North Korea attacks South Korea in a full scale attack meant to unite Korea under North Korean rule

[BrentWil]

You are President Obama. What do you do?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Brent realize this question right now might raise blood pressures

The plan is in place, you can bet on it. The President will call the principals and likely sign off on operational plans that already exist that take into account many variables.

Sequester or not, you can bet on three battle groups and strategic bombers from both Dieho Garcia and the US mainland. That was the reason for the B-2 exercise the other day.

I will wait for other answers.

[BrentWil]

2. I am sure the plans are in place...

As they should be. We should support a alley who gets attacked. In this case, you might be surprised who else supports South Korea. I would not be surprised if the North actually did this, CHina would cut them off and allow the South to unify Korea under one rule.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Given these mornings Xinxua statement

China wants a return to the tripartite talks that have been on ice for a while. The rest of it was pro forma.

As to plans, we have plans for everything, including invading Canada...

If you have time, read on Plan Black (Caribbean Naval operations) and Plan Orange (the Pacific) both done in the 1930s. Moving assets to Pearl right before Pearl was part of late versions of them.

Something similar is going on right now.

Now if war explodes, china will either stay quiet, go for it, bleed yourself white US...or the PAL will come in. It's unclear what side right now. Beijing is having transition issues as well.

[BrentWil]

7. Yeah, no one wants war there...

Would be awful. No one gains. China is actually rather rational in their stance. They have been trying to get North Korea to follow their path of economic development. North Korea needs a Deng Xiaoping

[pangaia]

62. Good points.

I might add that NK needs the moderate side of Deng.

Maybe better, Zhou En Lai.

[Dash87]

3. The Obama Admin is just going to throw some food and supplies at them like usual. Life will go on.

[Posteritatis]

17. I *really* doubt that will be the response to an invasion. (nt)

[Dash87]

18. Oh no - I just mean there won't be an invasion. NK just wants food and supplies.

[cherokeeprogressive]

55. I'd have to agree with this and have stated as much... BUT

The first thing everyone needs to take into account are the 28,500 servicemen and women AND their families.

Bag up some wheat, print some money and send it over there... problem solved is what I think. It's not like we haven't been through this before with NK.

[SQUEE]

72. No families

except VERY rare cases, Korea is a hardship deployment, and dependents stay CONUS.

[GP6971]

81. The number of Command Sponsored tours

(Accompanied Tours) is actually increasing for more and more soldiers. Not so rare anymore with the exception of the lower enlisted ranks. Still, not everyone granted is these tours and the number of unaccompanied tours far outnumbers accompanied tours.

[SQUEE]

82. I stand corrected.

It has been awhile since my time up in Indian Head..

[GP6971]

84. I'm up there about

once a year. My son was with the 2ID for two tours and I was up there a couple of times in the late 80s. Just as tense today as it was back then

[quaker bill]

5. There are reasons I would never want that job

and this would be one. Bonhoffer once posed the question, if as a pacifist you come to know that someone will commit mass murder and you alone have an opportunity to prevent it with violence, what do you do? Do you remain personally pure at the cost of thousands of lives? Or do you act?

I have never had to truly answer the question, so I do not know the answer personally.

What will the President do? I am pretty sure that the response will be immediate, large, and will leave no one guessing.

[pangaia]

63. H H the Dalai Lama has an interesting view on this question.

[Niceguy1]

6. honor our treaties and defend our troops

That were just attacked in your scenario by fighting back....

[craigmatic]

8. Cut a deal that keeps the Chinese uninvolved, issue a deadline for them to withdraw, get UN support

, and finally go in and push them out of they refuse to leave.

[BrentWil]

11. You already have UN support...

THe peace treaty was never signed for the original Korean war. If war starts, they are already in violation of a UN resolution.

[craigmatic]

12. Oh yeah I forgot about that. One less step then. The most important thing is keeping the Chinese

neutral or on our side. Who else would be the North Korean's allies? You would think Cuba but I've never found anything that said they were even closely tied.

