

It may have moved somewhat to the center in the post-Nixon era, but has certainly never been left-wing--not with Jonah Goldberg on its editorial staff!

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
62. True that, Lolly, I moved to L.A. in 99' and they still had some balance, with several
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

excellent lefties to help balance things out a bit. Then, in 05' or so they purged the joint of anyone worth reading. Objectively speaking, I can't see how Goldberg could be employed anywhere as a "journalist"....

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
47. Their souls are rotting away to nothing.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:20 AM
Mar 2013

They have nothing of any consequence to do or be part of. Of course their brains are falling to bits. There's no human consensus available to them on a day to day basis that makes their lives make sense.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
48. Hell, we got a basement full of trigger-happy Bobo's right here who are just *itching*
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:27 AM
Mar 2013

for a Red Dawn-style shootout with the rest of the world and spend no little time in the Gungeon publicly fantasizing about it.

The problem with the dangerous right-wing rhetoric of such outfits as the NRA, the Tea Party, Rush Limbaugh, etc., is that there are any number of frustrated fanatics who simply cannot distinguish between what they hear or see on the radio or on FOX News, and the real world. And these same fanatics are daily strutting about the country, a pistol perched in their pants and an military assault rifle tossed over their shoulders, ranting and raving about their "enumerated rights."

It is scary stuff, and why sensible gun legislation needs to be passed nationwide.

Buffalo Bull

(138 posts)
55. check out topix
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:12 AM
Mar 2013

I also participate in Topix forum. Topix is 80% Gop.
80% of those fit the editorials profile to a tee.
They present outrageous babble and expect you to genuflect before it.

Hitler was a leftist?
The President is preparing to use the UN and an armed FEMA to enslave us?
Any disagreement brings up a geyser of bile.

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