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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/15/this-just-in-gop-won-t-negotiate.htmlThis Just In: GOP Won't Negotiate
by Michael Tomasky Mar 15, 2013 9:03 AM EDT
It seems worth reiterating this morning that there is no basis on which Obama can make a deal with Republicans. Greg Sargent took note of a vote in the Senate yesterday that was telling. This was on an amendment designed to ensure that corporations could not use loopholes to avoid entirely the payment of income taxes. Note that word "entirely."
Every Republican on the Budget Committee voted no.
Sargent:
When Republicans say Obama needs to show "leadership," what they mean is that he ought to just embrace the Ryan budget. They really won't accept anything else. Oh, they might accept $4.4 trillion in cuts over 10 years instead of Ryan's $4.65 trillion, but that's about all the compromise they're up for. We need to remind ourselves of this fact on a regular basis and say it often. There is nothing Obama can do to please them except drop entirely his demand for revenue, which would be indefensible on political and policy grounds.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)spanone
(135,830 posts)malaise
(268,968 posts)They refuse to allow Obama to govern - effin' sabotage.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)IMHO, is WHY we are hearing President Obama (and Nancy Pelosi) saying, "We are willing to deal on entitlements, if/when the gop deals on new revenue."
They came to the unmoving conclusion months ago. This is all about 2014 ... yes, X-dimensional Chess ... appearing to be willing to go against his base (as evidenced by the wails and cries from the Left), while giving all appearences of reaching out to the gop (who are proving are just able to deal).
I'm loving it, as it puts the gop in a real box ... if they even appear to deal, they will be primaried; which will result in either an unelectable general election gop candidate (because there still remains a few sane gopers and right-leaning independents) or, if the incumbant survives the challenge, disaffected/unmotivated gop electorate (when the "real conservatives" stay at home, in protest).
The only downside is having to watch the angst of Democrats, who for whatever reason seem to REALLY want President Obama to carry through on their worst fears.
Rest assured folks ... he won't; it won't get to there because the gop won't move on new revenue.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)The GOP is making the same type of calculus. That they're holding fast on revenue because they don't really believe that the Democrats will follow through on their stated willingness to cut earned benefits.
babylonsister
(171,059 posts)There's no answer to this. Something's gotta give...
Phlem
(6,323 posts)But what's left for us to give?
We've been pillaged and it seems to be getting worse.
-p
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But so far, after 4 years I am still waiting for him to do something meaningful....Obamacare was not one of them...did not change a thing, we still have a corupt for profit health care system and still millions that can't afford it...and that is his major accomplishment.
Can't you see why we may feel we are being punked yet again?
Especially sense his appointments went to Wall Street...
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Show some leadership. Betray the voters and then bow and scrape to us.
asjr
(10,479 posts)who voted for them should be ashamed of themselves. I still think they are being traitors.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)lexw
(804 posts)They want Ryan and the GOP to have credit for the currently improving economy.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)He started walking things back.
But he might have another shot in a few months, as Republicans increasingly pull away from the rotting corpse they've chained themselves to.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)FreeBC
(403 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
indepat
(20,899 posts)Republics' obstruction and budget agenda and thereby win the House and gain seats in the Senate in 2014. Sadly appeasement of the Republics on taxes and cutting social security and Medicare would serve, again in my opinion, to only turn away Dems from the polls in droves. This will be truly a watershed moment in our nation's history and BHO's actions on this front will clearly show where his politics lie on the political spectrum.