[Jamastiene]

92. That is the issue.

If we fight North Korea, we will be also fighting about a billion Chinese soldiers too. They can just outlast us and win. It is an impossible scenario when it comes to violence. The only real way to deal with this successfully is make damn sure China agrees with whatever nonviolent action is taken. Otherwise, we would really be fighting China too.

[premium]

95. I highly doubt that if NK attacks and invades SK,

that China will jump in with troops. This isn't the China of the 1950's, this is a modern China who is more about business than conflict.
China is starting to grow weary of supporting a failed state like NK.

There's a great book you ought to read, it's called Red Phoenix, written by Larry Bond.
It deals with a full out invasion of SK by NK and Russia and China's response to it.

It was written in 1989, but alot of it would still apply.

[Jamastiene]

99. If America got involved, I truly believe China would too.

You may be right about a war just between NK and SK, but if America got involved, I truly believe China would jump in too. That is why I think America should not get involved, unless it is to help find a nonviolent solution.

[premium]

100. The only way China would involve combat troops is if we attacked NK.

At least, that's by belief.

[Jamastiene]

102. Do you think they would see us fighting with SK against NK as

us attacking NK? I do.

[premium]

104. Not really.

China is very pragmatic, they don't want to lose their largest trading partner by killing US troops, what I think they'll do is work behind the scenes to end the war as quickly as possible in the best terms for them.

Read the book Red Pheonix, very eye opening with regards to China and how they would deal with just such a situation.

[MidwestTransplant]

109. Not a chance, but I am sure that is a contingency for which preparations are made.

China could mass troops on their border but that would be to keep the refugees out.

[bluedigger]

9. Execute one of the 100 contingency plans in place at DOD.

Whichever one seems most appropriate to the developing situation. We haven't kept a division of troops over there for 60 years just to sit on their thumbs if shit goes down.

[GeoWilliam750]

10. Your headline

Caused my heart to skip a beat

[Earth_First]

31. Same here... n/t

[Spider Jerusalem]

13. Emergency meeting of the National Security Council and diplomatic negotiations with China and Russia

first of all. Inform the Chinese and Russians (who are the regional powers in the area and both share a border with North Korea) that the United States has no option but to fulfil its treaty obligations to its South Korean ally, and that US military operations in response to North Korea's aggression should not in any sense be construed as implying any overt or tacit aggression to either China or Russia. Give the Chinese 24 hours to get NK to call a ceasefire (as their mediation is more likely to bear fruit than any direct approach) and agree to diplomacy and withdrawal of their forces. If that's not forthcoming, then strategic bombing to disrupt NK's command and control and logistics, and reinforcement of troops already present in South Korea. (Which is an absolute worst case scenario; DoD estimates of the cost of war on the Korean Peninsula almost 20 years ago were over a million casualties and trillions in economic costs.)

[BrentWil]

15. South Korea will have the problem solved by the time you get around to doing something....

As long as China stays out, SOuth Korea is fully capable of handling the North. With us, it is no match.

The North is a hollow state. It is a huge assumption to think such a hollow state can actually sustain a war. North Korea would collapse pretty quickly...

The question is what to do then.

[edhopper]

28. This

S Korea (with the aid of our bases there) is well equipped to stop the N Koreans.
I think the big danger is rocket attacks on civilians.
Hopefully Kim understands that an attack would open N Korea to a counterattack which will overthrow his regime and free the people of N Korea.

[premium]

30. I had the opportunity to watch S. Korean soldiers in action in Vietnam,

they were probably the toughest soldiers in the war.
I suspect that your right, the ROK Army, Navy, and Air Force would hand N.K. a stinging defeat unless N.K. decided to pop a nuke, then, at that point, all bets are off.

[11 Bravo]

47. I had that same opportunity. No doubt about it, the ROKs were some of the baddest ...

boys on the block. NOBODY fucked with them!

[premium]

48. The NVA and VC had the highest respect for their fighting abilities,

and feared them the most.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. I give it a week

I know I am nice.

After that we will have a heck of a humanitarian crisis...hey China, Russia, wanna help?

