Blair Cornered on War Crimes - Even BBC s on his case

[autorank]

By Michael Collins
The Agonist



If leaders may lie, then who should tell the truth? Desmond Tutu

Tony Blair's war crimes are official, well almost official. Tonight, the BBC’s Panorama will roll out yet more serious evidence that Tony Blair knew Saddam Hussein had NO weapons of mass destruction for months prior to the United States – British invasion of Iraq.

“Fresh evidence is revealed today about how MI6 and the CIA were told through secret channels by Saddam Hussein’s foreign minister and his head of intelligence that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction.

“Tony Blair told parliament before the war that intelligence showed Iraq’s nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons programme was active, growing and up and running.” Richard Norton-Taylor, Guardian, March 18

Specifically, according to Panorama, British intelligence had a critical meeting in Amman, Jordan three months before the invasion. The head of Saddam Hussein’s intelligence agency confirmed that there were no WMD. The British Dodgy Dossier was published days after this information was gathered. That Google generated fabrication pushed for war and conveniently left out the Amman intelligence. This is both fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud.

Link http://agonist.org/blair-cornered-on-war-crimes-in-iraq/

[malaise]

1. More here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21786506

[Clyde Tenson]

31. Yeah, there's more there...read it carefully...VERY carefully.

Be aware that on this 10th anniversary of the beginning of "Shock & Awe" there will be some very clever push back. That article that you link to on the BBC website (that alone should raise a red flag) very cutely places the whole clusterfuck on two spies "who fooled the world" - notably the CIA and Britain's M16, which is a total crock of shite as they say in Blighty. We're talking about "Curveball" and another shyster named Muhammad Harith. (He's the one that peddled the mobile biological laboratories scam) And the article actually wants us to believe that these two yo-yos had the two top intel agencies on the planet swallowing that bullshit. Really?

Or try this: "Lord Butler who conducted gov inquiry into WMD intel says, 'Mr. Blair and the intel community misled themselves." Say what?!! Oh I see...they misled themselves...Move along, nothing to see here...

Isn't it hilarious how these fuckers are trying to cover up culpability for the slaughter of 4,500 of America's finest and AT LEAST 100,000 plus Iraqis - we don't really know how much do we?

Be careful with what you read that BBC article is evil. I'm just sayin'

[malaise]

40. They can't fool me

Everyone knows they lied.

[snagglepuss]

42. Excellent point.

Welcome to DU.

[Denzil_DC]

2. Kick for visibility

Just watched the documentary, and I'd recommend catching it when it's available online or wherever.

Not that I expect much to happen as a result, but at least there's some hope it'll hamper Blair's attempts to rewrite history, rehabilitate his image, and keep on meddling on foreign affairs.

[malaise]

3. Blair is going down fast

He will be a pariah in no time - hiding in the shadows. I hope they all suffer for the rest of their lives although they should be in the Hague.

I really want to see the Panorama programme.

[autorank]

33. The press in Britain is voracious

...but the government is, well, the government. Their House of Commons investigations can get pretty intense but it's a flash and show

At least the press hammers these sandals. Much better than the sleepwalkers here.

[RC]

4. Hopefully Tony will the first of many dominoes to fall.

Once he is down, the ones in this country will be easier.

[Grateful for Hope]

6. I hope this is true.

I so hope it.

[Ikonoklast]

5. "The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine."

Poodle Boy Tony better keep a bag packed.

[Cha]

30. Here's Poodle-boy's laps in all their gory..

[autorank]

34. LoL

He's headed for the Boulevard of Lost Dreams.

[formercia]

7. I wonder if Susan's name will come up.

[Benton D Struckcheon]

8. May I ask who you're referring to?

I know I probably should know.

[formercia]

11. Susan Lindauer

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0903/S00130.htm

[Benton D Struckcheon]

13. Like, wow.

Can't she, or has she, sued for false imprisonment or something along those lines?

[formercia]

16. Don't know.

Autorank might know. He has been in contact with her in the Past.

[grasswire]

20. wow

from your link

In five years, we could only guess about those two charges. We surmised that in October 1999, I was indicted for blocking the Iraqi Government in Baghdad from making financial campaign contributions to the George W. Bush Presidential Campaign.

That's right. With immediate assistance from my U.S. Intelligence contacts, I stopped Iraq from making illegal campaign contributions to the 2000 Bush Election campaign--at least through my channels.

We have speculated that perhaps Saddam gave money to the Bush Campaign in 2000 through somebody else and some other channel. And the Republicans don't want anybody to know about it. Perhaps I was indicted to stop the Democrats from investigating campaign contribution records.

