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Looks like the CEO of Komen Breast Cancer is trying to whitewash the conflict. (Original Post) LiberalFighter Feb 2012 OP
I know she's getting nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #1
That's what I'm hearing, too. n/t dmr Feb 2012 #2
Not even Andrea is buying this BS. stranger81 Feb 2012 #3
She's blaming PP's reporting procedures justiceischeap Feb 2012 #4
I suppose Komen could have pre-empted PP's voice and announced first. Sheepshank Feb 2012 #21
what happened to the congressional investigation bullshit? rurallib Feb 2012 #50
Oh for heaven's sake. She's pulling all this out of her butt. n/t dmr Feb 2012 #5
Yes she is n/t Serial Mom Feb 2012 #10
she said the feedback they're getting is overwhelmingly favorable fishwax Feb 2012 #6
It is, because they keep deleting the negative comments justiceischeap Feb 2012 #9
they must employ a full time deleter fishwax Feb 2012 #16
@komenforthecure can't delete our tweets, though. EFerrari Feb 2012 #22
The right has a huge army of sockpuppets out there. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #41
I am watching this segment, I was not aware of all of the facts until this interview and now am Pisces Feb 2012 #7
They no longer need to educate, but now follow up on clinical care. Good grief. dmr Feb 2012 #8
wtf?! dana_b Feb 2012 #38
Here's a link to the interview dmr Feb 2012 #48
I'll put on my Docs dana_b Feb 2012 #54
Thank you Senator Boxer! Laurian Feb 2012 #11
She was very defensive with Andrea Mitchell. madaboutharry Feb 2012 #12
Indignant. Now she & Komens will go into the self-righteous mode dmr Feb 2012 #14
She already played the victim inearlier remarks Serial Mom Feb 2012 #25
perhaps if she would have put her brain into the fucking organization... WCGreen Feb 2012 #40
Too little, too late. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #13
I'd like to know what kind of results they have done the past 30 years in the field of Breast Cancer LynneSin Feb 2012 #17
There was a thread here the other day with kind of an "expose" -- gateley Feb 2012 #19
Did you find it? dmr Feb 2012 #30
mois two. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #37
No -- but I found this gateley Feb 2012 #47
No, there were a zillion DU/Komen threads on Google, so I went looking elsewhere gateley Feb 2012 #46
The last 30 years... tsuki Feb 2012 #26
I sort of agree as of late. kenfrequed Feb 2012 #34
Couldn't find the specific thread, but did find this: gateley Feb 2012 #39
Thank you. Maybe later we'll find the other info dmr Feb 2012 #55
It should generate a Congressional inquiry Horse with no Name Feb 2012 #23
If SGK is under federal investigation... SidDithers Feb 2012 #31
Twould be a quite the slickery slope eh? n/t Horse with no Name Feb 2012 #49
lol obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #56
What a bunch of double talk. wilsonbooks Feb 2012 #15
Pinkwash nt LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #18
All I heard was her saying the move wasn't political. Oh, please. nt gateley Feb 2012 #20
That hit me too. I am really struggling Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #24
apply this scenario to the larger picture, and I suspect you will see the ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #27
I keep wondering if this isn't a ploy of some sort for Nov 2012 justiceischeap Feb 2012 #28
Its the larger picture that is so problematic. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #29
This will hit poor women of color the hardest. EFerrari Feb 2012 #32
But it is having a boomerang effect Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #35
Maybe they decided people will give this once EFerrari Feb 2012 #42
Not sure about Safeway Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #52
Great way to Protest - Dollars lyonn Feb 2012 #43
I think they thought no one would notice...nt joeybee12 Feb 2012 #33
Agreed, it is suicidal. But then, so are the entire anti-labor moves ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #36
Sorry, can't agree it's suicidal Serial Mom Feb 2012 #51
I cannot argue with a single point you make. But, ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #53
How did she get this gig? I read where she's a BIG GOPer and a frothing-at-the-mouth gateley Feb 2012 #45
She's not with Planned Parenthood, she's with Komen obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #57
Thanks for the clarification. I've been mushing them together in my mind all day long! nt gateley Feb 2012 #58
Video here - added link with Murray and Boxer suffragette Feb 2012 #44

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
4. She's blaming PP's reporting procedures
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:41 PM
Feb 2012

The one thing I kept taking away from the interview is, if they are so concerned about the reporting procedures, shouldn't they work with their PARTNER to make sure they meet those needs instead of telling them to take a hike?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
21. I suppose Komen could have pre-empted PP's voice and announced first.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:00 PM
Feb 2012

I wonder how much of a difference that would have made?

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
9. It is, because they keep deleting the negative comments
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:43 PM
Feb 2012

and all the positive comments are coming from anti-choicer's.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
16. they must employ a full time deleter
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:50 PM
Feb 2012


She had a real deer-in-the-headlights look at times in that Andrea Mitchell interview.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
41. The right has a huge army of sockpuppets out there.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:53 PM
Feb 2012

No doubt they're carpet-bombing the Komen site with their "positive" comments.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
7. I am watching this segment, I was not aware of all of the facts until this interview and now am
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:42 PM
Feb 2012

furious with Susan G Komen. It seems a direct result by a new conservative that joined the organization. The Komen foundation will receive zero from me and it is disgusting how politics is affecting the lives of poor women.