[SteveG]

24. You won't have 24 hours

if the North attacks, their first act will be to bombard Seoul with thousands of artillery shells, the South and the U.S. will have to retaliate immediately in order to keep Seoul from being completely destroyed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Meeting yes

Telling both China and Russia over emergency phones yes.

We move with or without their tacit agreement. US forces are under attack at the DMZ. We can't wait for China to talk to Uncle Kim and talk him off the ledge.

I am sure those emergency communications are part of the plan.

[creeksneakers2]

115. Would there be time for all that?

From what I've read, North Korea could kill 10s of thousands in under an hour.

[sarisataka]

14. Have a drink...

it will be the last one for a while

[Douglas Carpenter]

16. we all know what would happen..but it is not nice to think about

we can only pray that the latest great leader is only pretending to be crazy - which I think is almost certainly the case

[Johonny]

19. put some money on Syracuse

[Jamastiene]

20. Ask Congress who wants to intervene and send troops over there to help South Korea out.

Anyone who votes Yea has to get fitted for uniform and begin basic training.

And send all the damn Republicans over there by default, except that one pro gay marriage guy. We'll keep him for a little while to marvel at the fact that a Republican can actually evolve.

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. 28, 500 Servicemen and Women AND their families in SK.

They will either die fighting for their lives or become prisoners of a mad dictator. Your first instinct is to play party politics.

Cool.

[Jamastiene]

97. Actually, bring them home.

Just send any Congress members who want to go to war over there. That's my point. It would be stupid to go to war with them. If America got involved in that conflict, we would also be fighting a billion Chinese soldiers too. And if America got involved, China would too.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

21. Turn it over to the UN.

[BrentWil]

22. And you already have authorization of force...

Do we aid the UN in a UN sanctioned mission?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

52. No. Assuming that the UN authorizes militaray action.

Which, considering the makeup of the security council, China and/or Russia would probably veto.

[BrentWil]

56. One

One, they wouldn't if N. Korea attacked. Second, the UN resolution from the 1950s are still in effect.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

58. Which doesn't mean we have to participate in the violence.

If the Russians, Chinese, etc are foolish enough to entangle themselves in a civil war, it doesn't mean we have to. Especially, considering our experiences in doing so.

[stevenleser]

112. Our bases are minutes from the border and would receive artillery fire. We participate automatically

that is not an option.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. Already a UN police Action

Security council resolution to authorize force was given after grand dad pulled that stunt.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

53. Which doesn't mean we would have to participate if they decided to use it.

[premium]

57. Why wouldn't we participate?

We have a defense treaty with SK and we would be expected to honor it.
Also, the UN's authorization for use of force is still in effect.

Make no mistake, if NK attacked SK, President Obama would authorize offensive combat actions against NK.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

59. Because it's a dumb idea to get involved in civil wars.

See Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Laos, Cambodia, for precedents.

[premium]

60. Civil war?

Where do you get civil war from?
These are 2 separate, sovereign nations, it would be a brutal, murderous, dictatorship country trying to take over a thriving democracy by force of arms.
And, I might add, you'll find very few SK citizens who want to be ruled by the likes of NK.

Like I said, if NK attacked SK, President Obama wouldn't hesitate to honor our defense treaty with SK and he would have the support of the american people.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

64. Koreans fighting Koreans in Korea. Yeah, I think that would qualify as a civil war.

What possible business of ours to get involved in a local fight? The last time we fought in Korea we got stopped by China at great cost to all sides. What would be the point of repeating past mistakes?

[premium]

66. Every nation in the world, except of course N. Korea,

recognize S. Korea as a sovereign nation, therefore, it wouldn't be a civil war, it would be a war of aggression by N. Korea.
What leads you to believe that China would get involved this time?
There are growing signs that China is growing weary of NK's crap and the Chinese people are resenting the fact that they have to prop up this abomination of a country.
Chances of China sending combat troops to help NK are probably less than 10%, if they did, it would probably be to take out the NK's batshit crazy leadership.

You ask what possible business of ours to get involved?
A defense treaty treaty we've had with them for over 60 years.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

67. If that's the case it would seem to be more China's problem than ours.

We've broken treaties before, have lots of experience doing so. Why are so eager to see people killed fighting another needless war?

