Sexist men prefer bigger boobs: study

[The Straight Story]

Men’s attitudes toward women influence their thoughts about the ideal breast size, a new study has claimed. In the study conducted by the University of Westminster, the researchers interviewed 361 white, heterosexual men, ranging in age from 18 to 68. Each man was shown five different 3-D models of women, each with a different breast size, and he was then asked to record which woman he found most physically attractive.

Afterwards, the participants were given surveys to measure each man’s level of hostility toward women, his attitudes about relationships between men and women, benevolent sexism and how much he objectified women.

The study found that 32.7 percent rated medium-sized breasts as most attractive, followed by large (24.4 percent), very large (19.1 percent), small (15.5 percent) and very small (8.3 percent), the Huffington Post reported.

However, a preference for large and very large breasts was significantly correlated with overt sexism, benevolent sexism, female objectification and hostile attitudes toward women and this connection was strongest when it came to benevolent sexism.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/sexandrelationships/why-sexist-men-perceive-big-boobs-more-desirable/article1-1025029.aspx

[leftyohiolib]

1. you can find a study to prove anything you want proven

[The Straight Story]

2. Do you have a study for that?

[dipsydoodle]

3. Trust me.

There is definitely more to life than big boobs.

[Ganja Ninja]

4. I'm going to have to do some more research on this.

[Nye Bevan]

5. Wow. Just wow. Whoever could have predicted that? (nt)

[HappyMe]

6. Meh. Who gives a crap.

[RC]

7. Must be why I prefer smaller 'boobs'

I could never understand the fascination for large breasts. What's sexy about breasts in the arm pits, when the woman is lying on her back? Or when she's standing - soccer anyone? Don't think so.
The discomfort of bra straps from heavy breasts. The back pain from being off balance all day. Normal is better.

[yellowcanine]

11. I actually like all sizes when it comes to boobs. What does that make me?

[Tabasco_Dave]

206. Will Rogers

You never saw boobs you didn't like.

[NCTraveler]

14. You should try giving the woman attached to the breasts a moment of your time. nt

[RC]

18. The subject was "Breasts"

I stated my opinion on the subject of the OP. That was all.
Stop denigrating me for it and posting assumptions about people you do not know.

[NCTraveler]

22. I am fine with posting assumptions based on what I read.

And am happy with my post as it stands.

Please define these "normal" breasts that you prefer.

[RC]

28. Depends on the size of the woman.

And how tall - or not. Her shape, apple, pear, Tinker toy...

[CherokeeDem]

17. What's normal????

Considering the incredible variety of breast size...I don't think the description 'normal' applies. As for sexist men preferring larger breasts, maybe some do, maybe some don't....but I have big boobs, and you know what...the men in my life have ranged from hippies when I was younger to progressives now. I might have large boobs, but I do have a choice.

I'm wondering if they have done a similar survey on male endowment and how women react. That would be interesting...

[daleanime]

21. Unfortunately, that would be a simple....

and fairly steep curve.

[CherokeeDem]

34. Yeah...

that's what I think....

[redqueen]

51. Your choice to share your thoughts on large breasts says more about you

than this study does about men in general.

Thanks so much for sharing.

[RC]

69. Oh, you're quite welcome.

[nolabear]

86. Mother of God...

There are SO many things I'm not saying right now. And yes, they're big. And magnificent.

[redqueen]

99. Oh, I think you should say it. I think every large-breasted woman

should show some appreciation for RC's gracious candor here.

[ismnotwasm]

8. I saw that

I didn't think it was well done study. Interesting though. I wonder what would happen if they had had diversity in the sample size?

College men wasn't it?

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. Small to medium here...

Same number of nerve endings in a smaller area = more fun.

[MattBaggins]

10. So what does it mean if you are in the Sir Mix-A-Lot camp?

Does sexual attraction always mean sexism?

[MattBaggins]

213. Do you have a cold?

[yellowcanine]

12. Thread is useless without pictures.

[yellowcanine]

13. It would be sexist not to do followup studies with women regarding male genitalia size.

[ismnotwasm]

157. Naw

A study on the sexual attraction of a well built male chest maybe. Genitalia is a whole different ball game.

[Macoy51]

159. That Would be a Long, Hard, Study to Do

Or maybe I am just making a big deal about a wee, little thing.




Macoy

[ismnotwasm]

173. LOL

[geek tragedy]

15. .

[Tien1985]

90. Scootch

I brought beer

[geek tragedy]

91. Well . . .

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Never ceases to amaze me how men think what they think about women's bodies is a topic of interest to anyone.

"Please, tell me what part of the female anatomy is your favorite? I'm dying to know"

[hootinholler]

16. WTF is benevolent sexism?

Sounds oxymoronic to me.

Personally, it's nipple length rather than breast size that does it for me.

[seabeyond]

19. benevolent sexism would be holding the door open, pulling out a chair, ect...

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Glick and Fiske have shown the negative consequences of attitudes that idealize women as pure, moral, pedestal-worthy objects of men's adoration, protection, and provision. People who endorse benevolent sexism feel positively toward women, but only when women conform to highly traditional ideals about "how women should be."

Benevolent sexism motivates chivalrous acts that many women may welcome, such as a man's offer to lift heavy boxes or install the new computer. While the path to benevolent sexism may be paved with good intentions, it reinforces the assumption that men possess greater competence than women, whom benevolent sexists view as wonderful, but weak and fragile.

Cross-national comparisons show that hostile and benevolent sexism go hand-in-hand (that is, nations that endorse hostile sexism also endorse benevolent sexism). The beliefs work together because benevolent sexism "rewards" women when they fulfill traditional roles whereas hostile sexism punishes women who do not toe the line, thereby working together to maintain traditional relations. In other words, act sweet and they'll pat you on the head; assert yourself and they'll put you in your place.

Numerous studies by various researchers document benevolent sexism's insidious effects. For example, when led to expect benevolently sexist help in a masculine workplace, women became unsure of themselves, got distracted, and consequently performed poorly.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111004121314.htm

[Upton]

23. Holding a door open for a woman is now sexist?

That's strange. I still do that..and all I get are friendly smiles and a thank you.

[seabeyond]

26. i hold the door open for others, others hold the door for me, and yes, lots of friendly exchange

and i perfectly understand your intent to be disruptive. not playing your stupid ass game.

[Upton]

30. Uh...

It's your position that showing simple common courteousy to a woman is a form of sexism...and when asked about it, you have little in the way of a reply other than to accuse me of playing games. Nice answer..

[seabeyond]

32. uh... hoot asked what benevolent seixsm is. i gave him example and difinition. as i said,

playing a stupid ass game.

