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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 08:25 PM Mar 2013

Fishermen Can't Sell Fish from Fukushima?

Last edited Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:03 PM - Edit history (1)

A CBS news report states that fish from around Japan are too radiated to be eaten. It's been two years. When will our technology catch up and end the pollution?

From CBS;

Japan fishing crippled 2 years after tsunami

Ever since last year's nuclear disaster, Niitsuma is only allowed to fish once a week, and he must turn his catch over to a government lab.

Ken Buessler is a U.S. Marine chemist from Woods Hole. He went to Japan three months after the disaster and studied the Japanese government's test results for the next 12 months.

"The numbers aren't going down that fast off Japan since the accident," he said.

"Those reactors," he said, "either by the cooling water that's still being put on there, that's leaking out, or the contamination of the site, are still releasing cesium to the ocean."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57574739/japan-fishing-crippled-2-years-after-tsunami/

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Fishermen Can't Sell Fish from Fukushima? (Original Post) RobertEarl Mar 2013 OP
Personally, I Would Never Eat Fish Again Between Fukushima And The BP Gulf Spill cantbeserious Mar 2013 #1
They have been serving radioactive school lunches in Japan. Spreading it all over the country, as if Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #4
The Risk Of Early Death Is Not Worth The Benefit - Plain And Simple cantbeserious Mar 2013 #5
Not at all. Those poor kids... nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #6
Agreed - Children Suffering Is Not Good cantbeserious Mar 2013 #9
when big oil can lasso the sun.... spanone Mar 2013 #2
Why would anyone expect the contamination to get better yet? Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #3
That's the spin of the alleged "chemist" in the story: Trillo Mar 2013 #7
Yeah. Predictable RobertEarl Mar 2013 #8
We needed solutions to these problems Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #10
That would have been very wise RobertEarl Mar 2013 #11
They got out or were fired? Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #14
Maybe stop eating fish anyway? flvegan Mar 2013 #12
I like animals. They taste good. RobertEarl Mar 2013 #13
Fish move around SoCalDem Mar 2013 #15
They are like us RobertEarl Mar 2013 #16

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
4. They have been serving radioactive school lunches in Japan. Spreading it all over the country, as if
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 08:54 PM
Mar 2013

that will lessen the effects. Ay, yi, yi.

I won't touch seafood either, same reasons.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. Why would anyone expect the contamination to get better yet?
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 08:34 PM
Mar 2013

Were they expecting dilution of it in the water? Did they think that the halflife of cesium to have changed? This is very disturbing, but very predictible.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
7. That's the spin of the alleged "chemist" in the story:
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:18 PM
Mar 2013

Surprise that it is not going down. Another example of a reasonably well trained and intelligent person misleading?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. Yeah. Predictable
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:20 PM
Mar 2013

What was predicted was that they could control the pollution. They told us nuclear was safe. I took that as meaning they would know how to fix a mistake once it happened. They are smart people, those nuclear scientists.

But it is two years now and the mistake is nowhere close to being fixed.
Instead they are just trying to flush it away. In to the ocean.

Have you heard of any solutions? Did the nuclear scientists suddenly go dumb? We needed solutions yesterday.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. We needed solutions to these problems
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:28 PM
Mar 2013

before we decided to use nuclear power. Just because you have a technology does not mean you use it until you work out all the issues that can arise, or at least the ones that are bound to arise. If that were to have been the case, they would have worked harder at finding the technology to deal with problems. A little late for that.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. That would have been very wise
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:56 PM
Mar 2013

Einstein was said to have felt that mankind having such great power as control of the atom would doom man. Because without changing the mode of thinking it was certain to blow up in our faces.

So, while the scientists were very smart, they were not very wise. Otherwise they would have planned for what would happen when it did blow up in our faces.

Of course, in all fairness to the nuke scientists, some did get out of the business when they were ignored for stating the reality that one day a nuke plant would blow up in our faces. They either got out or were fired.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
14. They got out or were fired?
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 06:27 PM
Mar 2013

Oy vey! The saddest part of that is that they would have been the only ones who were capable of figuring out how to deal with the problems that could come up. I know that Oppenheimer was also very vocal about could happen with the power we had unleashed. I suppose that I would mourn the fact that they bailed on us after the fact instead of working to help with the aftermath.

"If atomic bombs are to be added as new weapons to the arsenals of a warring world, or to the arsenals of nations preparing for war, then the time will come when mankind will curse the names of Los Alamos and Hiroshima. The people must unite, or they will perish." J Robert Oppenheimer

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. I like animals. They taste good.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:40 PM
Mar 2013

But eating fish is not something that is healthy. They accumulate toxins. Mercury from coal plants is in all fish, and now they have radiation up the yung-yo.

I see you are Vegan? Good for you. Take my title as a joke, mostly. Gave up cows long ago and my health is pretty good. Fish too, recently. It would be highly advisable for people to forgo fish and pigs, and horses, and dogs, and cats and all other mammals, wouldn't you agree?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
16. They are like us
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:42 PM
Mar 2013

They are top of the food chain. Well, one step down from us.

They do move around, from off the coast of Japan to the west coast of the US. And back.

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