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Gandhi

[premium]

68. Look, I get it.

You don't think that we should honor our defense treaty with S. Korea, but you are in the minority if NK attacked.
And who's eager to see another war?
I haven't seen it here with the exception of one or two people.

I've no doubt that China is working behind the scenes to get NK to calm down, they don't want war in that region anymore that us or SK.
China is about business now and war would be bad for China's economy, hell, the whole world's economy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

74. Son you might not be aware of this

But there is a mutual defense treaty, and 60K US troops on the DMZ already.

They attack, we are pretty much involved already, have been for sixty years.

The ignorance is mind boggling at time.

There is more, if, as you claim, the US was rushing to war we have had plenty of opportunities. The last one, the sinking of the Chaosan and bombardment of civilians in 2010.

Of course there is this little factoid that we are talking of two sovereign nations, one DPRK the other the ROK.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

85. So, pull the troops out, daughter(?).

BTW, the Confederacy proclaimed itself a sovereign nation. As did the United States after a civil war fought here with the aid of foreign powers.

[premium]

86. So, just like that, pull the troops out?

Thereby, guaranteeing a war? Why would you want that?
Our troops there are a deterrent to a NK attack, part of the Norks demands for a formal peace treaty is a full troop withdrawal, know why?
It would give them the opening they want for an attempted armed takeover of SK.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

87. We managed to pull out of North Korea once. We pulled of Vietnam. We're pulling out of Iraq.

And, Afghanistan. We pulled our missile out of Turkey to end the Cuban Missile Crisis.

[premium]

88. You didn't answer my question.

Why would you want to pull out the one deterrent that is probably keeping the Norks on their side of the border?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

90. Because I'm not a hawk, and think that all American combat troops should be pulled out everywhere.

[premium]

94. Fair enough.

Keeping troops in SK as a deterrent is not a hawkish position, it's recognizing that there is an evil dictatorship to the north of them just itching for the chance to absorb SK.
That said, we can have a difference of opinion and still remain civil.
Have a great Easter Sunday.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. Whatever...have a wonderful life in

Fantasy land.

Goodbye

One more thing, your handle belongs to a saying of a quite bloody civil war and revolution. Irony written all over.

[GP6971]

89. 60k US troops on the DMZ???????

There are only 28,500 in all the ROK. 10,000 of those are with 2nd Inf Div about 15 KM south of the DMZ

[nadinbrzezinski]

101. Sorry, forgot to account for the pullback

During the Bush the lesser years.

Sorry

[GP6971]

105. No problem

Only because I go to the ROK so often and work for a defense contractor do I know these things

[nadinbrzezinski]

106. You stay safe in case Dear Leader decides to imitate grand dad

[GP6971]

107. Nah.....it's all attention getting

We're headed over at the end of the month.......no State Dept advisories, no assembly of dependents. We're in good shape. One thing I noticed.......seats on the planes to the ROK are plentiful......not so much coming back.

Also, the Korean news channels aren't in a panic. They are Kind of equating it of it to a bad used car salesman ratcheting up the pressure. My words and impression......not theirs

[nadinbrzezinski]

108. Well, with words like boiled pumpkin, we enter Python land

[cali]

91. Nope. Can't legally do that. We have a treaty in place with SK

[davidpdx]

23. We should defend South Korea

We have a duty to defend South Korea if North Korea attacks.

Frankly I've been shocked by some on DU that say or imply we shouldn't.

Again I will repost this:

The 15th largest economy in the world, $1.1 trillion GDP, 48 million in population, 23.8 million in the Seoul Metro Area (Seoul, Incheon, Gyeonggi-do).

I've been told in terms of the cost of the B-2 trip was covered by South Korea btw in case anyone cares.

[99Forever]

25. There will not be an invasion.

Stop beating the fucking war drums, please.

[cali]

93. thank you for inserting sanity.

[randome]

26. Drop a billion and a half chocolate Easter bunnies on the country.

They will be too busy eating to do anything.

[quinnox]

29. launch nukes in response

Let's just see what happens. What if scenarios are silly.

