Hillary Clinton Announces Support for Marriage Equality (video message)

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Hillary Clinton announces support for gay marriage in online video released today:

Chelsea Clinton ‏@ChelseaClinton
Today my mom announced her support for gay marriage! #ProudDaughterAgain #MarriageEquality http://bit.ly/134AiPa

[Arkansas Granny]

1. Hillary has always been a strong supporter of human rights.

[Beacool]

2. That's my gal!!!!

Now that she's no longer the SOS, she can say what's in her heart.

Thank you, Hillary!!!

[daybranch]

29. yes but

she coud have said it when she was running for Senate and she could have said it when she was running for President. Honestly I believe she is a supporter of gay rights, but like so many politicians their real feelings seem only to come out when it is to their political advantage. Would it not be nice if morals and ethics were not driven by polls when it comes to political figures of both parties? I was and am a Hillary supporter but this I fear only illustrates the reticence of our politicians to take an unpopular stand. But that's politics.

[grahamhgreen]

3. We need representatives we don't have to bring kicking and screaming into reality.

However, if she can support ending the costly trade agreements, she might get my vote.

[bigtree]

5. well, for better or worse, they won't prevail politically on a single issue alone

. . . and Clinton brings much more than this tardy transformation to the arena.

I think that 'kicking and screaming' is okay for shorthand, but it's important to note the political impetus that's been generated from activists, advocates - and from an emerging, enlightened, experienced generation that many of us have raised and fostered into appreciating their own social and political responsibility. I think these politicians are responding as we've been counseling, and it's a good thing to see all of that in action.

What I'd personally like to hear is how they feel now about having placed their religious beliefs ahead of actual humanity? The answer might just go a long way in persuading others to abandon their own selfishness and acknowledge these very important and basic human rights.

[sulphurdunn]

18. Any Democrat

running for president will stump to eliminate costly trade agreements until elected and then will get a case of amnesia.

[grahamhgreen]

24. You mean like this?

[UnrepentantLiberal]

25. That's my candidate Obama.

[Larry Ogg]

31. Dennis Kucinich consistently opposed NAFTA In the 2007 presidential debates, and beyond...

And to the contrary, I don't recall ever hearing Obama appose any of the free trade agreements any more than any other corporately owned politician that is destroying the country.

The picture looks like something the Koch brothers are trying to feed the teabaggers, i.e. scapegoat all the blame onto the black guy even though he is on the side of those who ship high paying jobs overseas.

[grahamhgreen]

39. OMG, sorry, but it's very very real - mailer to Ohio voters - google it!

Do you agree that the costly trade agreements are costing US jobs?

[Larry Ogg]

42. The trade agreements of today, are only one part of the predator class's dream come true...

Laborers work the resources of the land, create, and service tangible wealth. But unfair trade agreements pasted by venal politicians in both political Parties, gives the predator class a license to steel from workers, and turn them into low paid debt slaves all over the World.

Of course the same predators that have convinced the Tea Party right wingers that free trade is good for the country, also want the Tea Party to believe that Obama is a free trade apposing liberal, none of which is true. But through all the smoke and mirrors, another part of their agenda is to make Obama look like a villain, in order to preserve the illusion that their is a big difference between the two major Parties.

I don't question that the mailer is real, but luckily for the predator class, their uninformed target audience will take it at face value, and use it as an excuse to act against their own best interest, it's just another non-existent boogie-man that is used to further empower the predator class.

[1-Old-Man]

4. Wow, what a brave and timely stance to take.

She's right on time with this one. How many tens of thousands of gay couples have already been married, how many communities have actually done something in the sense that they allow gay men and women to be wed while good old Hillary was on the fence? To me her acceptance of what is already a national reality falls under the category of too little too late.

[bigtree]

6. well, 'too late' might be a stretch

. . . 'too little' remains to be seen.

[Beacool]

7. Remember the job Hillary had for the last 4 years?

Well, she's no longer the SOS and can say whatever she pleases. Same old thing with some of you. No matter what, it's never good enough.

[grahamhgreen]

8. What's her stance on costly trade agreements?

[Beacool]

11. I don't know.

write to her website and ask her.

[grahamhgreen]

40. Maybe I should write to the board of directors of Walmart of which she used to be part of.

She is for shipping American jobs overseas by use of costly trade agreements.

