How UGA keeps minorities out

[wilt the stilt]

All first year students have to live on campus. Even if you get the hope scholarship( all freshman get it because you will have the grades) it still costs around $20,000 a year to attend. The school is very white and really red neck. How does your state Universities handle freshman?

[RiffRandell]

1. Unfortunately, that is my state.

I hope to hell we move before my son gets to college. We were talking about it the other day. I'd prefer Tech or GA State over UGA.

Hope will probably be gone by then anyway.

[n2doc]

6. Tech is a great school for engineers

UGA is not so good for much of anything except ag studies, and football. Good Vet school, though.

[wilt the stilt]

9. not true

It has many excellent departments. Top law school and top business school. One of the few schools that has a chance to get it's grads to Wall Street. My niece was a UVA grad and went to Wall Street for 3 years. She didn't like it and then went to Stanford and they paid her first year's tuition for her Masters. UGA was one of the few schools they considered.

This was true 15 years ago. Zell Miller started the hope in order to keep their top students. Georgia used to lose 80% of their top grads. they now keep 85% of their top grads.

If you don't have at least a 3.7 and 1350 on your SAT's you have a 5% chance of getting in.

GT is ranked 7 and UGA is 16 nationally.

[dawg]

16. Dagnabbit! I'm a farmer!

And I thought I was some sort of highfalutin' business analysis kinda guy. Go figure!

Tech is a great school for engineers, you're right about that. But Georgia is one of the top public universities in the Southeast, with many excellent programs of study. Plus, the school of accounting there is named after Jethro Tull! How cool is that?

[wilt the stilt]

10. FYI

GA State doesn't compare to UGA. Also UGA and GT have flat rates for tuition as opposed to every other school which pay by the credit hour. If you take 12 hours you still pay for 15.

[RiffRandell]

14. Thanks for the info.

If we are still living here I don't mind him going out of state---he's in 6th grade right now.

[onehandle]

2. I had two different girlfriends go there.

I would consider them minorities, because they were about 1000% smarter than most of the students I encountered there when visiting.

[alfie]

3. How does that keep minorities out? NT

[wilt the stilt]

7. $20,000 per year

is kind of cost prohibitive. If you could commute the costs come way down. Athens is only an hour commute from Atlanta. It is very hard to get into. Let's say you are cash strapped and want to go to the UGA for academic reasons and you don't want to be broke by the time you graduate. Minorities are poorer than whites in GA.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. My college required freshman to live on campus OR at home.

This was many years ago, and I don't know if the policy has changed. I lived at home my first semester (no problem, since I lived in the same city and the college was on a bus line) because the dorms were full, then second semester I moved to a dorm. IIRC, after your freshman year you could live anywhere you wanted.

[NightWatcher]

5. Seems to preclude the poor more than any minority

Or it precludes anyone who can't get a lot of loans.

[wilt the stilt]

8. Minorities in GA

are more likely to be poor.

[dawg]

11. Or, it could be ...

that the University has grown so fast that there is very limited space remaining for commuter parking lots.

[wilt the stilt]

13. nah, I don't believe it

there are only 5,000 freshman and the school hasn't grown that much. Both my kids are there.

[dawg]

17. Have you tried to get a parking spot?

Seriously.

The commuter lots that I used are all buildings now. There has been a vast expansion of the physical footprint of the university, regardless of what the student count might be. Sports fans are purchasing little scraps of land, nearly a mile away from the stadium, just so they can tailgate in the fall.

[wilt the stilt]

18. that is true

and my daughter has a parking pass right now because of a broken foot. If you wanted to have commuters it can happen. Designate a lot and give kids commuting from Atlanta preferential treatment. The bus system is pretty elaborate.

As far as game day it is insane.

[cordelia]

15. That's a good possibility.

At one time, students were required to live on campus their freshmen only if they lived outside a 50 mile radius. Don't know if that's changed over the years.

[wilt the stilt]

20. everyone is on campus now n/t

[Paul E Ester]

12. Minorities or people without money?

There are plenty of poor whites who probably feel just as discriminated against. This is probably more about class than race.

[tallahasseedem]

19. A lot of universities do this...

Even a traditional all-black university.

http://www.famu.edu/index.cfm?housing&%28FTIC%29ResidencyRequirement

A lot of it has to do with parking. And, of course, generating money for the universities and their vendors.