What if China attacks Japan?

What if North Korea invades America?

What if a big asteroid hits the Earth unexpectedly?

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. What if scenarios are at the heart of military planning and war games

[quinnox]

35. So.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. More

[quinnox]

43. I'm as scared of North Korea as I am of an Alien Invasion

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. You can be as scared of it as you want

Chances are they won't do a thing. This is to try to get some food and talk to DC (fat chance on the latter)

But what if scenarios exist to invade Canada and Mexico as well.

This is how it works.

We have plans for everything...so does every other military. In fact, for NK I am willing to bet the farm both China, and the People's Army, and the Russian military have plans as well. They are called contingency plans.

As to the Alien invasion, the chances of life in other places but Sol are extremely good. Some will be intelligent. Any can cross interstellar space to Sol and has war like intentions, kiss your ass good bye...their technology base is Millenia ahead of ours. That Fourth of July movie has a hell of a sound track, but a bad ending.

[jsr]

34. Nothing will happen

[Demonaut]

37. you nuke Botswana.......oh?...sorry, I thought you meant bush*

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. DUZY!!!!!

You Sir...win this thread!!!

[Demonaut]

110. thx...lol

[Coyotl]

39. Start parachuting in the Twinkies

They will be so busy eating sugar, the war will just stop.

Any other genius questions?

[GreenStormCloud]

114. The Hostess company went banrupt. No Twinkies. N/T

[TwilightGardener]

41. You go at them with all we've got, short of nuclear.

Keeping the North from invading the South has been our duty over there since the 50's.

[SQUEE]

73. Nuclear is still on the table as the NK miltary is actually expected to utilize NBC

We have until recently had a standing policy the Chem and Bio are equivilent to Nukes, and we will respond in kind, we "no longer have" tactical chem munitions, therefore canned sunshine will be in the area and on standby.

[TwilightGardener]

75. Well, I'm assuming that NK wouldn't use them, but yeah, if they used WMD--

we'd have to respond in kind. Obviously, that would be truly, truly awful.

[SQUEE]

76. During my 13 monts on the DMZ

We always assumed NK would follow Warsaw Pact doctrine of strategic and liberal use of persistent agents, I find slime more horrifying than even nukes.

[TwilightGardener]

77. My husband was at Kunsan for a year--he remembers lots of chem gear training.

I always forget that as a factor when I think about possible war with NK.

[SQUEE]

80. It to me was the only redemptive quality of a nuclear arsenal

The threat of devastating and immediate response would keep the chem, and bio genie in the bottle.
Hopefully lil Kim isn't dreaming of a Götterdämmerung

[premium]

79. Same here during my stint on the DMZ

during the late 60's, early 70's.
Very tense times there, never knew when the balloon would go up.

[lunatica]

45. What a fucking jerk

[Le Taz Hot]

54. +1

Someone didn't get enough attention as a child. I miss Unrec.

[Jamastiene]

96. Love your signature quote.

[lunatica]

98. I like it because it nails the deniers' logic perfectly

[stevenleser]

46. Before the President even has time to react a number of predesigned actions are already happening

by the generals on the ground in South Korea. Anything the President would order would probably not impact the first stages of the conflict. Assuming a conventional war of course.

[octothorpe]

49. I'd resign and let Biden handle. I don't handle pressure well.

[alphafemale]

50. You mean that smoking crater between China and Korea? nt

[Faygo Kid]

51. It's over within days - not even a week

With at least a million killed. Horrific.

[pangaia]

61. First.. call Xi Jinping.

Ni hao. Wo bu dong! WTF!

[Initech]

65. It's World War 3!!!!!!

[mainer]

69. Saddam launches an attack that results in a mushroom cloud.

You're President George W. Bush. What do you do?

[premium]

71. Invade another country while reading the little engine that could. nt.

[Rex]

70. Never going to happen.

nt.

[TeamPooka]

78. you go first. to ask the question without your opinion feels like troll bait.

