Steubenville Rape Trial Verdict (Guilty Verdict 1 year for Richards, 2 years for Mays)

[davidpdx]

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http://www.10tv.com/content/sections/video/breaking.html

If anyone finds an alternate please feel free to post it and I'll update my OP.

Edit: CNN has said they will cut when the verdict is read.

Edit 2: CBS covering the trial live now: http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-201_162-1950/cbs-news-live-video/?tag=custom

Edit 3: ABC http://abcnews.go.com/live

Edit 4: Verdict of delinquency, both are found guilty.

Edit 5: Judge for Richards is arguing against confinement.

Edit 6: Both defendants are asked by the judge if they want to say anything and apologize in court.

Edit 7: Parent's of both defendants are speaking. Richard's father identifies the victim's parent's name is court.

Edit 8: Judge talking about disposition and charges

Edit 9: Sentencing Richards: 1 year or up until 21 years old. Mays: 2 years consecutive or up until 21. Both defendants must have sex offender treatment, register as a sex offender, and stay away from the victim. The defendants must pay the court costs. Defendants are credited with time served.

I'm not exactly sure I've got the sentences right, it came out quick.

Edit 10: Corrected sentence. The release is up to the juvenile system whether they are released before they are 21. (last edit)

[MadrasT]

1. Thanks!

[davidpdx]

2. Bump

Court is now in session at 10:11 am EDT

[Glimmer of Hope]

3. Guilty! I hope the victim can find closure and get on with her life.

[MoonRiver]

6. The judge found them guilty?

Hope so!

[Glimmer of Hope]

8. Yes. Both were found guilty and now they are sobbing.

[MoonRiver]

11. Boo F'n Hoo

Once in a while justice prevails. Hope it happens to psycho Jodi.

[davidpdx]

15. Christ on a pogo stick are they balling

The judge announced the decision pretty much within 2 minutes of sitting down. I figured there would be some last minute procedural things.

[Whisp]

44. good! cry your ugly little hearts out you sick fucks.

too bad you had such shitty parents and role models that obviously taught you Nothing of Worth. They should go to jail with you. And the Coach and all the rest of the slack jawed assholes that couldn't figure out what they were witnessing was wrong.

Cry your ugly hearts out. Be scared, for the first time in your coddled and worthless life be scared and shit your expensive shorts.

[Sheldon Cooper]

74. ...

[Solly Mack]

4. K/R

[AngryOldDem]

5. Good.

They'll be out of commission until they're 21.

I hope the victim finds some peace and closure.

[enough]

73. Not necessarily. The sentence is one year minimum,

maximum going till age 21. (Two-year minimum for Mays.) Minus time served in detention.

[djean111]

7. Oh, yeah, the defendant is quite a loving young man With His Family.

And I am sure his attorney, who has known him - on his best behavior - since last September or whatever, really has a handle on him.
Whining ass.
Never thought he would be caught or held accountable.

[llmart]

10. Just another example of the good ole' boys network......

covering for one another.

[riderinthestorm]

9. Their tears aren't even close to the tears that girl has shed

Now they feel shame and remorse.

Good.

[chervilant]

28. I don't know ...

Their tears may be for themselves. Pics of the two before the verdict seemed to depict smugness or a confidence that they'd skate on this, too.

I sincerely hope they feel shame and remorse, and NOT hatred towards their victim that grows into misogyny.

[riderinthestorm]

38. Well the judge said their fate on the permanent sex offender list rests with them

and what they do in juvie. At release the DYS will make a recommendation it appears, before the court sometime in the future.

I hope these boys can figure it out.

[djean111]

12. It makes me so mad when someone says "I understand that" about something heinous, as if saying that

cancels it out.
Is there a possibility they might just get probation?

[LAGC]

17. Is the judge sentencing them today as well?

Usually sentencing takes place some weeks after a verdict, but I'm not sure how it works in trial-by-judge cases.

[davidpdx]

20. They were talking about whether disposition would take place today

The attorney for Richards is arguing against confinement. It sounds like yes it will.

[polly7]

13. The loud sobbing literally started almost the very second the prosecutor

noted to the judge there had been absolutely no remorse shown.