Republicans really do not care about poor people. Poor women are last on the totem pole.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
8. They no longer need to educate, but now follow up on clinical care. Good grief.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:43 PM
Feb 2012

I hope someone transcribes this bs.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
48. Here's a link to the interview
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:09 PM
Feb 2012
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/46240278/#46240278

MSNBC already had it transcribed, this is her double talking on education:

... all we're doing is explaining, again, to our mission, what the criteria for new grants and community-based grants are, for our organization, for the time we are. many of the grants were education oriented. we don't need to do that kind of education anymore. we've done it for 30 years. now we need to translate this care into usable clinical care in communities. that means that if a person's screened, we need to follow. we need to follow-up the screening. did something happen. once they go through the planned parenthood program, they also have to come to us for additional therapy and care. we are trying to advise our community grant program. and we're doing it, and they've been a longtime partner of ours, we've notified them of this change, and frankly, we've been very private about it. and we have not said that we won't accept grants who meet our criteria.


I suppose young girls won't be growing up to be young women who may need breast health education.
You might want to wear your boots listening to this.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
11. Thank you Senator Boxer!
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:45 PM
Feb 2012

For calling out Brinker's attemp to re-write/revise the reasons for defunding PP.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
12. She was very defensive with Andrea Mitchell.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:46 PM
Feb 2012

Actually, she sounded angry that people were calling Komen out on this. Maybe they thought no one would notice.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
14. Indignant. Now she & Komens will go into the self-righteous mode
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:50 PM
Feb 2012

That's how the Republican's do things. When they're caught with their pants down they blame the other side.

Serial Mom

(2,256 posts)
25. She already played the victim inearlier remarks
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:08 PM
Feb 2012

"The scurrilous accusations being hurled at this organization are profoundly hurtful to so many of us who've put our heart, soul and lives into this organization. More importantly, they are a dangerous distraction from the work that still remains to be done in ridding the world of breast cancer."

Oh poor Brinker.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
40. perhaps if she would have put her brain into the fucking organization...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:50 PM
Feb 2012

She would have realized don't piss off one of the most venerable of women's organizations in the country.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
13. Too little, too late.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:49 PM
Feb 2012

I predict that the wall of bad publicity will collapse on them just like the tsunami in Wisconsin, after Gov. Wanker pulled his shit on an unsuspecting state.

From this moment, EVERY step they took in the past will be under a microscope. 70 Millions a year in administrative fees? Greater than what they spent in research? Millions for the top people's salaries? questionable reporting on their returns? That will garner some GREAT reactions from at least half the population (and quite a few conservatives, as well)

When it rains, it pours. I say bring those storm clouds on.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
17. I'd like to know what kind of results they have done the past 30 years in the field of Breast Cancer
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:52 PM
Feb 2012

Because all I see they do is promote alot of pink junk.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
46. No, there were a zillion DU/Komen threads on Google, so I went looking elsewhere
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:03 PM
Feb 2012

and found this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=258051

I did see posts saying she was a GOPer and rabid anti-abortionist, though.

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
26. The last 30 years...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:24 PM
Feb 2012

incidence has increased from 1 in 20 to 1 in 8

we still do not know what causes breast cancer

we still treat it the same way we did 30 years ago, cut, radiate and poison

Other than that, we have made great strides.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
34. I sort of agree as of late.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:43 PM
Feb 2012

Barbara Ehrenreich put a chapter on their business practice and motivational salesmanship on this in one of her books.

http://www.barbaraehrenreich.com/cancerland.htm

gateley

(62,683 posts)
39. Couldn't find the specific thread, but did find this:
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:49 PM
Feb 2012

From 2004 to 2009, Komen allocated a total of $1.54 Billion of “Net Public Support and Revenue” of in the following categories: Education 36%; Research 25%, Administration and Fundraising Expenses 22%; Screening 11%, and Treatment 6%. See pie chart below.


http://gaylesulik.com/2011/01/komen-by-the-numbers/


dmr

(28,347 posts)
55. Thank you. Maybe later we'll find the other info
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 09:41 PM
Feb 2012

I saw something on Facebook last night, but can't find that one either. Wish I would've bookmarked it.

If I find it, I'll pm you with the link.

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)
15. What a bunch of double talk.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:50 PM
Feb 2012

Looks like the pressure is really getting to her. What she said they did bears no relationship to what they did.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
24. That hit me too. I am really struggling
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:06 PM
Feb 2012

with the concept of Komen taking this political. They didn't need to go there. I mean, to what end?