[bowens43]

83. Its not going to happen so why speculate?

[yurbud]

111. I suspect we have every missile and artillery piece in North Korea in our sites already

[freshwest]

113. President Obama has already taken steps. It's up to NK to face that SK and the USA is ready:

The bill Obama just signed to keep the American government operating, also included:

SUMMARY AS OF:
3/4/2013--Introduced.

Department of Defense, Military Construction and Veterans Affairs, and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013 - Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2013 - Appropriates funds for FY2013 to the Department of Defense (DOD) for:

(1) military personnel; (2) operation and maintenance, including for the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces, environmental restoration, overseas humanitarian, disaster, and civic aid, former Soviet Union cooperative threat reduction, and the Department of Defense Acquisition Workforce Development Fund; (3) procurement, including for aircraft, missiles, weapons, tracked combat vehicles, ammunition, shipbuilding and conversion, and purchases under the Defense Production Act of 1950; (4) research, development, test, and evaluation (RDT&E); (5) Defense Working Capital Funds and the National Defense Sealift Fund; (6) the Defense Health Program; (7) chemical agents and munitions destruction; (8) drug interdiction and counter-drug activities; (9) the Office of the Inspector General; (10) the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and Disability System Fund; (11) the Intelligence Community Management Account; and (12) overseas contingency operations, including regular, reserve, and National Guard personnel, operation and maintenance, the Overseas Contingency Operations Transfer Fund, the Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund, the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund, procurement, RDT&E, and the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Fund.

Specifies authorized, restricted, and prohibited uses of appropriated funds. Rescinds specified funds from various accounts under prior defense appropriations Acts.

Military Construction and Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 - Appropriates funds for FY2013 for DOD for: (1) military construction for the Army, Navy and Marine Corps, and Air Force (military departments), DOD, the Army and Air National Guard, and the Army, Navy, and Air Force reserves; (2) the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Security Investment Program; (3) family housing construction and related operation and maintenance for the military departments and DOD; (4) the Department of Defense Family Housing Improvement Fund; (5) DOD chemical demilitarization construction; and (6) the Department of Defense Base Closure Accounts of 1990 and 2005.

Appropriates funds for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for: (1) the Veterans Benefits Administration; (2) readjustment benefits; (3) veterans insurance and indemnities; (4) the Veterans Housing Benefit Program Fund; (5) the Vocational Rehabilitation Loans Program; (6) the Native American Veteran Housing Loan Program; (7) the Veterans Health Administration; (8) the National Cemetery Administration; (9) the Office of Inspector General; (10) construction for major and minor projects; and (11) grants for the construction of extended care facilities and veterans cemeteries.

Appropriates funds for: (1) the American Battle Monuments Commission, (2) the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims, (3) DOD cemeterial expenses, (4) the Armed Forces Retirement Home, and (5) overseas contingency operations for military construction for the Navy and Marine Corps.

Specifies restrictions and authorities regarding the use of funds appropriated in this Act.

Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013 - Makes continuing appropriations for FY2013.

Appropriates amounts for continuing operations, projects, or activities which were conducted in FY2012 and for which appropriations, funds, or other authority were made available in: (1) the Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012; (2) the Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012; (3) the Energy and Water Development and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012; (4) the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2012; (5) the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2012; (6) the Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012; (7) the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012; (8) the Legislative Branch Appropriations Act, 2012; (9) the Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2012; (10) the Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012; and (11) the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act, 2012. Establishes levels of funding for FY2013 for departments and agencies included under such Acts.

Specifies authorized, restricted, and prohibited uses of appropriated funds.

Rescinds, except as specified, defined applicable percentages of: (1) the budget authority provided (or obligation limit imposed) for FY2013 for any of the preceding discretionary accounts, (2) the budget authority provided in any advance appropriation for FY2013 for any discretionary account in any prior fiscal year appropriation Act, and (3) the contract authority provided in FY2013 for any program subject to limitation incorporated or otherwise contained in the preceding provisions this Act.


Preparations are being made and money being spent for every scenario on the planet, whether we like it or not. It is what it is and he's ready. So if NK doesn't want to get nuked themselves by American ships or submarines nearby, they might not even do this. It's still a MAD world, apparently.