[freshwest]

57. Fake, then. Just another pair of sociopathics.

[polly7]

59. That's what I was thinking. It seemed perfectly timed. nt.

[freshwest]

63. And they said her last name; she'd already been harrassed over this. Hateful creatures.

[polly7]

64. Yes, I feel so bad for her. I hope she can begin to heal and have a good life. nt.

[freshwest]

65. And with a criminal conviction, let the punitive lawsuits begin - love it.

[polly7]

67. Whoa ...... I never even thought of that.

Cha-ching!

[freshwest]

68. Those boys were being sponsored by deep pockets. Punish them into poverty or close enough.

It won't begin to repair the physical and psychological damage, but it's a start. Such suits are not as much about the amount of money, as in changing the behavior of the powerful who enabled this. And there were too many of them.

[polly7]

69. Absolutely agree. nt.

[LittleBlue]

72. Ugh

Just when you thought they couldn't be more despicable. The only thing they regret is getting caught.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Good

[Brickbat]

16. Is that defense lawyer saying that the one defendant's dad just showed up for the first time in

YEARS? What is this, Law & Order?

[djean111]

19. Oh, the bullshit is getting thicker and thicker.

[JVS]

78. "Meeting your son for the first time on the day of his rape conviction" has to be on the list...

of great moments in deadbeat fatherhood.

[Helen Reddy]

18. The little pecker heads

are only crying because they were caught, tried and found guilty.

My bet is they will never shed tears for any victim(s).

[djean111]

21. They planned to do this in advance.

Drinking had nothing to do with it.

[Brickbat]

22. OMFG, Trent Mays in his own statement

"Those pictures never should have been sent around, let alone taken."

For fucking real?

[etherealtruth]

25. OMG

This is what that jack ass has taken from this?

I suppose he is being honest ... the crime would not have drawn nearly as much attention ... his guilt would not have been so apparent ... yep, I am sure that is what he is sorry about

[MadrasT]

27. I couldn't believe it when I heard that.

Not "it shouldn't have happened".

Just "I shouldn't have been dumb enough to send pictures around."

What a little shitbag.

[Whisp]

46. that is bizzaro world republican talk

wtf

[City Lights]

61. He should have just added:

I'm not sorry I raped her. I'm just sorry I got caught. Damn those pictures!

Fucking asswipe.

[Glimmer of Hope]

23. Ugh - They disclosed the victim's name? Isn't she a juvenile?

[davidpdx]

26. The parents, but that discloses the victims last name as well

Wow, what a bonehead thing to do.

[SemperEadem]

30. I'm shocked that the judge didn't throw a contempt charge at him.

That was a premeditated, fucked up, sneaky thing to do--guess the little turd didn't fall far from the asshole tree.

[davidpdx]

31. +1

I'm a bit shocked.

[freshwest]

60. +1

[tonybgood]

70. Perhaps the girl's parents can file a civil action against them!

[freshwest]

58. No, it wasn't an accident - they want to keep on hurting her for daring to get them jailed.

[Logical]

24. I hate "prison justice" but it is hard for me not to want these assholes to have some issues! n-t

[Brickbat]

29. Being tried as juveniles.

They won't be in prison.

[Logical]

32. Wow, did not know that. Seems like most cases they rule them adults at that age. n-t

[Brickbat]

34. Juvie for at least a year, possibly until they're 21, depending if DYS thinks they're

not rehabilitated. Lots of sex-offender treatment, hearing on sex-offender level classification and registration to come.

[djean111]

35. Judge said it was because it was a first offense.

My opinion it is the first time they got caught and actually charged.
And yeah, judge, let them know how important it is not to tweet this stuff or use a phone to take pictures.

[SemperEadem]

80. that's a lame excuse by the judge

there are plenty of minors who are tried as adults on their first offense.

I think it's more like the judge was "splitting the baby in two": he was hesitant to try them as adults as he should have (but he has to go home and live amongst these creatures who have been blaming the victim), but he had to make a show of "justice" to the victim specifically and the rest of the country, broadly lest all faith in the criminal justice system break down over this.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

48. That's no picnic either.

A lot of gangs in juvenile detention.

[LAGC]

33. 1 YEAR FOR RICHMOND, 2 YEARS FOR MAYS!