Now, people of all stripes who walked in the annual Race for the Cure are being put into a position of politics over health. They are also inviting deep dives into their financials where they had the veneer of trust previously (which is not a bad thing, IMO, but they are bringing the heat on themselves).

My mind is just really struggling trying to wrap around the decision to go all bore wingnut, destroy their name and their brand - and without any potential upside in the mix.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
27. apply this scenario to the larger picture, and I suspect you will see the
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:24 PM
Feb 2012

result this coming November.

The further reich these assholes go, the more crap they pile on the unsuspecting, and the more rightwing their policies, the more wonderful the ultimate reaction will be.

Already, the richest in Davos realize that austerity has a hidden cost - ie, major unrest in formerly peaceful countries. They realize that ALEC and other ultra conservative moves are fucking the lives of millions and finally, the millions are reacting much as you would expect. They tried to tell Wall Street, but those arrogant assholes don't listen to anyone. They tried to warn some of the richest supporters of GOP candidates, but we see how well that worked, with millions upon millions being invested in an ever more conservative message.

There will be a revolution. A political one, aimed squarely at the tea baggers and their masters.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
28. I keep wondering if this isn't a ploy of some sort for Nov 2012
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:29 PM
Feb 2012

Trying to get their voters to the polls because using the gay marriage issue isn't working any more so they're resurrecting abortion while throwing a different group of women under the bus.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
29. Its the larger picture that is so problematic.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:30 PM
Feb 2012

As long as they appeared neutral, they had the support of the entire nation. I mean, who is going to say a bad word against the pink ribbon people?

Now, they have drawn a line in the sand, destroyed their carefully crafted and executed brand and could find themselves out of business and quickly.

I get MAD, but this isn't bi-directional, its suicidal.

In the big picture - what do they have to gain from this?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
35. But it is having a boomerang effect
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:44 PM
Feb 2012

donations are pouring into PP right now and people of all colors are pissed. Did they honestly not anticipate the backlash?

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
42. Maybe they decided people will give this once
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:54 PM
Feb 2012

and then forget about it.

This so evil. Are these the people that had Safeway asking for donations at checkout?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
52. Not sure about Safeway
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:43 PM
Feb 2012

but I have a feeling this isn't going to go away.

I honestly think they are in shock at the backlash and their ham-fisted reactions to it are just making it worse.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
36. Agreed, it is suicidal. But then, so are the entire anti-labor moves
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:46 PM
Feb 2012

being pushed in Wisconsin, AZ, Ohio, PA, and other states. Did they really think that people would not notice, especially the conservative rocks of labor (fire, police, national guard, sanitary workers, etc?) All those folks tended to vote R, but now, as they see their own futures at stake, their realization (and mighty quick education) is a real shock.

I think they realized that Obama was a mobilizing force that constituted a clear and pleasant danger to their money stored nests. Their reaction was to fight and squeeze and push and lie and cheat to cement one last gain for corporations and rich people. But by going too far, they have cut off their noses to spite their faces.

Even worse, the whole "Anti-government" movement, ie federal government can do no right, and private is always better than public, has come and bit many of them in the ass. The lies on the right are finally becoming visible, despite the Rushes, Seans, Billos and other radioheads.

Serial Mom

(2,256 posts)
51. Sorry, can't agree it's suicidal
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:38 PM
Feb 2012

Most of us who are angry are "peons " to them, the 1% and those conglomerates that raise money for them by selling the "pink" item's.

Money and I mean BIG money is coming from the religious conservatives who only push what they want. After all, God wanted them to be rich - they are against abortions cause when we die early of diseases, they will need supply of slaves.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
53. I cannot argue with a single point you make. But,
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 05:07 PM
Feb 2012

each person has only one vote. For months now, I have detected a very perceptible shift in a bloc of voters that have always voted conservatively. A lot of them are clients. And a growing number of them cannot stand what they see on the right this year. They actually tell me (knowing of my liberal proclivities) that they cannot vote GOP this year.

Money can sway people only to some extent. After a while, they still see the light.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
45. How did she get this gig? I read where she's a BIG GOPer and a frothing-at-the-mouth
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:01 PM
Feb 2012

anti-abortion whack. That just doesn't seem RIGHT that she could be affiliated with such a stellar organization as Planned Parenthood.

I think the upside will be support of the RW, perhaps more grants?

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
57. She's not with Planned Parenthood, she's with Komen
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 09:53 PM
Feb 2012

The CEO and Founder if Komen is a rabid RWer. The new VP of Policy is even worse.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
44. Video here - added link with Murray and Boxer
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:57 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/susan-g-komen-founder-tells-shocked-and-angered-andrea-mitchell-they-didnt-de-fund-planned-parenthoo/


Sounds like she's scrambling to come up with other reasons for the defunding. The one about Planned Parenthood not meeting new metrics and measurements for grants is absurd on its face since there's no doubt Planned Parenthood would have the numbers of women they provided actual services to.



http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/02/10301612-under-fire-komen-ceo-denies-politics-in-planned-parenthood-cuts


http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/46240395/#46240395

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