Consider that Andy Card was warned of Iraq's attempts in two progress reports on March 1, 2001 and December 2, 2001. The Republican leadership that attacked me was very much aware that this question of illegal campaign contributions was hanging out there. And I was indicted for stopping it from happening.

[JDPriestly]

32. Amazing interview!

[snagglepuss]

43. To read later. THanks for posting.

[autorank]

35. Hey there friend!

Susan's name came up for me. She's in MN this week and supposed to announce something big. Dunno know what.

[formercia]

47. Should be interesting, whatever it is.

Long time no see.

[Berlum]

9. "Tuff shit, Tony." - George AWOL Bush (R)

"Somebody has to take the fall, and you're it. Smirk."

- George AWOL Bush (R)

[formercia]

17. Junior was using his Intuition

Being that he spoke to 'God' and all that.

[RainDog]

10. k&r n/t

[Cleita]

12. Bush's poodle? Maybe if he gets nailed, it will be easier to

get Bush and Cheney.

[skydive forever]

14. I only hope to live long enough

to see all these war criminals held accountable. But the realist in me says that's not likely. Sigh.

[KoKo]

15. Agree...it will be long time coming but be very sweet when it does...

and we might not be here to see it when it happens...but, eventually the whole damned thing back to Kennedy Assassinations will come out...and someone or "ones" will be held accountable.

It's cost us so much money that eventually it will be outed and the "blame" will push those who hold back now... imho.

[bvar22]

18. Everybody KNEW.

Some Democrats opposed the Invasion of Iraq,
and demonstrated their political courage and integrity by STANDING
in OPPOSITION in a hostile environment.
Kudos to these brave Democrats!


[font size=4]The Democratic Party Honor Roll[/font]
These Democrats should be remembered for their principled stand against the WAR Machine.

The Authorization to use Military Force in Iraq
Iraq War Resolution

United States Senate

In the Senate, the 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent courageously voted their consciences in 2002 against the War in Iraq :

Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii)
Jeff Bingaman (D-New Mexico)
Barbara Boxer (D-California)
Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia)
Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota)
Jon Corzine (D-New Jersey)
Mark Dayton (D-Minnesota)
Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)
Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin)
Bob Graham (D-Florida)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
Jim Jeffords (I-Vermont)
Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts)
Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
Carl Levin (D-Michigan)
Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland)
Patty Murray (D-Washington)
Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island)
Paul Sarbanes (D-Maryland)
Debbie Stabenow (D-Michigan)
The late Paul Wellstone (D-Minnesota)
Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)


United States House of Representatives

Six House Republicans and one independent joined 126 Democratic members of the House of Represenatives:

Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii)
Tom Allen (D-Maine)
Joe Baca (D-California)
Brian Baird (D-Washington DC)
John Baldacci (D-Maine, now governor of Maine)
Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin)
Xavier Becerra (D-California)
Earl Blumenauer (D-Oregon)
David Bonior (D-Michigan, retired from office)
Robert Brady (D-Pennsylvania)
Corinne Brown (D-Florida)
Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)
Lois Capps (D-California)
Michael Capuano (D-Massachusetts)
Benjamin Cardin (D-Maryland)
Julia Carson (D-Indiana)
William Clay, Jr. (D-Missouri)
Eva Clayton (D-North Carolina, retired from office)
James Clyburn (D-South Carolina)
Gary Condit (D-California, retired from office)
John Conyers, Jr. (D-Michigan)
Jerry Costello (D-Illinois)
William Coyne (D-Pennsylvania, retired from office)
Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland)
Susan Davis (D-California)
Danny Davis (D-Illinois)
Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon)
Diana DeGette (D-Colorado)
Bill Delahunt (D-Massachusetts)
Rosa DeLauro (D-Connecticut)
John Dingell (D-Michigan)
Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas)
Mike Doyle (D-Pennsylvania)
Anna Eshoo (D-California)
Lane Evans (D-Illinois)
Sam Farr (D-California)
Chaka Fattah (D-Pennsylvania)
Bob Filner (D-California)
Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts)
Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas)
Luis Gutierrez (D-Illinois)
Alice Hastings (D-Florida)
Earl Hilliard (D-Alabama, retired from office)
Maurice Hinchey (D-New York)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-Texas)
Rush Holt (D-New Jersey)
Mike Honda (D-California)
Darlene Hooley (D-Oregon)
Inslee
Jackson (Il.)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E.B.
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kleczka
Kucinich
LaFalce
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren
Maloney (CT)
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Menendez
Millender-McDonald
Miller
Mollohan
Moran (Va)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanchez
Sanders
Sawyer
Schakowsky
Scott
Serrano
Slaughter
Snyder
Solis
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Udall (NM)
Udall (CO)
Velazquez
Visclosky
Waters
Watson
Watt
Woolsey
Wu


Not a single Democrat who got-it-right on Iraq was appointed to a position of authority or Power in the Obama Administration.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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[AnotherMcIntosh]

19. Thank you.

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. I do believe Jon Corzine (D-New Jersey) now has other goals

altho it is amazing he has not yet been charged with investment fraud.