What a slap on the wrist!

[msanthrope]

53. It's juvie--they could potentially be in 'til 21. nt

[avebury]

36. Why hasn't anyone gone after the people

who provided these idiots with the liquor? They provided liquor to way more then the kids involved in this incident. In addition, for any adults involved, if they were part of the school system, why didn't they lose their jobs over it?

edit to add: Adults who provided liquor to these underaged kids are just as much at fault with what happened in Steubenville.

[djean111]

40. I was happy that alcohol was not given as much blame. The one guy's dad sure was trying to push

that idea. This was planned very soberly.
This was planned in advance - the girl broke up with one of the football players, another player texted her a few times to come and meet with him, then he drugged her and the raping and drinking and partying started.
So diminished capacity didn't get to ameliorate anything. I think the drinking was, in a way, the only reason they didn't get away with this entirely, because they were too drunk to realise that the pictures and texts would be evidence.
Bt yeah, the providers should have to answer, but looks like this is quite the little good old boy town - not everyone, of course, but the people involved.

[avebury]

43. I in no way excuse the boys. It seems like there is a culture

in Stubenville of teachers, parents, and boosters providing alcohol for underaged teenage parties. That issue appears to not have been addressed and could lead to further incidents like what happened to that girl. There also seems to be a culture of covering up bad behavior of athletes in Stubenville.

[djean111]

47. Oh, I know.

It just seems to me that this wasn't something that started because the boys were drunk; being drunk, of course, was enabling.
I have just seen too many people get away with things by saying oh I was drunk.

The culture of underage drinking in that town needs addressing, but my guess is they will just be more careful.
Wonder if the girl and her family will have to move away.

[freshwest]

62. Not only that, but the space to do this. This happened in homes. One parent said to take her away.

They didn't object - and they were adults. Not only that, one was an elected official.

[Solly Mack]

37. Is the whole town hugging the rapists goodbye?

Sheesh

[SemperEadem]

39. That was a room full of FAIL

they are all stunned that these two criminals didn't walk...

(corrected to state)
they are stunned that the judge saw through them.

[Brickbat]

41. There was no jury.

[SemperEadem]

49. so there wasn't...

it's still a room full of FAIL.

[djean111]

42. I don't think this was a jury trial. Just the judge.

Yes, I think people were surprised, but the evidence was out there for the world to see, no sweeping under the football rug.

[Solly Mack]

45. They probably were surprised.

Sadly.

[99Forever]

50. Good.

Not nearly long enough sentences if you ask me, but being tried minors it's not surprising.

[Eleanors38]

51. They should receive more jail time, but that would make me "Punishment Oriented!,"

something decried by many around here as a RW meme.

[W_HAMILTON]

52. What happened to the one guy that was joking about it all in that video?

Didn't he admit to doing something sexually with the victim as well? Why wasn't he on trial?

[riderinthestorm]

54. He may still face charges. The AG hasn't decided on further charges yet nt

[davidpdx]

55. He apologized

His parents sued a blogger and several people who commented on the post. It was settled out of court with a statement being issued by the blogger. He is at college, but apparently there has been some blowback with all this coming out and it is not clear whether he is still attending.

[Brickbat]

56. Michael Nodianos is facing no charges at this time.

[PotatoChip]

66. I'm having one of those Thank-God-For-DU moments...

Just read the news on MSN about 10 minutes ago, and made the mistake of looking at the comments. A majority of the reactions were fine, but a few were enough to turn my stomach. Ugh!

Closed out the page and came running here asap. What a relief!

[LittleBlue]

71. Good. I hope they spend their time in juvi

thinking about what they put the girl through, and why it was wrong.

[Apophis]

75. Their punishment doesn't seem like its enough.

[ISW]

76. These two creeps should have gotten life!!

[alphafemale]

77. Parents and coaches that let this go on in their fancy Ohio basements should have been on trial too

They bought the beer, then closed the door and their eyes.

[freshwest]

79. +1

[Ash_F]

81. So it looks like the narrative has moved away from the fact she was roofied

... with all the constant talk about alcohol. That had to be supplied by an adult. I guess THAT perp will be getting away?