[ronnie624]

55. If you hold a door open for a woman because she is a woman and for no other reason,

then the underlying, culturally induced assumption, is that she is too weak and helpless to do it herself. That is most certainly a subtle form of sexism.

[Orrex]

88. Maybe the guy should hold the door shut and see if she can open it?

Me, I hold the door for whoever happens to be behind me.

Except Frank from accounting. He's an asshole.

[Dorian Gray]

113. Ha

I hate that guy too!

[RiffRandell]

183. Lol! n/t

[Marr]

92. Huh. I never would've interpreted it that way.

It's just something you do as a social convention, like taking your hat off when you enter a room.

[EOTE]

102. Wow, what a friendly welcome!

As for the stupid ass games, are there any other types you play? I'm sure the people you play games with are aching for some logic and rationality, but I'm guessing you won't accommodate them. Hostile and irrational is no way to go through life.

[Major Nikon]

33. If you hold the door open for everyone, no

If you believe you are a knight in shining armor rushing to the defense of a helpless female, then yes it's benevolent sexism regardless of whether you get thanked or not.

As we seem to have a lot of knights here on DU, this appears to be one of the most common forms of sexism seen here.

[polly7]

35. Everyone I see

normally holds the door open for everyone else, man or woman. I actually don't even know people who see females as helpless anymore. Simple common courtesy is often misconstrued, imho.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

125. Seems that way.

Amazing how petty this discussion is getting.

[Upton]

37. Sorry Major..

I was brought up that way. I open doors for women, offer to help them with heavy loads and so on..I don't consider it sexism, and I likely never will.

Now, I do open doors for older men...does that allow me a get out of sexist jail free card?

[Major Nikon]

45. I'm not being critical

Just explaining what the term means. Women can also be or support benevolent sexism towards women and often are.

[treestar]

74. Why not use the standard

of frailty? Old men may need help. Young women may not. If a woman is carrying something she looks strong enough to carry, let her do it.

[CreekDog]

190. I hold doors open for women, but I don't consider it sexist

because I hold doors open for men as well.

don't you?

[snooper2]

39. I've helped women change tires before, but never a man..

that's sexist as well?

[unblock]

43. if you helped a woman who seemed to have things well in hand, or passed by a man who didn't,

then yes, it's sexist.

i like their term "benevolent sexism" because i think it gets at both aspects of it -- it's intended as kindness, and in the moment it no doubt *is* kind and helpful. but it nevertheless treats women differently, and there may be longer-term problems with that.

[Major Nikon]

54. What you should have done...

is pull over and explain to them that you would be glad to help, but you don't want to perpetuate the great evil that is "the patriarchy" by demonstrating women are either incapable or unwilling to change their own tire and need a man to do it for them. I'm sure once they understand your reasoning they will thank you.

[Comrade Grumpy]

116. Heh.

[awoke_in_2003]

230. ...

[RobinA]

111. Good Question

I'm a woman who knows how to change a tire but would rather let a man do it. That probably makes me sexist, but it's just so much EASIER for him.

[MattBaggins]

127. Yes

If you pass by guys but stop to help women you are showing sexism.

If you have simply never encountered a man changing his tire than no.

[CreekDog]

191. I let a woman change a flat for me because I didn't want her to think I was sexist

[HappyMe]

49. I think that too many times

common courtesy gets mistaken for sexism. I open doors for people, they open doors for me.

My husband opens the door for me, and carries the heavy grocery bags into our apartment. I don't see any reason for me to struggle with a heavy load to prove a point.

This is just the kind of thing that keeps me away from feminism. I would have thought women have bigger fish to fry than worrying over doors and heavy loads.

[Raine1967]

83. Common courtesy -- exactly.

It would appear that when my husband opens a car door for me I'm supposed to think he's being sexist? I can't wrap my head around that idea. I agree with you.

[MattBaggins]

132. And there in lies the crux of benevolent sexism

If a woman and a man work the same job and they have a boss who always opens doors for employees and even will come over to help people versus a boss who only does it for the women and instead plays the friendly fist bumps and frat boy antics with the guys. When it comes time for a promotion how do you think that woman will feel about her chances?

In this very thread we have someone lamenting the old notion of "women and children first" not even realizing that this is the very problem people have with the benevolent sexism. What about the idea that the Captain should go down with their ship? What if the Captain is a woman? What about female crew members? Do they go first or help passengers? Should female first responders let people die as they run off to find a man to save them?

People who stop to help women change tires but not men are not evil, but they are the type who will give their male employees 8% raises and their female employees 3% raises and never even realize what they have done.

It is he fact that this form of sexism is rooted in an old school concept that women are "delicate" and need men to help them that is the problem. Think about that saying "women and children first". Why are women lumped in with the children? The reason is sexist. Women like children are incapable of taking care of themselves is what that saying means.

[bettyellen]

143. very well said- it's an underlying reason why we STILL have "bigger fish to fry" and earn less.

[MattBaggins]

145. People who use snark to dismiss this concept are the same people

who will nod in sage agreement at the idea of Institutionalized Racism. They don't see the comparison between the two problems.

[galileoreloaded]

148. Anecdotally, the earn less meme grows stale

last org, with 900 employees split 60%M and 40%F, and the females made 3% more by job.

Anecdotal, but it's rapidly equalizing which is good.

Yes I had full access to companywide comp.

[bettyellen]

153. not "stale" when the average is like 70-75%, and it's much worse at some

types of businesses- and better in higher education and some other fields too.

you'd not easily give up 30% of your paycheck, so don't expect anyone else to be happy to.

[galileoreloaded]

160. Er, poor reframe.

Nobody is "giving up" a percentage of a check. They never made it to have it taken away. Two distinct items.

Fortunately, for the 300-400 women I spoke of, neither the perception nor your interesting derivation were true. Good for them right?

I think it's great.

[bettyellen]

164. when the average difference is significant to the tune of 30%, your anecdote is meaningless.

And your 300-400 women are just skewing the average with their good fortune. There are lots of women making 50-60% of what men do. Asking you to consider how a pay cut would feel is asking you to have empathy- your refusal while clinging to stats from one company says it all. They got theirs, so who cares about larger society?

Message *of not giving a shit and finding a lousy excuse for that* received.

[galileoreloaded]

184. I do give a shit, but I have never witnessed nor met anyone with that experience

I don't see any evidence of that in 2013. Doesn't mean it isn't there, just that I don't see it as a part of corporate America.

[bettyellen]

188. you know everyone woman you know's salaries and what the men who have the same job make?

