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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:47 PM Mar 2013

UC Berkeley Social Survey: Americans and religion increasingly parting ways

Americans and religion increasingly parting ways, new survey shows

By Yasmin Anwar, Media Relations | March 12, 2013
BERKELEY —

Religious affiliation in the United States is at its lowest point since it began to be tracked in the 1930s, according to analysis of newly released survey data by researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, and Duke University. Last year, one in five Americans claimed they had no religious preference, more than double the number reported in 1990.

Fewer Americans affiliated with an organized religion, survey shows

UC Berkeley sociologists Mike Hout and Claude Fischer , along with Mark Chaves of Duke University, analyzed data on religious attitudes as part of the General Social Survey, a highly cited biannual poll conducted by NORC, an independent research institute at the University of Chicago.

Results of the survey – which looked at numerous issues, including attitudes about gun ownership and how tax dollars should be spent, and is funded in part by the National Science Foundation – are being released now and in coming weeks.

On American attitudes toward religion, UC Berkeley researchers found that 20 percent of a nationally representative group reported no religious preference. That’s a jump from 1990 when all but 8 percent of Americans polled identified with an organized faith.

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2013/03/12/non-believers/

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UC Berkeley Social Survey: Americans and religion increasingly parting ways (Original Post) lunatica Mar 2013 OP
One can have a sense of Spirituality without belonging to a particular Organized Religion... OneMoreDemocrat Mar 2013 #1
It's also fine to not be "spiritual" at all and not believe in deities. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #5
Does shamanism count? marions ghost Mar 2013 #2
Of course it counts libodem Mar 2013 #6
Shamanism is most definitely not organized Small Accumulates Mar 2013 #7
Agree marions ghost Mar 2013 #8
There are problems with the words we have to discuss this Small Accumulates Mar 2013 #11
Excellent marions ghost Mar 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author cbayer Mar 2013 #3
The bad politics is chasing people away. mick063 Mar 2013 #4
And it seems like the reaction libodem Mar 2013 #9
Berkley gees don't they teach and study things? Ichingcarpenter Mar 2013 #10
Do you mean you didn't learn anything with this research? lunatica Mar 2013 #13
 

OneMoreDemocrat

(913 posts)
1. One can have a sense of Spirituality without belonging to a particular Organized Religion...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:52 PM
Mar 2013

I believe in 'God', but my beliefs don't fit within any of the current major religions.

The further along we go, the less people feel comfortable within the confines and dogmas of (certainly Western) religions, and that makes perfect sense to me...the World has and is changing but they tend to stay the same.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
5. It's also fine to not be "spiritual" at all and not believe in deities.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Mar 2013

Although, I never quite know what "spiritual" is supposed to mean ...

I revere nature. If that makes me spiritual, I guess I'm spiritual ...

libodem

(19,288 posts)
6. Of course it counts
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 04:22 PM
Mar 2013

What ever gets you through the night. I personally endorse the woo.

I started long ago, say '73, with Carlos Castanada and Don Juan. Loved every darn book he wrote. Read some of them twice.

Yes, it is probably what's wrong with me.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
8. Agree
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 04:33 PM
Mar 2013

but some would say then it is not a religion (belief). Maybe a philosophy or a practice like yoga. I'm not meaning to classify it, but just hmmmm....doesn't quite fit

Small Accumulates

(149 posts)
11. There are problems with the words we have to discuss this
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 05:28 PM
Mar 2013

It is a problem that we all have different understandings of what the words mean. My experience of shamanic practice is that it's not a religion, organized or non-organized. (And working with a group of practitioners to organize a ritual or ceremony pretty much proves its dis-organization, imho. ) In my experience, shamanic practice captures the true essence of what is at the core of the world's religions. But because it is a faith of direct revelation, it can only have so little in common with the larger domains of religion--the physical structures, organizations, codifications, etc. So I often tell people that shamanism can be, and IS, a part of all religions--or none.

And I understand the dilemma you raise; I struggle with it too.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
12. Excellent
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 06:15 PM
Mar 2013

thank you. I see that--at the core of all religions but not codified. And not pantheistic in the sense of blending all religious
philosophies. Emphasis on direct experience. Focused meditation or trance invocation (for good, only for good ...working with what is. Requires unswerving faith in the existence of a world beyond but not adherence to a dogma.

Thank you for putting some words to it re. the relationship to other spirituality

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mick063

(2,424 posts)
4. The bad politics is chasing people away.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

Imposing on people's lives is a recipe for ultimate failure.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
9. And it seems like the reaction
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 04:43 PM
Mar 2013

Is for religious institutions to thrash like a drowning swimmer, and grasp and sink by clinging for dear life, to the lifeguard, until he has been drowned, too.

They won't change to become more relevant because to do so would be an admission, that the institution was not perfect in the first place.

I think there is a place for religion in celebrating the important milestones in a persons life. A public acknowledgement of christening and marriages and funerals. It fulfills a human need to mark occasions with ritual. Our rituals are important, no matter what the particular faith. All that is fine with me.

I'm just sick of hearing about the second coming, the antichrist, and the damned Apocalypse. I came for the love and forgiveness and left for the scorched earth policy. No fire and brimstone for this girl.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. Do you mean you didn't learn anything with this research?
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:10 AM
Mar 2013

Berkeley is also one of the world's foremost research institutions.

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