Prove me wrong.

[Beacool]

41. Oh, please...........

[tishaLA]

9. Courageous!

Only 16.5 years after her husband signed DOMA and 5 years after Dick Cheney announced his support of marriage equality.

[union_maid]

10. I like Hillary

I really do, but c'mon. This is now a given for Democrats. It's news if you're a Democrat who doesn't support Marriage Equality now. Granted, it was a faster transition that with most issues, but it is now a done deal.

[bigdarryl]

12. Hey Hillary it's a little late in the game

Just like a politician seeing which way the wind is blowing

[amuse bouche]

13. So you didn't bother

watching it

[bigdarryl]

16. Nope

[amuse bouche]

19. I could tell you didn't watch it

It was obvious you didn't have a clue and only went by the title

[Larry Ogg]

32. I forced myself to watch the whole thing on another thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017106319#post11

I get my clues from liberal perspectives, and I believe in them.

Unlike the many politicians who preach like a liberal just to get elected, but end up being the antithesis of a liberal, and destructive towards many liberal values.

[Beacool]

21. How could you comment on something that you didn't watch?

[amuse bouche]

33. I noticed the same thing on Huffpo

Lots of stupid comments, related to the title only

Ignorance abounds

[Beacool]

35. I agree.

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Lots of stupid comments at The Huff. I just checked and there are almost 12,000 comments on this subject.

The comments can be divided in 3 categories.

1. Praise for Hillary for announcing her support.
2. Complaints from the bitters who think that she should have done it a long time ago.
3. Virulence, bigotry and sheer hate from the RW homophobes.

In life one has to learn to do what one thinks is right for one self, and if others don't like it, they can go eff themselves. I think that Hillary learned that lesson years ago in the WH.

[amuse bouche]

37. She didn't have to come out with a statement. Her support would have

been assumed, since she is such a human rights person

However, I think she made an appearance now, because she is feeling rested and wanted people to know, she has no intention of going away

I bet we see her every once in awhile until she announces she's running

[Beacool]

38. Hopefully!!

I'm hoping that she does run, but we will just have to wait and see.

[fadedrose]

20. +

[closeupready]

14. That's beautiful. Thank you, Hillary Clinton!

K&R

[GoCubsGo]

15. I always assumed this was the case.

Glad she put it out in the open.

[SunSeeker]

17. Looking good, Hillary! nt

[radiclib]

22. She's running.

Duh.

[Rose Siding]

23. Huh, she sounds positively Presidential.

And I'm glad to hear it!

[UnrepentantLiberal]

26. I'm sorry,

this is just cynical manipulation. I'm not buying it.

[question everything]

27. I can't help it. Listening to Hillary's cultured, calm voice

and comparing it to Palin's shrieking (at CPAC).

Thank you Hillary for sticking around.

[mythology]

28. I agree that she probably couldn't have said this while she was SoS

but I think she's been here longer than even that. But the Secretary of State isn't supposed to get involved in national politics.

Public support for gay marriage has come a long way in a relatively short period of time. She's a politician who was running for first statewide and then nationwide offices. I don't think that a politician until very recently could win if they had been open about supporting gay marriage.

But it's not like she didn't work for gay rights before today. She spoke powerfully at the U.N. on the subject in 2011. And as Secretary of State she was leading the effort to push our aid efforts to countries that protect and respect gay rights.

I get that it's frustrating for those directly affected by the lack of nationwide gay marriage and all the accompanying associated benefits, but system is designed to be slow, to prevent rapid change. But Hillary Clinton isn't the enemy of gays and she wasn't before today either.

Let's celebrate that she's publicly changed her position, whatever the reason.

[blkmusclmachine]

30. You can't square this with her membership in "The Family,"

who, word has it, helped co-author the genocidal Ugandan Kill the Gays bill which is peculating before the Ugandan Congress.

IMO

[bigtree]

34. conspiracy-based nonsense

. . . squared.

[Beacool]

36. Again with this crap?

She was not a member of the Family, but she did attend prayer breakfasts both as first lady and as a senator. At these breakfasts politics are expected to stay outside the room. Hillary is a Methodist and religious. She doesn't carry it on her sleeve like many conservatives do, but she does practice her religion. I see nothing wrong with that.