[azureblue]

22. Let me remind you

that Congress was also lied to. Based on what Cheney and Bush told Congress and the UN, that Saddam had WMDs, they voted for war.

[bvar22]

46. Well, that is the excuse they hide behind.

"Bush Lied to me."

Anybody who couldn't See Through the preposterous string of LIES
lacks the Judgement to hold elected office.
They KNEW, but hid behind the Bush Lies.

For GAWDS sake, Colin Powell presented [font size=3]Cartoon Drawings[/font] to the UN as "proof" that Saddam had WMDS!!!

....and you couldn't tell they made all that shit up?
[font size=1 color=gray]]Holy PT Barnum, Batman![/font]

[stevenleser]

49. Some people are too heavily invested in their revisionist history to accept the truth of what you

wrote. The other side of that is that countries like Syria, Russia, China, France, Germany, etc., all thought that Iraq had WMD and thought it a good idea to draft up fairly aggressive resolutions to try to force Iraq to accept the Weapons inspectors at the same time (within 72 hours) of when IWR was passed.

It's revisionist history to suggest "They all knew" but some folks are insistent on pushing that meme.

[harmonicon]

23. Yep. (nt)

[KoKo]

28. "The Official List! ....Thanks for the post...to refresh our memories. n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

29. And the ones that voted for war?

Ran for President and/or became Secretary of State.

War! War! War!

[truebrit71]

44. Interesting how that worked out...

..although to be fair I believe Sen Obama only voted "present" iirc...

[autorank]

36. Thanks!!! Very honorable roll, indeed

[sabrina 1]

45. Shameful, when ordinary people around the globe knew they were lying, such a small

number of our representatives had the courage to vote against those lies.

I remember reading how they had hired the Rendon Group, a PR firm run by someone named John Rendon and paid him hundreds of millions of dollars to 'sell the war' to the American people. I remember feeling repulsed at the very idea that war, slaughter and death was being 'sold' as if it was just another commodity.

I will NEVER and have NEVER supported any Democrat who voted for that criminal lie.

Her vote was what caused me not to support Hillary in the 2008 election. If she runs again, my conscience will not allow me to support her then either.

[idwiyo]

24. Wonder which country is going to shelter him from Hague. US, here he comes, I guess.

Maybe, just maybe he is going to be arrested and brought in front of ICC.

[KoKo]

25. Recommend....!

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. A few people o'er here should face that music too

[autorank]

37. They need to feel the lash

The Prosecution of George w. Bush for Murder By Vincent Bugliosi
http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/B001IWO88O

[Me.]

27. No Less So

Than the felons in the * administration.

[autorank]

38. Hey there

This will be the last place for prosecution unless it's a local DA or someone who doesn't want his job long in DoJ.

[cbrer]

39. That's because BBC reports news! nt

[just1voice]

41. Too bad they'll never be held accountable in our hypocritical empires

Of course the crimes will never go away, they never do but the criminals will escape justice. Justice isn't served in fascist countries, it's chosen.

[countryjake]

48. All I want to know, really, is when will the people of the world...

finally decide that it's time to recognize and "prosecute" that massive machine whose only intent is bent on global imperialism? I could go back for more than a century and point fingers at various individual leaders over the years, of Great Britain (and of the USA), saying that they lied, they actually knew exactly what their purposes were for interfering in Iraq, in the Middle East, proclaiming over a hundred years of heinous war crimes perpetrated against those people unfortunate enough to be born in an area that the West seeks to control.

All I can say is that we've waited ten long years for accountability. During the next ten years, I imagine that we'll begin seeing a few of these running dogs point some fingers of their own, shifting and shuffling the blame around to further confuse the issue, but conveniently postponing any revelations of truth til all of the major players are dead. Officially, there are about ten people that I wouldn't mind seeing hung for plotting the Invasion that they carried out ten years ago today and I don't even believe in the death penalty, but realistically, I don't have much hope of ever seeing those bastards answering for their crimes.

Thanks for the link to that piece, autorank. It's nice to see ya here!