DU Poll, Hawking

[snooper2]

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Overall, do you agree or disagree with the premise in the video

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[SidDithers]

1. Huge K&R!!...nt

Sid

[Journeyman]

2. Yes. I do. "We are each free to believe what we want." . . .

[ZombieHorde]

3. Probably true. nt

[defacto7]

4. Kick..... & R

[defacto7]

5. Kicked again....

[ChisolmTrailDem]

6. That's it right there. Be extremely grateful for this one life because

you have been given an extremely rare gift and instead of being born as any other life form on this planet, you got the ultimate gift of being human.

[Flying Squirrel]

27. 2 things

1. What's wrong with being a cat?

2. How do you know you only get one life? And on only one planet?

[Locut0s]

7. Agreed 100%, this is my philosophy of life. No offence to believers but if god exists he is cruel...

sadistic and evil to allow the kinds of horrors that are visited every day upon perfectly innocent, wonderful people.

The scientific explanation(s) of the universe are so much more beautiful, natural, wonderful to me that a spiritual explanation isn't required, and in fact feels like a tacky add on.

[RKP5637]

29. +++ 1,000,000 +++

[Demonaut]

8. I guess this destroys the maxim "no athiests in foxholes"

he's been in a foxhole most of his life

[Solly Mack]

9. Yes

[opiate69]

10. But.. but.. but!!!

He said the "grand design of the universe" so if it was designed, who designed it, Mr. Smart-guy?? Well? Huh? Huh?....

/apologetic nonsense

[Ron Obvious]

11. Certainly.

It's why I'm an environmentalist too.

[liberal_at_heart]

12. no one knows. Anyone who claims to know there is a God or that there isn't a God is full of crap.

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. Truth.

[cthulu2016]

18. Does that go for Leprechauns? And if not, why not?

Sorry, but your argument makes no sense at all.

[liberal_at_heart]

20. don't look now, but your superiority complex is showing! awkward.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. why?

WHY does that particular logical assertion and argument apply to "god" but not to "leprechauns"?


That's a serious logical question, and if one really wants to put "god" down on the table of rational logical statements, getting pissed off at people for asking it instead of delivering a rational logical response isn't really called for.

The rational, logical response is that it's just as equally impossible to disprove leprechauns, unicorns, smoke monsters, 400 foot tall invisible undetectable orangutans, the tooth fairy, grumpkins and snarks as it is to disprove "god".

That's the rational, logical response.

[SidDithers]

41. Exactly...

It's like saying "Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are all fictional. But Spider-Man? HE'S REAL!!"

Sid

[MattBaggins]

25. It's not awkward at all

your lumping believers with disbelievers is fundamentally flawed.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. But..but..beilieving that there is a God looking after me, makes ME feel important.

Whereas, without a God to make ME, lay down the rules for ME, and promise ME eternal life, I'll have to settle for just being something that happened for a very brief time.

We're only important because we have the capacity to tell ourselves we are.

[liberal_at_heart]

15. but..but being condescending and superior to believers makes me feel important.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. "Man is the only animal to have discovered the one true God....several of them." Mark Twain

See ya' in the afterlife. Have a safe trip.

[snooper2]

32. I highly recommend you spend some time reviewing the material

in post 31, it's only 40 minutes of your life to, understand your life-

[Arugula Latte]

36. And, coincidentally, God looks like a human! A giant, nebulous human!

Pay no attention to those other billions of galaxies and the many planets that probably have life on them or the fact that modern humans did not appear until very, very, very recently as compared to the age of the planet and the universe, for that matter ... The entire focus of the universe and God is Earth, and the people who live on the planet!

[Scootaloo]

17. Remindes me of that line from the Principia Discordia...

"I am Chaos; I am alive, and I tell you that you are free."

[snot]

19. Is this an excerpt from something, and if so, what?

I'd like to see the whole thing.

[Fearless]

23. I believe that's from Stephen Hawking's Into the Universe

It was a short running series on Discovery a few years ago. I'm not sure which episode particularly that was from though I'm afraid.

[hootinholler]

30. There is a show called Curiosity

One of the episodes was Hawking discussing the lack of evidence for a God.

[snooper2]

31. Here you go, commercial free :)

He even talks about his own disablity at one point (and god)

[olddots]

21. who here can prove they are alive ?

I think therefore I am
I believe therefore I ?

[snooper2]

40. got a MRI machine handy?

[RudynJack]

22. I had the pleasure

of seeing Professor Hawking a few years back. He's not just brilliant, he's funny and he's an incredible inspiration. I can't imagine what he has to deal with, but he does it every day with grace and humor.

Edited to say: he basically communicates through one muscle in his cheek. And one day, he'll lose that ability. Then he'll be just a shell. A brilliant mind that can't communicate. That is such a fearsome future, that I'm awe that he does what he does. I'd be huddled in bed, crying.

[Skittles]

26. I saw him give a presentation where I work

I entered a lottery for tickets - got everyone on my team to join in but did not win - but the day of the lecture I received a call from someone who was sick, and knew I wanted to see Mr. Hawking, so I got her ticket. I LOVED IT!!!

[Live and Learn]

28. So, nothing could have existed before time?

That seems a bit close-minded. The simplest explanation is not always the correct one.

[snooper2]

33. time itself began at the instant of the big bang

[Lizzie Poppet]

34. "Before time" is something of a contradiction-in-terms. (nt)

[Dpm12]

35. Lifelong atheist here

And I will always be one

[bemildred]

37. Pretty much.

I don't believe that there is no deity, it's hard to prove a negative in the best of cases, however it's pretty clear that any such deities do not meddle with our affairs in this world much, so yes, we are on our own, and supposed to be that way too.

[HuckleB]

38. Good stuff!

Life is incredible, and we are at a place in time where knowledge is outstripping the need for anecdotal human constructs like homeopathy and...

[lumberjack_jeff]

39. "probably no God"? "Probably no afterlife?" Mostly agree, I guess.

However...
Consciousness is so inextricably tied up in the operation of the universe at the quantum level, that I'm of the opinion that my consciousness is not simply in my head.

But yeah, "belief" is the opposite of everything I aspire to.

http://quantumenigma.com/