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randome

(34,845 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:38 PM Mar 2013

Petition to recognize non-binary genders.

One of my daughters is very much into gender rights. She asked that I post this on DU.

It's a petition to allow the same consideration on passports and other official documents as Australia, New Zealand and the UK currently allow -namely the option to select 'X' or 'Mx' instead of simply 'M' for Male and 'F' for Female.

Here is the text of the petition:

Legal documents in the United States only recognize "male" and "female" as genders, leaving anyone who does not identify as one of these two genders with no option. Australia and New Zealand both allow an X in place of an M or an F on passports for this purpose, and the UK recognizes 'Mx' (pronounced "Mix&quot as a gender-neutral title.

This petition asks the Obama administration to legally recognize genders outside of the male-female binary, and provide an option for these genders on all legal documents and records.


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-non-binary-genders/80HYg71P

April 2nd is the deadline.

Sign! Sign!
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Petition to recognize non-binary genders. (Original Post) randome Mar 2013 OP
What are the consequences one way or the other? jberryhill Mar 2013 #1
I think the purpose is to give public recognition to those with non-specific or mixed genders. randome Mar 2013 #3
Why not just drop the gender designation altogether? tularetom Mar 2013 #2
+10 MineralMan Mar 2013 #4
that would be awesome eShirl Mar 2013 #5
I would think it's still important in some cases. randome Mar 2013 #6
I added the text of the petition to my post. randome Mar 2013 #7
No problem ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #8
Done. Happily. Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #9
Signed and shared. Zephie Mar 2013 #10
Australia and the U.K. are currently considering dropping the gender distinction entirely. randome Mar 2013 #11
It's also about self-identification. randome Mar 2013 #12
There are 10 kinds of people ThoughtCriminal Mar 2013 #13
Yeah, this probably isn't something most people can see for themselves. randome Mar 2013 #14
Funny how a corporation can be a person but a person can't. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #15
+1000 baldguy Mar 2013 #16
Signed and Tweeted, for your daughter! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #17
Well... Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #18
In the case two non-binary gendered individuals arrive at a door at the same time... Fumesucker Mar 2013 #19
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. I think the purpose is to give public recognition to those with non-specific or mixed genders.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:49 PM
Mar 2013

Public recognition is probably the most important first step to being more inclusive overall.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. Why not just drop the gender designation altogether?
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:47 PM
Mar 2013

I can see this turning into a can of worms with multiple genders clamoring for individual designations.

If the idea of selecting a gender from a pre approved list is confusing or offensive to somebody, wouldn't it be better to just eliminate "gender" as a box to check on a document?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. I would think it's still important in some cases.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:55 PM
Mar 2013

Simply so governments have an idea who is coming and going for security, health and census purposes.

And some people are truly torn about having to choose 'M' or 'F' when they don't consider themselves either, or they DO consider themselves both. It's a public consideration thing.

No one's proposing an endless list, as far as I know.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Australia and the U.K. are currently considering dropping the gender distinction entirely.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 02:14 PM
Mar 2013

But I think it's an important first step to get America to at least recognize non-binary designations or else we may not follow their lead.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. It's also about self-identification.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 02:41 PM
Mar 2013

Someone may physically be male but identify themselves as female. Or vice-versa.

So it's a politeness thing but also about forcing recognition of non-standard gender identification.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. Yeah, this probably isn't something most people can see for themselves.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 02:43 PM
Mar 2013

I confess I wouldn't, either, if my daughter wasn't conveying the complexities of it to me.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
18. Well...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 05:58 AM
Mar 2013

Gender is largely a socially-constructed identity that's to some extent separate from biological sex; in the case of persons born intersexed due to some chromosomal abnormality or hormone insensitivity there's a strong cultural bias to place them in one of the binary genders (and in the case of people with gender dysphoria then the social identification of them as belonging to what they perceive as the "wrong" gender can be a source of significant psychological distress). So, something like this is a good thing, in terms of social recognition.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
19. In the case two non-binary gendered individuals arrive at a door at the same time...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 06:02 AM
Mar 2013

Which one holds the door for the other?



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