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ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:20 PM Mar 2013

NYPD orders cops to run criminal checks on domestic violence victims

What the actual fuck? The NY Post reports:

Women who report domestic violence are exposing themselves to arrest under a new NYPD directive that orders cops to run criminal checks on the accused and the accuser, The Post has learned.

The memo by Chief of Detectives Phil Pulaski requires detectives to look at open warrants, complaint histories and even the driving records of both parties.

“You have no choice but to lock them up” if the victims turn out to have warrants, including for minor offenses like unpaid tickets, a police source said.

“This is going to deter victims of domestic violence . . . They’re going to be scared to come forward.”

This has gotta be, like, domestic violence policy 101, right? Anyone with any common sense can predict that this policy is likely to have a huge chilling effect. “The majority of domestic-violence cases go unreported,” explained defense attorney Joseph Tacopina. “This is just going to increase this percentage.”


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NYPD orders cops to run criminal checks on domestic violence victims (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2013 OP
I bet the "huge chilling effect" on reporting tblue37 Mar 2013 #1
That's my guess. ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2013 #6
What the fuck?... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #2
Very very bad policy Marrah_G Mar 2013 #3
This is common practice in many areas. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #4
Yep.. In a "she said-he said" world , cops will check all involved SoCalDem Mar 2013 #20
Doesn't anyone give a sheshe2 Mar 2013 #5
k&r n/t Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #7
I'm having trouble being sympathetic to someone with an outstanding arrest warrant. badtoworse Mar 2013 #8
Yes, but you can have a warrant against you for a small debt or a parking ticket. nt Flatulo Mar 2013 #9
oh. So being on the wrong side of the law disqualifies you for protection against being abused? BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #11
The problem is knowing it then, rather then at trial... Historic NY Mar 2013 #18
Absolutely - they deserve protection, but not a pass on outstanding warrants badtoworse Mar 2013 #21
What you just said is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #15
I think if you have an outstanding warrant, you should deal with that. badtoworse Mar 2013 #22
28 hundred posts Ash_F Mar 2013 #19
It seems like too many women of domestic violence Cha Mar 2013 #10
Sounds like some old white wrinkled up child abuser decided this crap. Coward. Afraid of the lonestarnot Mar 2013 #12
Pulaski is an idiot. Someone needs to picket Bloomberg's office and make him fire the asshole. loudsue Mar 2013 #13
Booooooo!!!!! tblue Mar 2013 #14
I think it's time to start implementing this rule in police departments: backscatter712 Mar 2013 #16
I guess they needed more time for stop and frisking. bluedigger Mar 2013 #17
This is the outcome of what happens when people expect the police to reduce crime. Glassunion Mar 2013 #23

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
20. Yep.. In a "she said-he said" world , cops will check all involved
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:53 AM
Mar 2013

because they are covering all bases to prove that they were being thorough.

Computers make it super-easy for law enforcement, and if there are children involved, the cops can probably justify it.

Familial violence often extends to the kids too

sheshe2

(83,759 posts)
5. Doesn't anyone give a
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:13 PM
Mar 2013

F**K anymore about keeping, women and children safe! We just got VAWA passed and now here goes the NYPD, making it harder for a victim to seek help. Way to go NYPD, lets just keep on victimizing them!

This is obscene and I am furious!

And before any one jumps down my throat, I know men can be victims too.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
8. I'm having trouble being sympathetic to someone with an outstanding arrest warrant.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 05:23 PM
Mar 2013

Breaking the law does have its downsides.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
11. oh. So being on the wrong side of the law disqualifies you for protection against being abused?
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:01 AM
Mar 2013

Is that what you're saying?

I don't care if you're a prostitute or a druggie or a jaywalker, women still deserve protection against violent partners.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
18. The problem is knowing it then, rather then at trial...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 02:14 AM
Mar 2013

blows the case out the window. It would be the first question a defendants attorney would ask. I think the order is a more CYA manuver that they can deal with in advance.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
15. What you just said is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:18 AM
Mar 2013

You think that women should fear trying to get protection from violent psycho husbands/boyfriends/ex's?

Really?

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
22. I think if you have an outstanding warrant, you should deal with that.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:14 PM
Mar 2013

Even if such a policy had not been announced, do you actually believe that the outstanding warrant would not be discovered at some point in the process? I would expect that the cops check that anytime they are called or have cause to stop you. When that happens, do you think it's reasonable to expect that the cops will just let you go? I don't and I strongly doubt anyone in a domestic violence situation would either.

Not dealing with an outstanding warrant is a choice you can make, but it's a very bad one.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
10. It seems like too many women of domestic violence
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:52 PM
Mar 2013

don't report it anyway. We need to be encourged not deterrents.

thanks PL

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
12. Sounds like some old white wrinkled up child abuser decided this crap. Coward. Afraid of the
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:22 AM
Mar 2013

most dangerous cop work.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
13. Pulaski is an idiot. Someone needs to picket Bloomberg's office and make him fire the asshole.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:45 AM
Mar 2013

What a mess.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
16. I think it's time to start implementing this rule in police departments:
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:30 AM
Mar 2013

If you're an officer, and you witness misconduct from a fellow officer, if you fail to report it, you get punished equally to the officer that committed the misconduct. If you're a supervisor that hears a report from one of your officers, and you fail to act on that report, you get busted even worse.

Maybe that would break through the blue wall of silence...

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
23. This is the outcome of what happens when people expect the police to reduce crime.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:41 PM
Mar 2013

Take an under-reported crime, make it harder for the victim to report it, reports of the crime go down, stats get published making look like crime has dropped. The police take the credit and everyone is happy... right?

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