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(46,326 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:04 PM Mar 2013

Saddam did have WMD when we invaded Iraq!

Oliver North says so!

Fox News host Oliver North revived the discredited claim that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction to justify the American-led invasion of that country 10 years ago.

During an America's Newsroom segment on the 10-year anniversary of the Iraq war, North explained why he thought the war was "worth it," saying: "We got rid of a brutal despot who used chemical and biological weapons against his own people. Weapons of mass destruction that he probably exported to Sudan before we got there."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/03/20/foxs-oliver-north-pushes-long-debunked-wmd-cons/193152

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Saddam did have WMD when we invaded Iraq! (Original Post) Archae Mar 2013 OP
Sudan? sadbear Mar 2013 #1
No. He just 'can't recall...' Aristus Mar 2013 #17
Santorum pushed this line and got laughed at. Gothmog Mar 2013 #2
Saddam should have said something. onehandle Mar 2013 #3
Why the hell anyone with an COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #4
Well, if the Mute Marine says it, it must be so. n/t winter is coming Mar 2013 #5
So Saddam's nefarious plot... lefty_mcduff Mar 2013 #6
We know he had chemical weapons because we sold them to him Recursion Mar 2013 #7
Ollie, Ollie, Ollie, if so, from whom would Saddam have gotten those chemical and biological indepat Mar 2013 #8
On SkyNews (UK) this morning, Baroness Nicholson (LibDem) asserted that Saddam... SwissTony Mar 2013 #9
I remember debating (well, arguing, actually) with a guy once deutsey Mar 2013 #10
License plate, Hell! They can read the date on a nickel louis-t Mar 2013 #18
Yes, I remember Politicalboi Mar 2013 #11
Sure he did .... in 1990. baldguy Mar 2013 #12
Hahahahaaa! Fox News? Rider3 Mar 2013 #13
Did Saddam Hussein Gas His Own People? Life Long Dem Mar 2013 #14
let's not forget that it's possible the repugs samsingh Mar 2013 #15
Know which right wing/fox news lie I hate the most? louis-t Mar 2013 #16
WMDs? Coming from a convicted (and pardoned) liar? Eugene Mar 2013 #19
Ollie is a treasonous fuck with no morals, ethics or decency Taverner Mar 2013 #20
Disgrace to the USMC......... nt Ernesto Mar 2013 #21
And of course he fails to mention... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #22
He committed treason. He lied before Congress. He's a war criminal. talkingmime Mar 2013 #23

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
1. Sudan?
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:05 PM
Mar 2013

I thought the official right-wing/fox news explanation was a different S-country: Syria.

Is Ollie getting mixed up?

Gothmog

(145,162 posts)
2. Santorum pushed this line and got laughed at.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:06 PM
Mar 2013

This lie has been debunked and only an idiot like Ollie North or Rick Santorum would be pushing this type of BS

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Saddam should have said something.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:06 PM
Mar 2013

Come out and said, 'Please don't invade us. Sudan has the WMDs. Invade them.'

Stupid Saddam.

Clearly, the Iraq war was his fault.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
4. Why the hell anyone with an
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:07 PM
Mar 2013

I.Q. greater than a box of rocks would listen to what this convicted perjurer has to say about anything is beyond me.

lefty_mcduff

(1,430 posts)
6. So Saddam's nefarious plot...
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:08 PM
Mar 2013

...involved stockpiling WMD for years, then sending them to another country when he was actually under attack? Why, that's brilliant!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. We know he had chemical weapons because we sold them to him
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:10 PM
Mar 2013

That was the big lie of "WMD": conflating the possession of some chemical agents with building a nuclear bomb.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
8. Ollie, Ollie, Ollie, if so, from whom would Saddam have gotten those chemical and biological
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:13 PM
Mar 2013

weapons? Wonder what had prompted that infamous Rummy-Saddam handshake?

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
9. On SkyNews (UK) this morning, Baroness Nicholson (LibDem) asserted that Saddam...
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:18 PM
Mar 2013

had buried WMD in the southern marshlands and had witnesses to prove it.

She claims to have wonderful contacts with the marsh Arabs (and this seems to be true via Google). She also said this 10 years agp. So it should be no problem...

Ten years later...nada, nix. But she still maintains it.

Sorry, no link - it was live TV.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
10. I remember debating (well, arguing, actually) with a guy once
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:18 PM
Mar 2013

about the missing WMDs and he said this same thing to explain why they were missing.

When I pointed out that we have surveillance satellites that can take a picture of a car's license plate, so why didn't they detect convoys moving the WMDs, he said Saddam had an underground railway system.

The ignorance was deep with that one.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
18. License plate, Hell! They can read the date on a nickel
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

laying on the sidewalk. At least, that's my favorite line about the state of modern surveillance.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
11. Yes, I remember
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:18 PM
Mar 2013

Seeing on the news men moving huge objects from Saddam's garage to the guy in Sudan's garage.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
14. Did Saddam Hussein Gas His Own People?
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:20 PM
Mar 2013
No doubt, Saddam has mistreated Kurds during his rule. But it's misleading to say, so simply and without context, that he killed his own people by gassing 5,000 Kurds at Halabja.

The New York Times published an opinion piece by Stephen C. Pelletiere, the CIA's senior political analyst on Iraq during the 1980s.

In the article, Pelletiere said the only thing known for certain was that "Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi chemical weapons killed the Kurds."

Pelletiere said the gassing occurred during a battle between Iraqis and Iranians.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1779.htm

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
15. let's not forget that it's possible the repugs
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:21 PM
Mar 2013

sold the wmd to the Iraqi madman in the 1980s.

rumsfield and north were part of that group if I recall

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
16. Know which right wing/fox news lie I hate the most?
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:22 PM
Mar 2013

"he used chemical weapons against his own people"

1. He used chemical weapons against Iran. Iranians are not his own people.

2. He used chemical weapons against the Kurds (Iranian origin) in northern Iraq who have been there for 4,000 years, long before the British invented the country of Iraq.
Again, not his own people.

3. The US government, aka Donny Rumsfeld, Cheeney, Raygun, Bush, et al, sold Saddam the precursors for chemical weapons.

Ollie, the talking points have been discredited for years now. Where you been? Asleep?

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
20. Ollie is a treasonous fuck with no morals, ethics or decency
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:33 PM
Mar 2013

He should be serving time at Angola right now...

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
22. And of course he fails to mention...
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 04:38 PM
Mar 2013

...that the chemical / biological weapons that Saddam is known to have used on his own people, were supplied by none other than the good ol' USofA. But that was back in the day, when he was our friend. At the time it happened, we averted our eyes.

Oliver North, what a scumbag.

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