No. The truth is we are both surrounded by women who are getting short changed every day. The stats could not be what they are otherwise. I'm not sure why you think seeing the payroll of one company negates the reality- borne out in surveys for the last 40 years- for the rest of the country.

Or why you'd want to paint 30% as no big deal in our current economic climate. It would be to you, if you knew your work was undervalued, no doubt. And it is, even more so for those in non corporate positions.

[tblue37]

241. About that heavy bag thing--

Since men have approximately 70% greater upper body strength than women, I think that in most cases it is a good thing when a man offers to carry something heavy for a woman, simply because he is obviously structured to handle heavier things. But of course if a smaller or weaker man is carrying something too large or too heavy for his size and strength, then those kind men with the size and strength should be equally willing to help out.

But when what the woman is carrying is clearly not heavier than she is comfortable carrying, then insisting on taking it from her certainly is sexist; it is a form of infantilization. I am older and use a cane now, so I am always glad when my much younger students--male or female--offer to help me carry my bag full of papers and books.

As it happens, though, the young women almost never offer to help me out that way, while the young men almost always do. Their training might well have been sexist (to help the "helpless" female), but when they offer to help me, I am always grateful. They clearly mean no harm, and I actually don't see them doing the same thing for healthy young women, so I do believe that it is my age and physical limitations that they are responding to, not the sexist assumption that women must be weak and helpless.

[lumberjack_jeff]

67. +100 nt

[CreekDog]

192. oh, you're here

what a, um, surprise.

[smirkymonkey]

232. I am female and I hold the door open for both sexes.

I appreciate when it is done for me, whether by a man or a woman. To me it is just common courtesy.

[unblock]

40. any time you treat women differently is "sexist" in the denotational sense.

if you open doors for other people, without regard to gender, then there's no sexism.

if you open doors disproportionately more often for women than men, then technically, it is indeed sexism.

whether or not and to what extent this type of sexism is bad (the connotation of the term "sexism&quot is a the part that i would guess you're objecting to.

the o.p. did make a distinction between "benevolent sexism" and other types of sexism. i would think that benevolent sexism would be less damaging and take longer to have a negative effect than less-benevolent sexism, but it's still sexism.

[EOTE]

104. I see, so I'm sexist for only dating with women.

And even worse, only having sex with women. There is a tremendous amount of idiocy on display in this thread.

[unblock]

115. yes, that is sexist. the question is, what are the ramifications of that kind of sexism.

and are those ramifications good or bad.

that's the question. hyperventilating about which term applies is the silly part.

[EOTE]

117. So, calling every single heterosexual male a sexist is a great way to advance the dialog.

I guess heterosexual females are sexist under your definition as well. That you and so many others here don't see the incredible idiocy in comments like these shows how incredibly out of touch you've become. Society will continue to advance in spite of the utter ignorance and stupidity on display here.

[unblock]

118. wow you have a real hang-up about word usage. feel free to come up with a better term.

the o.p. made reference to the term "benevolent sexism". if that term winds you up so much, feel free to come up with your own term and use that instead.

and if society is going to advance, it's won't be because you toss out words like idiocy, ignorance, and stupidity when you object to others' nomenclature.

[EOTE]

122. And accusing a great majority of the population of being sexist is a great way to advance.

Frankly, no one benefits by failing to point out such idiocy. As for the better term, I think "decent" works quite well. And yes, I definitely have a "hang-up about word usage". I think words mean things. Silly me.

[unblock]

126. by using the word "accusing" you're insisting that all uses of the term "sexism" are negative.

that's where the debate should be.

the FACT is -- not an accusation, but an objective, non-judgemental FACT -- is that, by definition, all discrimination on the basis of sex is sexism of one form or another. that includes sexual preference on the basis of sex, be it heterosexual or homosexual.

the relevant QUESTION is, which forms of sexism are highly objectionable which ones are mildly objectionable, which ones are not objectionable at all. for instance, i think we can agree that discrimination on the basis of sex in determining one's sexual partner is not objectionable at all. that doesn't mean it's not a form of sexism, it's just not an objectionable form of sexism.

the only problem here is that you're unwilling to separate the negative connotations of the highly objectionable forms of sexism from the word itself, and therefore use a term like "benevolent sexism", which has different connotations. and perhaps we can come up with a term such as "mating sexism" to describe sex discrimination used in choosing a mate, which would have further different connotations.

[EOTE]

131. That's the way that 99% of the population thinks.

And muddying the waters by suggesting that some sexism is good really goes quite a way toward ensuring there will never be gender equality. All you're doing is ensuring more people will say "thanks" when accused of being a sexist. It's really an incredibly stupid argument. Again, only bad things can happen from calling 90+ percent of the population sexist. You say that I have a hang up pertaining to words. That may be the case, but I think it's far, far better than working toward making words meaningless, which is exactly what you're doing when you try to suggest that 90+% of the population is sexist.

[unblock]

135. this is an academic study and academic study very often uses terminology different from the public

and in any event attached far more nuanced or technical meanings to terms, even of those terms double as commonly used words.

if you want to overly commonly understood meanings onto academic studies, i'm quite certain you can find a whole lot of academia to object to.

[EOTE]

138. Although I have issues with the study, this is not one of them.

My issue is with your very skewed view of one of the terms used in the study. And saying that because a term is used in an academic study means that it's thoroughly defined is laughable. There is ZERO in this study that suggests that heterosexual pairing is sexist behavior. Zero. That little gem strictly came from your head. You don't get to insult science by pretending to be a scientist.

[unblock]

158. sexism is discimination on the basis of sex. look it up.

it is certainly most commonly used as discrimination against women, or in the reinforcement of social roles on the basis of sex.

however, strictly speaking, it is discrimination on the basis of sex, period. it doesn't have to be bad or controversial for it to fit the definition of sexism.

technically, excluding from consideration an entire sex for purposes of choosing a life partner fits the definition of sexism. no one really calls it that because no one really has a problem with it, but yes, technically it fits the definition.



and "that little gem" that "came strictly from your head" first appeared in post #104, authored by, um, you. i wasn't talking about heterosexual pairing at all, and i never said the study did either. you were the one who brought it up.

so, whatever, to my mind it's one of those rare forms of what's technically sexism, but no one has a problem with it; to your mind it's not sexism at all. doesn't it really matter what we call it? we both agree that we can have a decent society without forcing everyone to be either bisexual or asexual, right?

it would be more interesting to discuss "benevolent sexism" anyway....

