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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:08 AM Mar 2013

Rep. Young ‘Meant No Disrespect’ By ‘Wetbacks’ Remark

Non-apology apology typical from GOPers.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rep-young-meant-no-disrespect-by-wetbacks-remark

Rep. Don Young (R-AK) released a statement Thursday that said he "meant no disrespect" by referring to farm workers on his father's ranch as "wetbacks."

"During a sit down interview with Ketchikan Public Radio this week, I used a term that was commonly used during my days growing up on a farm in Central California," Young said, according to the Anchorage Daily News. "I know that this term is not used in the same way nowadays and I meant no disrespect."

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Rep. Young ‘Meant No Disrespect’ By ‘Wetbacks’ Remark (Original Post) deminks Mar 2013 OP
So, no apology necessary, I guess. Scuba Mar 2013 #1
He meant it just as he said it... pipoman Mar 2013 #2
There are places it wasn't a slur ag_dude Mar 2013 #3
It has ALWAYS been a slur CBGLuthier Mar 2013 #4
Where you live. ag_dude Mar 2013 #5
what region is that? datasuspect Mar 2013 #16
A region where there are lots of bigots? joeybee12 Mar 2013 #19
if you don't see the difference between an hispanic person using the word bowens43 Mar 2013 #8
Yeah, because the hispanics didn't hire them, right? It was only old redneck fucks. ag_dude Mar 2013 #10
It is a slur, has always been a slur rurallib Mar 2013 #11
sure has. I am a third generation anglo Texan and it was slur in the 50s CTyankee Mar 2013 #13
Yeah, and people would have argued pipoman Mar 2013 #9
bullshit datasuspect Mar 2013 #15
ROFLMAO!!! ' I meant no disrespect' bowens43 Mar 2013 #6
Don Young, dumber than a fencepost . . . . hatrack Mar 2013 #7
The point is Shankapotomus Mar 2013 #12
"a term that was commonly used" by racists and bigots. TeamPooka Mar 2013 #14
He should be highly pressured to resign his office immediately. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #17
I'm from California, and have lived in the Central Valley and near there all my life senseandsensibility Mar 2013 #18
Macaca ver 2013 lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #20
Except that he wasn't talking about his past state of mind aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2013 #21
Later in the day at a "Choose Respect" rally in Juneau calling attention to domestic violence, Blue_In_AK Mar 2013 #22
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
2. He meant it just as he said it...
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:11 AM
Mar 2013

it is a slur, it was a slur when he was growing up and it is still a slur..

ag_dude

(562 posts)
3. There are places it wasn't a slur
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:41 AM
Mar 2013

Around here in the 80s even hispanics used the word.

Wetback was the standard of hard work at that time.

The first time I ever heard that it might be offensive was in a class made up of about 60/40 hispanics/whites in the late 80s when one girl said it was offensive. The rest of the class said she was full of it.

I'm not sure when its widespread use stopped, sometime in the 90s I think, but to claim it's always been the word it is now is disingenuous.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. It has ALWAYS been a slur
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:43 AM
Mar 2013

You may think it was not a slur but it sure as fuck was a slur in the 80's where I live.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
5. Where you live.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:48 AM
Mar 2013

You say that like it's an absolute.

The person I remember saying it the most was a hispanic guy whose father was a first generation American who used it just as much.

I thought the fact that the subject of my post made it clear that I was speaking in a regional context.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
16. what region is that?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:14 PM
Mar 2013

some magic happy land where latinos embrace the term wetback?

where is this region?

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
8. if you don't see the difference between an hispanic person using the word
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:58 AM
Mar 2013

and some old redneck fuck who hires them and uses them as farm machinery using it then you just don't get.

"Wetback was the standard of hard work at that time" ???????

bullshit


"I'm not sure when its widespread use stopped" when we grew up......

it stopped because it is DEROGATORY. It stopped for the same reason that ni**er is not acceptable.

Unbelievable.....

ag_dude

(562 posts)
10. Yeah, because the hispanics didn't hire them, right? It was only old redneck fucks.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:02 AM
Mar 2013

And you think you have grounds to talk down to others.

You guys don't have to believe it, I realize this isn't a place where people would accept that times change and a word could have a different meaning today than it did 30 years ago.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. sure has. I am a third generation anglo Texan and it was slur in the 50s
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:41 PM
Mar 2013

when I was growing up and it's a slur now...

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
9. Yeah, and people would have argued
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:58 AM
Mar 2013

that pollock, n...r, spick, and every other slur wasn't a slur too. People use slurs to dehumanize people who are different than themselves. It is easier to belittle a wetback than a human or a person. No, it has always been a slur just like all of the others..of coarse you are welcome to pretend it isn't/wasn't if it makes you feel better about yourself..

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
7. Don Young, dumber than a fencepost . . . .
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:58 AM
Mar 2013

Some years back, when Robert Mapplethorpe was still alive (and hotly controversial), here's what Rep. Young declared for the ages when someone asked him to chime in on said controversy:

"Butt-fucking? You call that art?"

Please note that Don Young posed this rhetorical question was in front of an auditorium of high school students.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
12. The point is
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:34 AM
Mar 2013

he said it today, in this age. When anyone paying attention knows it's a slur.

So all we have is another GOPer living in the past and out of touch with today's world.

That is not someone we want to vote into any office.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
17. He should be highly pressured to resign his office immediately.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:19 PM
Mar 2013

When we let this shit slide by, they get away with it.

Clearly a raging racist who has slurred a large segment of good Americans including our troops and children and those Latinos who have contributed so much to our nation.

He needs to be pressured to resign. Immediately.

senseandsensibility

(17,026 posts)
18. I'm from California, and have lived in the Central Valley and near there all my life
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:33 PM
Mar 2013

EVERYONE, including my parents' generation, born in the twenties and thirties, knew that that term was offensive. They knew that even in the sixties.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
20. Macaca ver 2013
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:47 PM
Mar 2013



Stand by for the rethuglican idea of an apology " If anyone was offended ... " .


That's the best they can ever do.


aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
21. Except that he wasn't talking about his past state of mind
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:53 PM
Mar 2013

He wasn't describing himself sitting in a field at the age of nine, reminiscing about how he said to himself "look at my daddy's wetbacks go." He was contrasting past picking methods to the more mechanized ones of today and expressing his present state of mind.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
22. Later in the day at a "Choose Respect" rally in Juneau calling attention to domestic violence,
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:01 PM
Mar 2013

Don Young had this to say:

"Watch the alcohol and the drugs," Young said from a podium on the Capitol steps. "You look at the relationship between violence against the loved ones you love, (it) is usually related to either one of those. And I'm going to suggest for those that may be drinking together -- Stop it! If you want to drink by yourself, you may do it. But when you drink together, the possibility of harm becomes greater every day."




Cue George Thorogood. "You know, when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself."






Sad to say that some people in Alaska will keep on voting for Don Young because they'd rather die than vote for a Democrat.

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