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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUpdate: Ed Schultz was pushed out to make way for new talent
UPDATE: POLITICOs Dylan Byers has more details about the shift, including a statement from MSNBC president Phil Griffin and confirmations from anonymous MSNBC sources that the programming shift was less amicable than Schultz made it out to be.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ed-schultz-announces-he-is-leaving-8-p-m-slot-on-msnbc-moving-to-weekends-in-april/
Schultz, a former sportscaster and current talk-radio host, has hosted MSNBC's "The Ed Show" since 2009, where he became well known for his pro-union advocacy during Wisconsin's special election, among other causes. His new show will air on weekend nights from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m.
MSNBC plans to announce Schultz's replacement tomorrow, network spokesperson Lauren Skowronski told POLITICO.
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Like former MSNBC host Dylan Ratigan, Schultz suggested that the move was his choice: "Im very proud of the work our team has done here at 8 PM, but sitting behind this desk five nights a week doesnt cut it for me," he said. "I want to get out with the people and tell their stories. This show has been a show that has been a voice for the voiceless. That really was my mission when I came here and it remains."
Sources at MSNBC told POLITICO that that was a very generous interpretation of events. Schultz was pushed out to make way for new talent, they said.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/03/msnbc-ending-ed-schultzs-weekday-show-159273.html#.UUEnn_5gHMo.twitter
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)He was great. I will also miss seeing Ed on during the week.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)but after I saw a few shows of his - he kind of stood out as the smartest one of the whole bunch there. I sure didn't agree with some of his criticisms but he was no cowardly boot licker like most of the others at MSNBC.
question everything
(47,479 posts)He put some economic data that cannot be found anyplace else on MSNBC.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)four as a panel (can't remember the name of it).
And I think you're right about the ratings. Wonder why they're messing with this.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Krystal Ball, Toure, Steve Kornacki, and that Republican lady are the hosts. I can see Krystal having her own show.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Better looking than Ed for sure, horrendous content.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)That has to be grinding. I love catching Melissa on the weekend, she gets four hours as opposed to five, and she can maintain her day job in meantime. Ed's wife has had some health issues, and I'm willing to take his word on this. I don't watch or listen to Ed, but I hope his replacement sucks, so my life won't revolve around MSNBC nightly.
JI7
(89,249 posts)also it's politico
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Mike Malloy was on two hours a day on one station here, everything else was Limbaugh, Boortz, Savage or worse.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Our corporate media hates liberals. So no one should be surprised when they push them off the air.
Riverman
(796 posts)Klien said yesterday on one of the shows that Ryan is not an out of touch wacko, or words to that effect, and that his budget "penciled-out." What a douche! I can't stand his pinhead analysis and the "aren't we all in the DC inner circle" pandering by such numb nuts like Wagner on NOW. If they want an bright younger talent give Joy Anne Reid a show. Klien belongs on Politico with all the other faux liberal, neo-conservative stoogges.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)never liked him. He is 'safe'. I never believed he was just another person who was concerned about the country as we all were and as he presented himself to be back then. Many of us suspected he was being backed by someone or some corporate entity even before we knew that this was happening on the internet. He just never seemed legimitate. He wasn't popular, he wasn't an interesting blogger, yet he was being pushed it seemed. Now I know those instincts were correct.
I don't watch any tv anymore. And I certainly wouldn't be watching Ezra Klein, Third Way Ezra! No thanks.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)He's kind of milquetoast, no passion, probably some rich person's kid, who couldn't really care less one way or the other.
It's the trouble with democrats, very little passion, and if they show too much on television, or while running for office, they are disposed of. Why? Anger, verve, intensity, and passion actually work. They show the person really cares about what they are saying.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... since I got here. I truly believe that a lot of voters who don't really understand the issues (and that is a LOT of them) choose based on passion and vehemence. Something Dems rarely bring to the party and Repugs often do.
The issues facing us today with respect to what the govt spends its money on and where it gets it are not minor ones, the outcome/decisions will determine the fate of the country for decades to come.
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)I've been expecting them to be shown the door one-by-one. I believe the pushed out, more than I believe he's just quitting. It's like Cenk, or Dylan, who both were hitting a little too close to the corporate bulls-eye as to our problem, that the rich and corporations own everything. They probably made Keith's life too difficult, though clearly he made his own problems as well, after both of his parents dying. He probably needed time off--I wish he'd reemerge with a vengeance.
Truth is, all I watch regularly is Rachel Maddow these days. And she's a little conservative anyway. I've always said Ed has a better radio show, from 11-2 Central, as he's got callers, and the radio show has always been more liberal. Like most shows that have call ins, they tend to be more liberal than the corporate media offers by design.
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)not by a mile.
In fact, there are 2 MSNBC shows I refuse to have my TV on for - Ed Schultz and Chris Matthews. Both of them are Third Way Democrats, and that's being polite. They are both as conservative as the day is long.
I'm glad to see Schultz out of prime time. Now, if only we can do the same to Chris Matthews.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I first read that as:
They are both as convertible as the day is long.
That one sounds good too! They are weathervane assholes, go with the flow, yell when everyone else starts yelling, followers, herd runners, actors. Sure they have their good days once in a while but not enough of them.
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)I don't watch Ed, simply because I did at first and can't stand his politics.
But, Chris Matthews is an insult to intelligence. The man changes his position, just long enough to reel liberals back in, by putting his finger in the wind when his ratings start to drop.
Never fails with these "convertibles," ratings drive their politics, nothing else.
green for victory
(591 posts)it's right there in the record.
He did manage to fool a lot of people though. Yelling and screaming like he does.
He's a fraud, a liar and a scumbag.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I saw her for the first time two days ago. Good god what a train wreck.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)chillfactor
(7,576 posts)if Ezra Klein is the pick as is being rumored..I will not be watching MSNBC during that time slot...
DakotaLady
(246 posts)are the very same. Whenever he fills in for one of 'regulars' I turn the TV off. Go back to MSNBC after he has left the building. Wasn't he just on a Forbes List recently? Wish now I had bookmarked the article. Maybe Mister Google has something ... will have to check tomorrow ... me sleepy.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)He didn't sound all that mainstream in that show. And when I have seen him on Morning Joe he has been way left of the spectrum.
I'm going to have to wait and see on Ezra...
mzmolly
(50,992 posts)is my choice.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Or at least get rid of his second and third rerun shows.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)dembotoz
(16,804 posts)yeh i know.....................................
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Chris is too enthusiastic for me. He speaks quickly and not always distinctly, and I keep thinking he might benefit from a calmative. It's fine to be really, really enthusiastic from time to time, but Chris is constantly that way.
I'll keep an open mind and hope that he settles into the new spot--and calms down a bit from time to time.
Link: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/chris-hayes-to-take-over-8-p-m-show-on-msnbc/
warrior1
(12,325 posts)Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)He's brilliant and energetic. If he does have the job, I'm thrilled for him. And relieved that it wasn't Ezra, Sippy, or any of the Killer Joe minions.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)I believe Ed. His wife is battling cancer and this is good for him to have more time. Plus, MSNBC had needed a Saturday/Sunday evening show for a long time. It's a win/win. I like the idea of Ed being a Charles Kuralt-type "on the road" for the working class.
As for a replacement, what about Jennifer Granholm from Current? She's a great voice for labor with a pretty face.
Other than that ... Soledad O'Brien from CNN is amazingly good.
But make everyone happy and just bring back Keith Olbermann.