[EOTE]

162. Sexual attraction and sex is general is NOT discrimination.

I was being sarcastic, hoping that others in this thread would see the idiocy of such a broad definition of "sexism". You agreed with that, apparently not recognizing that I was being sarcastic. I may have been the one to bring it up, but you're the one who actually agreed and said it was sexism.

[unblock]

165. apparently you or i have the same disagreement regarding the word "discrimination"

fortunately here, there are less charged uses of the term, for instance, one can have a discriminating palate. again, there's no negative connotation regarding discrimination in choosing one's meals.

[EOTE]

172. You can continue to not believe the currently accepted definitions of these terms...

but you need to know that you are suggesting that sexism is not necessarily a bad thing. You may think that simply provides nuance to a commonly used term, but what you're suggesting is that good people can not simply come together in the name of eliminating sexism. Instead saying that we need to eliminate persistent, malevolent sexism, or other such nonsense. Sexism in the common parlance is bad. It's silly and destructive to suggest that there are good and bad forms of sexism.

[unblock]

175. context matters.

discrimination on the basis of height, for instance, is perfectly reasonable when talking about roller coasters (you must be "this tall" to ride!) and other safety considerations, but perfectly rotten in the context of many employment situations.

so i don't have a problem with the idea that we can say sexism should be confined to the selection of one's life partner. i don't see any benefit from insisting that selection of life partner is exempted from the term, freeing us up to say we should eliminate sexism entirely. six of one, half dozen of the other.

and in any event, the point of the term "benevolent sexism" was to carve out a subset within the broader set of actions and attitudes which are "sexism". i'm not sure much changes is they had used a term like "well-intentioned discrimination on the basis of sex" or "disproportionately favorable treatment of women".

[BainsBane]

199. It's not sexism

Nor more than being gay is sexist. It's human biology.

[gollygee]

142. Your personal attractions are not sexist

they are just personal attractions. You are not attracted to all women, I'm guessing. You find some people attractive, and because you are a heterosexual man those people are women. That isn't the same as treating all women differently because you believe they are less capable, or as far as benevolent sexism goes, because you believe women should be treated differently because they're women and that's "what a gentleman does."

[EOTE]

151. Some on this thread HAVE suggested that being heterosexual is sexist.

THAT is what I was responding to and what I think is idiotic.

[gollygee]

197. I agree with you on that. n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

65. If you do it longer or more often than you would for me, then yes.

When I was younger, I started observing the reactions when I held the door (prevented it from swinging back into their faces, not "hold the door" NYC doorman style). Initially, guys would always say "thanks". Kids and women under 40 never would. Older women were about evenly split.

Now that I'm older I find that older and younger women are more likely to than they used to be, but it is still atypical.

[CreekDog]

193. I hold the door for just about everyone and most people hold it for me

and i couldn't for a moment tell you the demographics of who does and who doesn't.

but you can.

[lumberjack_jeff]

200. I'm an observer of human nature.

Chapters 13 thru 15 (tentatively titled "trolling", "stalking" and "self-loathing&quot of my upcoming book are dedicated to you.

[CreekDog]

202. ah, calling me the troll and a stalker in the same post (and self-loathing...)

is that like trying to draw a foul on a 3-point attempt?

[lumberjack_jeff]

203. In fairness...

... you also get notable mention in chapter 23, "bad metaphors".

[Skip Intro]

216. .

[LittleBlue]

134. Same. When I pull out a chair for a woman or hold the door they seem pleased.

You can tell they like it by the involuntary smile.


Whoever doesn't like it can tell me to go away, I'll let them carry their own loads and open their own doors. Do I treat women differently in this way? Yes, and I won't apologize. It's a free country.

[one_voice]

71. I have never heard of this...

wow, this is very interesting.

I have to admit, I'm confused. I've read the comments to this. If you only do it for a woman and not a man that makes it sexist etc.

What if you do both? For example, I helped my husband build our deck. He's all for women are equal to men I help do heavy lifting. He's as far from a sexist as you can get. BUT he absolutely will go out of his way to help a lady with a door, a grocery bag etc. That's just how he is.

All the women he works with that are older than him he address with Ms. in front of their first name even those that report to him, example: Ms. Ruth.

He still opens the car door for me, pulls out a chair for me, waits for me to sit down, etc. But, I will help move a couch, put up a fence etc.

I don't always see the sexism.

[Sissyk]

93. Yep!

My husband will always, always stop to help a woman on the side of the road where he would possibly keep driving on by if it was a man. I've heard him say over and over again, "If that was my mother, I want to think some nice man like me would stop to help her".

He always holds the door for me, carries in the groceries, etc. But, I also help him out if he is working on a project at home or just needs my help unloading building supplies, etc.

What I want to know is: Do some women stop a man that is going to hold the door for them and say, "Wait, do you open doors for men also? Or, are you a sexist that just opens doors for women?" Or, do they just go on through and say thanks? lol!!

Where I live, it is an every day occurrence. We say "THanks" and go on about our business and so does the man.

[seabeyond]

196. no. one does not always see sexism. but, we can understand the behavior and see how it can be

harmful.

i taught my boys to hold door open, and we all do, for all people. i taught my boys to pull out chair. especially for a dress, makes it much easier to sit. but...

a tech worker. have to crawl under desks plugging in stuff. the man always comes to the womans rescue and crawls on the floor cause she is a lady. the nice thing to do. when it comes to a promotion he will see her as not doing her job. he will see him as jumping in to help fellow employees, on the ball.

he is doing it to be nice. it still effects her job.

here is a good explanation of it. i have heard the complaint from men, on this forum, in the past. and i agree with them. this would be benevolent sexism. yet, all of a sudden now, the men are opposed to agreeing with "them feminists"

Benevolent sexism is a part of a model of sexism developed by Peter Glick and Susan Fiske in 1996. Benevolent sexism, as opposed to hostile sexism, often seems to be a favorable view towards females, despite being grounded in gender stereotypes. For example, the beliefs that women are more nurturing, the men should always pay for a date, and that women should be rescued first from a sinking ship are all indicative of benevolent sexism. Benevolent sexism has three sources: protective paternalism (wanting to protect women), complementary gender differentiation (viewing women as different and better), and heterosexual intimacy (worshiping women).

A problem can arise when women are opposed to hostile sexism but not benevolent sexism, such as demanding equal pay for equal work but also believing a man should open the door for a woman. Men often view this as a double standard.

