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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)marble falls
(57,081 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)marble falls
(57,081 posts)klook
(12,154 posts)Paladin
(28,254 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)RILib
(862 posts)The poor fig tree! How unChristian of God.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Cassidy
(202 posts)I empathize with the frustration, but by responding with anger and hatred, we play right into their hands, in spite of how legitimate our anger and frustration is.
Humor is a much better way to respond. For example, when a woman, presumably associated with the same hate group, showed up in Syracuse, NY, with a sign that read, "Homosexuality is a sin, Christ can set you free." A young man countered with a sign that said, "Corduroy skirts are a sin." (see photo in link below)
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/11/30/god-hates-corduroy-skirts
His humorous response made the point without vulgarity, without threats of violence, and it got a great deal of publicity at the time (safe for work, safe for kids, etc.).
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)....the irony of which I found pretty humorous.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)datasuspect
(26,591 posts)DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)I think FUCK is proper in this instance....
Paladin
(28,254 posts)Cassidy
(202 posts)But the language you use is, by its nature, threatening. Is not sharing your sense of humor a crime worthy of verbal attack?
Response to Cassidy (Reply #6)
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defacto7
(13,485 posts)It's a good tactic.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Whatever works against the hateful nutjobs, I say.
But good luck trying to get DUers to abstain from the F-word.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)The fact that you see this guy as a threat says more about you then it does about him.
Cassidy
(202 posts)Wow. Maybe you are right. I am female. I have been raped. Yes, I am sensitive to implied sexual assault. That is the world I live in. And in that world, rape - what is implied when someone says "f*** you" - is never funny. Sorry I am so lacking your type of humor. Thanks for mansplaining for me.
What happened to you is awful. It also has fuckall to do with some guy trolling a fundie with a "fuck this guy" sign. Semantics and all. If it bothers you this much, you are probably not highly functional in our culture and probably need some counseling.
What is the point of your ad hominem? My initial point was that there may be other ways of responding to hate groups. I am surprised at how I am being so hatefully attacked for simply offering an alternative. My life experience has to do with how I respond to things. Is that not the same for everyone? I do not like it when others tell me how to feel about things, do you?
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)had you included the information in your original post then I would have already known why, what you said about his sign, said more about you than him, and I certainly can understand your position now. I apologize for any misunderstanding. Please know that there was no animosity on my part, just a different perspective.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)SamReynolds
(170 posts)Rife with humor, in fact!
Cha
(297,196 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)titanicdave
(429 posts)Those lower class twits from that so called "church" need this kind of treatment all the time every time......Westboro Baptist Church is not a church that the vast majority of people can associate with and support.....I love that young man's courage and the sign is just fantastic....... love it love it love it
2naSalit
(86,586 posts)also allows them to evade taxes...
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)I literally have tears in my eyes from the picture and the comments. Great way to start the week in a high note.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Nice artistry for a hateful, stupid message.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)His fetish. He's trying to tamp down his need for gay love, but making and carrying those little graphics is a subconscious turn on. He gets off on it.
siligut
(12,272 posts)But damn, that is a cute little sign he made.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Maybe I should have added the sarcasm thingy. But your next post seems to get my point. Oh well, now it's not a joke anymore and we all tiptoe a little lighter as we tread DU. The last thing I am is anti-gay... believe me!
siligut
(12,272 posts)What I meant is that implying that the reason someone is anti-gay is because they are in the closet tends to irritate some people on DU. I used to know why, but now I don't remember. Maybe someone will remind me.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I didn't think about that being a problem. No offence to anyone intended. Thanks for the heads up in case.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Not that there ever IS any discussion of why heterosexuals can be homophobic. I've been living among heterosexuals all my life. The vast majority of them are either very happy with me or totally uninterested in me. Every so often there's one that isn't.
One day I'd like to sit one of them down and say:
"Okay. I'd really like to know. What your ACTUAL beef with me? Every time you talk about it seems to be something different about me that you don't like."
siligut
(12,272 posts)Your reason removes pat excuses for bad behavior and keeps the discussion open and as a firm believer in communication therapy I will certainly remember this time.
I do want to say that there is a good deal of evidence that fearful people just don't like people who are different from them. This is what you seem to be describing. A person who can't really pinpoint why they are uncomfortable with you may not actually recognize that they are a xenophobe.
That said, kudos for being an unofficial ambassador for gay people. People tend to like people who seek to be liked.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Like the guy who didn't pay child support and has to wear a sign. But this guy just has to hold one up. So he made it enjoyable.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)LTR
(13,227 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)talkingmime
(2,173 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The guy's piddler when he made it.
olddots
(10,237 posts)these westboro people have a death wish and hope to get attention for their insane cause.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)"Methinks he doth protest too much!"
TommyCelt
(838 posts)The offending sign was short, nasty, and direct...IMO, the counter called for the same.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Is more "bystander" friendly. If we are trying to get people on our side, we cannot fall to the opposition's level. Regardless of what you or I may think of "profanity", some people are offended by it, and the do NOT appreciate it out where their kids can see it .
Also, my response is more likely to rile up the hateful asshats from WBC, especially since we have seen it turn out to be true many, many times.
Show me a person who is virulently anti-gay and I will show you a self-loathing gay person.
TommyCelt
(838 posts)About the profanity, anyway. I've 2 boys under 16 myself.
The thing is...outside of the WB church members (all 120 or so of them), you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who was NOT against them. When a hate group like the KKK feels obligated to put out a press release to distance themselves from any connection with the virulent WBC, that's pretty damned fringe.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)That would be a PERFECT rejoinder to the fools who parade around like that with their hate signs.
What I can't understand is where are all the "legitimate" Christians demanding that he stop using those signs and hijacking their religion? Why aren't THEY standing up and defaming the misuse of the message of Christ? Couldn't possibly be that they are much like the Muslims who likewise do not condemn their own crazies?
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)they just won't make an actual effort to do so that involves standing for something.
Just my opinion...
TlalocW
(15,381 posts)But I'm going to toot my own horn.
http://colddaypontooning.blogspot.com/2007/04/fun-with-fred-phelps.html
TlalocW
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)I took this shot during the RNC in Tampa
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Response to BlueStreak (Reply #40)
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Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Honk if you hate bigots like him <----------
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Peace through being funny. Awesome!