Glick and Fiske found that both types of sexism can, and generally do, coexist. Men who exhibit signs of benevolent sexism also tend to exhibit signs of hostile sexism. This is part of the reason that benevolent sexism may not be as harmless as it seems: it is clearly linked to the more injurious hostile sexism. This may help explain why sexism is still so prevalent in our society. Since the two are related, we can't eliminate the one without the other. Allowing benevolent sexism to remain may be forcing hostile sexism to stay, too.

i agree, it is a double standard. i will also say, when feminist discuss "hostile" sexism many of the men throw the "benevolent" sexism in our face about us being hypocrites.

[hootinholler]

76. Thanks!

I almost didn't open your reply because you have 'nt' in the subject.

Great food for thought there in your citation.

[seabeyond]

195. ya. i saw that i had the nt, even though i had the definition. geeeez, did you start something.

or i did, lol, using the easy, "hold the door open" stuff. no one bothered to read the definition.

ah well.

bad you. gonna blame you, lol

[hootinholler]

208. Just doing my part

I generally avoid any sort of sexism flap whatever. Makes me wonder what karmic doo-doo I stepped in lately.



I agree it got blown waaay out of proportion when the poutrageous OP went up.

:sigh:

[Blue4Texas]

204. When not as gentleman

But better than

[lumberjack_jeff]

58. Benevolent sexism is actually a fascinating concept.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111004121314.htm

Benevolent sexism motivates chivalrous acts that many women may welcome, such as a man's offer to lift heavy boxes or install the new computer. While the path to benevolent sexism may be paved with good intentions, it reinforces the assumption that men possess greater competence than women, whom benevolent sexists view as wonderful, but weak and fragile.

My experience is that many men who consider themselves feminists are better described as benevolent sexists.

[seabeyond]

60. i think it is interesting also. and the reaction is a knee jerk snark without much thinking going

on.

whether a person continues with perceiving women as incapable, or merely the gentlemanly thing to do, understanding the concept is interesting.

[lumberjack_jeff]

66. "gentlemanly thing to do"

I think a better word would be conscientious. I try to be actively conscientious, but "gentleman" is inextricably wadded up with too many sexist norms.

If I told you to "be a lady", I suspect you'd feel similarly to how I feel when told to "be a gentleman".

[seabeyond]

68. that would be the point lumber. be it "gentlemen" or "lady". it is behaviors taught

to get along in a "civil" society, lol.

the term gentlemanly behavior is exactly what i am talking about.

now.... conscientious behavior to me would be being helpful to anyone i saw that may need help.

[CreekDog]

194. if you hold a door but oppose equal pay legislation, you're no gentleman

just saying.

[EOTE]

106. Knee jerk snark?

Like saying someone is playing a 'stupid ass game' for asking a benign question? I've seen plenty of that kind of snark here. And my sides are still aching over your comment on other people's thinking abilities.

[Bonobo]

220. Yes, lots of "White Knights" run to the defense of women here on DU.

They call themselves "feminists" or "allies" but what they are really demonstrating is a sexist belief that women need protecting.

Their game is to disparage other men in an attempt to ingratiate themselves to women, to appear to be "the nice guy".

[Taverner]

20. I never met a pair of boobs I didn't like

[RandiFan1290]

29. Really?

[sir pball]

105. The goggles do nothing!

You magnificent bastard

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

128. Yikes

[jberryhill]

103. What about this pair

[Taverner]

24. My hypothesis is that that most sexist men have the most questions about their sexuality

So they take it out on others...and they want a woman with big breasts because they think that's what they are supposed to like

[Bicoastal]

44. Sexists like big boobs. But that doesn't mean men who like 'em

are necessarily sexist.

[Apophis]

61. I'm attracted to larger breasts, yes, but I'm not sexist.

There's nothing wrong with attraction. But large breasts aren't the only thing I like. I also love intelligence, compassion, nerdiness, someone I can talk to, liberal.

Many women love men with large pecs or tall men. Doesn't make them sexist.

[The2ndWheel]

25. We have too much time on our hands

If you're into the big ones, you're at least sort of sexist. If you like the smaller breasts, you're probably a little weird too. If you like medium size...you're probably still a pig, because eyes up here!

[Blue_Tires]

27. I'm not sexist and I prefer bigger...

[unblock]

31. there's an obvious problem with this study...

they show ***3d models*** of women and ask subjects to rate attractiveness **based on image** alone.

so the those administering the test are reducing women to mere objects, then asking subjects some questions, essentially, "if you were to treat a woman as an object and completely ignore her personality, soul, etc., then which object would you find most attractive?"

personally, while i have an instinctive attractiveness to women in general, and yes, breasts are part of that, whatever component of attractiveness breast size has is quickly dwarfed by other factors the minute a woman expresses a personality -- kindness, intelligence, humor, liberalism, etc.

[redqueen]

56. This.

Excellent insight.

[Sissyk]

75. Wow!

personally, while i have an instinctive attractiveness to women in general, and yes, breasts are part of that, whatever component of attractiveness breast size has is quickly dwarfed by other factors the minute a woman expresses a personality -- kindness, intelligence, humor, liberalism, etc.

Excellent!

[stevenleser]

79. Measuring objectification was part of the point of the study. See my link downthread

I didn't know about this publication before. If interested, you should take a look through the other articles they do. There are some very interesting topics there about all kinds of human sexuality.

[Whisp]

82. This OP was not made to learn anything new about human sexuality.

that is cover in order to talk about women and breasts in an objectifying way. You can see that clearly by some of the immature yuk yuks

[sufrommich]

84. So much this. nt

[stevenleser]

85. Possibly. That is very unfortunate if true. My instinct was to track down the source and

see if it had anything that could be asserted as validity. I guess that is just the wonk in me.

[lumberjack_jeff]

96. I suspect the OP was posted to solicit discussion.

Just a guess.

[BainsBane]

181. because the key issue of our day

is the breast size preferred by men on DU.
This is real high brow stuff.

[lumberjack_jeff]

182. Whatever. It morphed into a good discussion about benevolent sexism.

Women can't experience benevolent sexism, without men simultaneously experiencing injurious sexism.

[Starry Messenger]

144. Yes.

It's like middle school here anymore.

[marions ghost]

36. Ha ha and water is wet

& the Pope is more or less Catholic.

May make life harder for big breasted women. I knew one who tried hard to minimize because of the problem.
She was very embarrassed by all the extra attention.

But this is Murka--Bigger is Better!

[Katashi_itto]

38. Guess I'm not Sexist then, here's the owner of my favorite pair of breasts.

Although now I wonder if this comment is sexist....

[Dpm12]

41. I just want to know

how a man being sexually attracted to women is sexist?

Is it sexist when a woman is attracted to a guy?

[seabeyond]

47. seriously? that is how you interpreted? or did you not read?

they presented like, regarding size. then they presented sexist mentality and judged.

they did not ask, you like, you are sexist.

[marions ghost]

53. The study is about a body type preference

and a correlation of that preference with sexist traits (as defined by other psychological studies).

It does not say that liking womens' anatomical features makes you sexist.

(I think most men know very well if they are sexist or not).

[Bicoastal]

42. Man, it's getting so you can't even sexualize people you SLEEP with.

I don't fixate on womens' breasts during the day, but I sure do like the ones I go home to at night.

And yeah--they're large. She likes 'em fine; so do I. So sue us.

[Apophis]

46. How is sexual attraction sexist?

I can understand that only liking women for their large breasts is sexist, but initial attraction isn't sexist.

I'm attracted to large breasts. Does that make me sexist?

[The2ndWheel]

140. If you open a door for a woman because she's a woman, that's sexist

So if you're attracted to a woman because she's a woman, would that then also be sexist?

[Ian David]

48. What does it mean if you don't care about breast size, but have a fetish for auxiliary nipples?

I'm asking for a friend.

[bemildred]

50. Empty babble.

You like what you like. It's your right.

And it should say "sexist, white, heterosexual men are more likely to prefer big tits", which is pretty obvious, to the point when I see men who surround themselves with big-titted women, I assume that is what they like, the trophy babe.

Same considerations apply to women who need "trophy men".

But seriously, this is just crap, since it is also obvious that our preferrences are indoctrinated into us by whichever society we are raised and live in. The emphasis on big tits for example, has much to do with the rise of porn, TV, and other media with a constant need to grab our attention visually without messing up your "buying mood". Hence the prevalence of hyper-stimulating images 24x7 on TV for example, and to do that they need to be OBVIOUS.

[BainsBane]

52. How about just stop telling us what we're supposed to look like?

Evidently, based on this thread, my breasts are a waste, abnormal, and a target for sexist men. We are born in different shapes and sizes. Some of us have large breasts and some small. Regardless, we are ALL human beings, and that involves sexuality, intelligence, compassion, and a whole host of other attributes. We are much more than our breast size.

[geek tragedy]

150. You mean you're not dying to hear

what men thing about women's bodies on a political discussion board?

What are you, some kind of feminist?

(this is sarcasm in case it gets alerted on, btw)

[BainsBane]

179. I'm unreasonable that way

So I'm told.

[BlueCaliDem]

57. Then my emancipated husband is an anomaly. He prefers bigger, um, breasts

but he's NO sexist. Not even a little bit.

I'm happy (and consider myself extremely lucky) that I've found that one special guy . . . 31 years ago.

[Sissyk]

77. +1

[BlueCaliDem]

154. I take it you agree?

I'll assume you know what I mean out of happy and fulfilling experience.

[Sissyk]

168. Yes, I do.

My husband loves me just as much, if not more, than he did 28 years ago. Same with my love for him. Nothing like a fulfilling relationship in every way. I wish everyone (everyone that wants it) could have the same.

At the same time, we are both human. He has always expressed his feelings in regards to female bodies, both famous and walking on the street. I do the same. On occasion, he or I will even point out a nice human form to the other. lol! We may be 50 and happily married, but we are not dead either.

[Whisp]

59. This is just like how women have to walk 'that gauntlet'...

where they can't be left alone - the guys whistle and taunt and crack jokes about our bodies and we can't do shit about it. This DU is now a safe haven for making us feel inferior and making us feel we don't have any right to fight back on serious issues, because then we get retaliated on by ridiculous stuff like this. We have to sit back and be judged on how acceptable and likable we are by our breasts, like cattle on a block.

You should be ashamed, but you aren't. You think this is fun, neat, and payback for perhaps a woman getting upset about other serious issues that you have no decent reply to. So you come up with this crap, like a 12 year old boy that doesn't know how to handle his emotions around 'girls' so he just lashes out at 'girl parts'.

[seabeyond]

62. really. lets start a thread on if we like small, medium or big size penis. tilt left? tilt right?

straight up? straight out?

thick, thin....

ect...

the worth of the man is in the size, shape and tilt of his penis.

[BainsBane]

64. misandry

It wouldn't last 10 minutes.

[Whisp]

70. what if our request of adding sexism and mysogyny to the TOS

was implemented.

Would this thread be seen a little differently than it is now - now where it's a playground yuk yuk to define a woman by the shape of her body parts?

I guess we won't know, because just two fucking little words are too much to ask.

[lumberjack_jeff]

73. "No sexism or misogyny" is analagous to "No fruit or apples"

If you ban the former, you have already banned the latter.

Stipulating "apples" introduces ambiguity when someone brings oranges to the party.

Why ask for two words when you only need one?

[bettyellen]

147. I think there's a distinction- sexism can be without intended malice, misogyny not so much.

I don't think there;s any reason not to list both, along with misandry.
It's the right thing to do, not sure why the mods have repeatedly blown off this request when they say they agree with the concept.

[lumberjack_jeff]

163. I fully agree that "the hatred or mistrust of (women/men)" should be prohibited.

The challenge is one of definitions. The dictionary definition of misogyny is not the one in common use here, while the dictionary definition of misandry is frequently defended as sensible progressive behavior.

[bettyellen]

167. Agree, but I see such a wide spectrum of attitudes and behaviors here... we could spend all day

cataloging them, LOL. Not even going to try and delve into that.
Have a good weekend, Jeff.

[lumberjack_jeff]

169. You too.

I've got to pretty much work through the weekend though.

[bettyellen]

170. Yup, gotta a load of work to get to now. No TGIF for us I guess.

[geek tragedy]

152. Pretty clearly "respecting women" is not part of the TOS and never will be.

So long as one avoids the c-bomb and overt expressions of male supremacy, there's carte blanche to create a locker room environment here.

I'm sure a discussion of love handles and male impotence would be greated with similar enthusiasm in certain quarters. Or maybe it would be called misandry.

Nope, the latter.

[Sissyk]

98. I'm in!

You start and I'll follow. lol!

[lumberjack_jeff]

100. I don't think this thread is about a womans' worth relative to breast size.

A better objection to this OP is that it conflates men's ethical worth with a tenuous correlation to their aesthetic sense.

The study was designed to get the results they found.

[LittleBlue]

123. Go right ahead

If you like big penis, why pretend otherwise?

How would that even be different than preferring a man for his other physical traits? I can understand why women would like a big penis, same as a nice smile or eyes.

[Whisp]

137. to be fair then, men would have to wear a penis bra

just like women can't really hide their breasts (much) men should show their stuff as well. Of course it has to be mandatory, there will be no choice.

I propose a small bag like addition to their trousers, where the penis is inserted and hangs outside the fly so better judgements can be made about their sizes and how worthy that man is of his manlihood.

[LittleBlue]

139. I think pants do fine for us

unless you're Mandingo or someone like that, maybe he needs extra room in the front

(If you don't want to wear a bra, I won't complain )

[kwassa]

201. Penis bra? How unmanly. It is properly called a codpiece, and here is an example.

[MADem]

189. If you'd like to do that, there is plenty of material on the net-here's a study to get you started:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6874/1/1

Abstract

Background
Does the size of the male penis, in terms of length or width, make a difference in female sexual satisfaction?

Method
To study the effect of penis width vs. length on female sexual satisfaction, 50 sexually active female undergraduate students were asked which felt better, i. e., was penis width or length more important for their sexual satisfaction.

Results
None reported they did not know, or that width and length were equally satisfying. A large majority, 45 of 50, reported width was more important (p < .001).

Conclusion
Implications are discussed, including the fact that the data seem to contradict Masters and Johnson about penis size having no physiological effect on female sexual satisfaction.

[BainsBane]

63. +1

[PasadenaTrudy]

129. I'm sick of this too...

I joined pretty recently, hoping for some "enlightened" conversation. Seems like just another frat house. I may be moving on soon!

[stevenleser]

72. Note to all, this comes from a peer reviewed study. Here is the link

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-013-0081-5

[stevenleser]

81. And here is an easy way to see and search all of the articles from this publication

http://link.springer.com/search?sortOrder=newestFirst&facet-content-type=Article&facet-journal-id=10508

[Coyotl]

80. Sexist men prefer bigger boobs on 3-D models

Why not show them women? Throw this study in the trash.

[tkmorris]

114. Because then you cannot isolate the criteria you are testing for

If you use images of actual women you are no longer able to determine whether the subjects are responding to breast size or some other aspect of the female's appearance.

[Evoman]

174. It's called a control. They are isolating one specific trait.

It's how a good study has to be done.

[Coyotl]

215. So they postulate that this is valid in the real world instead of desiging a real world test.

You see the difference, right?

[99Forever]

87. I'm sorry but...

[Poll_Blind]

89. And what about if they'd asked the men their favorite soda, instead?

"Diet Coke loving men prefer bigger boobs"

The correlation between the first thing (preference of breast size) and second thing (attitudes on some other issue) are not necessarily related. In fact, from what I read there was nothing which indicated a link between the two- which should be the lynchpin on a paper like this.

Otherwise it's no more "telling" than boob preference speciously correlated with soda preference.

PB

[bemildred]

95. +1. nt

[CosmicDustBunny]

94. I guess that means I'm not sexist (which I already knew), because I like B or A cups.

The study is not a shock to me. Most of the real "manly" assholes I've know want a DDs or overly-stuffed cantelopes, neither of which I find attractive. A close friend was a bit over a DD and her back was suffering because of it. She had them reduced to about a C cup and is way happier now.

I approve of implants for reconstructive surgery (self-image after going through the horrors of cancer in particular). I just don't like the overtly artificial look. I don't find it at all attractive and can't understand why so many men do. And those poor women are going to suffer later in life. I'm not sure if they know it, but those things have a life-expectancy and have to be replaced or removed after ten or twenty years depending on the kind. All it does is stretch out the skin in an unnatural way and down the road they'll be sorry.

Side note: Contrary to popular belief, a woman with an A cup is just as capable of nursing as a woman with a DD. There's a theory that the attraction to large breasts resulted from the idea that larger breasts held more milk. While perhaps that's how the attraction came to be, the premise on which it is based is false.

[polly7]

110. Your belief is true. Smaller breasted women can nurse perfectly well. We adapt.

I breastfed my son, and as a smaller/medium chested woman I'd occasionally reach almost Dolly Parton proportions in between feedings. Some really funny memories include heading down to the Scarth Street area in Regina waiting to eat lunch with my boyfriend who worked at SGI. Lots of the employees came out to sit in the sun and eat their lunch. I noticed I was starting to attract a few admirers, that was way back when wearing basically just a wrap scarf made do as a top, or the coolest thing I could find - it was sooooo hot that summer. I started to notice one man made a point of sitting across from me every day. When I had to stop nursing because I had to get back to work and was back to the normal me, I still got the friendliness from sharing benches and tables with these people for so long, but I could tell some were pretty confused as I'd never taken the baby with me - my landlady generously offered to watch him so I could get out. I certainly wasn't out to put on a show, but did get to experience what larger breasted women put up with day after day. and it did get tiring. But, interesting reactions! Sorry if TMI.

[CosmicDustBunny]

112. Not at all TMI. My wife hit the Dolly Parton proportions too. I kept joking, "Can I get you preggo?"

She thought it was hillarious, but frankly she was always happy to get back to normal size (and so was I). What was really funny is when one of the kids would drain one side and pass out before getting to the other. She called it "Mutt and Jeff" syndrome, which meant I had to get my butt out of bed and run down to the kitchen for the breast pump and THEN stay awake until she was done so I could run it back downstairs, put it in the refrigerator, and wash the parts without names.

[Initech]

97. They really needed a study for this?

[struggle4progress]

101. It's just ordinary narcissism, cuz sexist men are bigger boobs

[edbermac]

107. Here's the pic of the 3D women from the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2293422/Why-sexist-men-likely-prefer-Kim-Keira-Misogynistic-attitudes-make-males-likely-prefer-big-breasts.html

"Sexist men are more likely to be attracted to Kim Kardashian than Keira Knightly, a new study reveals."

Well this certainly sounds like a legitimate psychological study if it involves Kim Kardashian.

[stevenleser]

146. I dont think the actual study used anyone's names. nt

[Humanist_Activist]

166. OK, now I see the flaw in the study, none of those models are attractive...

even when pressed, any response I would give wouldn't reflect true preferences, but rather cultural conditioning, so the correlation between "liking" big breasts and sexism makes sense when you have a personality more malleable to influence from sexist sources(other men, who of course ALL like big breasts, at least if you listen to them).

The problem is this, removing everything else, for example, personality, hip size, butt size, etc. isn't how sexual attractiveness works exclusively. Besides that, these models look lifeless and creepy, they need better 3D artists.

[tularetom]

109. I'm perfectly happy with the small boobs I have

I don't know why any man would want to have bigger boobs.

[Exultant Democracy]

119. My guess is that more sexist men also tend toward having larger boobs on themselves too.

On a serious note I am revolted by how uncivil this thread became. It has become clear to me that a small group of DU'rs have virtually declared war against this discussion board. Divide and conquer my friends, it is the oldest trick in the book. Finding a way to make your allies enemies does the right wings work for them.

[fitman]

120. I am a man who loves big boobs

But my wife when we first met had a-cups(on a good day-standing upside down wearing a push up bra lol) and I love her to death...15 years later I would not trade her for anything in the world. She is my best friend besides lover

Don't worry ladies ...boob size is definitely not a deal breaker for most men..

BTW My wife through age now has b-cups ..woo hoo.

[LittleBlue]

121. I like big boobs but

the most beautiful woman of all time (to me) was flat chested.




Big boobs can be nice (google Keeley Hazell). Though more often than not, it's the result of some horrific boob job.

More than anything, a woman's personality, kindness, or even just a good smile will trump boob size easily. Boobs are just one of the less important considerations.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

124. Hmmm

Pretty small sample size for a study. I'm skeptical of it either way.

One could argue I suppose that having large breasts would mean that the woman is more able to nurse her children and be a successful mother as a result.

Speaking personally it's the shape of a woman's breast rather than the size that I find attractive.

[Bok_Tukalo]

130. Sure, do a study on the boob men ... what about the Sir Mix-A-Lots among us?

<OPE>

[hughee99]

133. All the subjects in this study are white, heterosexual men from London,

which is a nice wide demographic.

[Bok_Tukalo]

136. The British Male?

That is a sexuality all its own.

[flamingdem]

141. Please expand upon this interesting statement

rule Britannia!

[dawg]

149. If the science is good in this study, it makes for interesting information.

Any conclusions we might draw from it would still be premature, but certainly it is thought provoking.

I have long suspected that some people view members of the opposite sex as "other" while the rest of us view them as, well ... just people. I don't know how much of this is in their nature and how much is learned behavior, but it makes for interesting speculation.

Lots of men and women have "types" they are attracted to. I've never really felt like I had a "type", but if someone did a scientific study of all the women I have been attracted to in my lifetime, I might be surprised at the commonalities. Or, then again, there might not be any trend in their physical characteristics. (Some of that would depend on how the criteria were set.)

I would really like to think that the things that attract me the most about a woman are the things that don't show up in a photograph.

[arely staircase]

155. big boobs are not attractive on men

sexist or otherwise

[benld74]

156. Years ago I heard this joke, and it is true to,,

Europeans believe the perfect woman's breast would be able to fill a champagne glass.

Americans believe the perfect woman's breast would be able to clog a toilet.

[NaturalHigh]

233. That gave me a chuckle.

Honestly, though, I didn't realize that there was that much difference of taste between the continents.

[Rex]

161. Er

ah, hum. You don't say.

[Vinnie From Indy]

171. Is there any data on what babies prefer?

Cheers!

[Evoman]

176. What about Vulvas? What does it say about a guy who likes gigantic vulvas?

Why do these studies always focus on breasts? We need more well researched vulval studies. (I just invented that word).

BTW on edit: I got an eyeful when I looked up Vulva on wikipedia. You expect some kind of black and white picture, or a drawn picture, or cartoon. Nuh uh....wikipedia is....um.....detailed....

[The Straight Story]

177. If you like big volvos that suck gas you hate the earth (nt)

[Evoman]

180. What? They pollute the Earth? Is there no justice in the universe.

Damn it....damn it to hell.

[hootinholler]

209. But! But, they keep *very* safe in comfort! n/t

[edbermac]

186. Or big bottoms?

[amuse bouche]

178. SHOCKER !!!

[sibelian]

185. I thought it said "sexiest men prefer bigger boobs".

I need glasses.

[nomorenomore08]

237. Nigel Tufnel? Is that you?

nt

[SwampG8r]

187. and so do non sexist men...whats the point?nt

[Gravitycollapse]

217. Non-sexist men would not establish physical preferences like breast size.

[SwampG8r]

229. given the animal nature of man

i find that hard to believe

[NaturalHigh]

231. You're kidding, right?

I think everyone, no matter how "enlightened" has a physical preference for looks, hair color, body type etc.

[DFW]

198. First and foremost

I always searched a woman's face to see if it fascinated me. If it did, I was interested. If not, it didn't matter what else there was.

Once I saw this face, I was lost forever, and have been captivated by it ever since:

[IMG][/IMG]

[XRubicon]

205. Side boob

[Initech]

207. Obvious conclusion is obvious.

[Warren DeMontague]

210. Oh, crap.

Of course, that means I was significantly less sexist when I was in High School, because my tastes changed.

[Rex]

236. Taste?

You change as you grow older? Concepts too?

[Warren DeMontague]

239. Hmmm. Good question.

Politically I had fairly well solidified to where I still am, by age 15.

Certain issues I take more seriously now, like health coverage. But I'm still basically on the same page.

But aesthetic appreciation? I guess that can change. I didn't like Thai Food when I was in High School, sure do now.

Music? Yeah, still pretty much on the same page there, too. I might like things with a bit more edge, even, now- plus I have more appreciation for technical mastery.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

214. Whenever I'm surveyed, it's about politics or shopping habits ...

... why do I never get picked for a T or A study?

It's not fair!



edit to add: Please don't alert on my answer. I'm drunk, and I forgot I'm not in Meta!

[Trascoli]

219. That is why women should keep their smaller boobs

if bigger boobs didn't exist, neither would sexist men. Stop with the silicone ladies, we hate it! Stop sexist men!

[BainsBane]

228. Because no one is actually grows large breasts

naturally.

[BootinUp]

226. I wonder if Dr. Timothy Leary had anything to do with this creation lol.

Also, were any of the sound effects from sampling fart noises?

[BootinUp]

235. making me watch that

was just uncalled for, lol.

[nomorenomore08]

238. Don't have a strong preference one way or the other.

Then again I don't tend to fixate on a particular body part. But to each their own.

[nwoow]

240. Sexist Men Love Bigger Breasts Says Study

Men’s attitudes toward women influence their thoughts about the ideal breast size, a new study has claimed.A study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior in February 2013 showed that men who preferred bustier women tended to be okay with more sexist attitudes.

The researchers interviewed 361 white, heterosexual men, ranging in age from 18 to 68. Each man was shown five different 3-D models of women, each with a different breast size, and then asked to record which “woman” he found most physically attractive.

The pictures were all identical except for the figures’ breast sizes. The researchers noted that eye-tracking studies have shown that when presented with a front-facing image of a woman, most men will spend more time looking at the breasts and upper body than any other part.

http://www.nwoow.com/health/sexist-men-love-bigger-breasts-says-study-36095/