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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMadonna's halftime show was AWESOME!
I have always been a big fan. I thought she did a great job with her Super Bowl performance.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)hard to tell.
godai
(2,902 posts)Total lip-sync of oldies and never heard of songs. Sorry, not a fan.
morningglory
(2,336 posts)JSnuffy
(374 posts)Seriously though.. she needs to stop...
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Rockholm
(4,628 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)I don't understand why everyone was ripping her. She is one of the greatest performers in the history of the business. Its really hard to stay on top of a craft like "pop" sining for 30 years. You have to be absurdly talented just to get on top at all period.
Madonna is one of the greatest singers/performers of all time. And tonight at age 54 she showed us why.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)You have to be absurdly talented just to get on top at all period.
HAHAHA
Thanks for the laugh you made my night.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)I mean, just look at Justin Bieber.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)What is it, the He-man woman haters' club?
Fuckin bullshit.
I've never been a pop fan, actually, but there's something about her riffs and hooks that always surpassed pop top 40, for me.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)But not as bad as I expected. She's kept her voice, and the show wasn't just a bunch of cheesecake like they usually are. On the other hand, as usual there was way too much flash, smoke and weird choreography.
brucefan
(1,549 posts)But she was lip syncing
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)I went to see her in Baltimore during the Blonde Ambition tour and it was pretty obvious when she was singing and when she was lip syncing.
It was still a blast.
DontTreadOnMe
(2,442 posts)the entire performance was lip sync'ed. But then, most of the Super Bowl halftimes are all lip sync'd. They don't want to chance the audio, so it is all pre-recorded and scripted.. every Super Bowl act so far - even the Stones.
godai
(2,902 posts)Music was pre-recorded, not voices.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)Neither did Tom Petty. I guess some people are easily impressed by a few million dollars worth of costumes and a Sony Walkman playing your 30 year old cd over the PA.
winstars
(4,220 posts)Madonna was all lip sync although she always has been so....
Webster Green
(13,905 posts)Maybe not. It looked real to me though.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Still really bad, but not the train wreck I was expecting. If I was to make a dental analogy, it was a root canal rather than a full on extraction.
brewens
(13,582 posts)marmar
(77,078 posts)nt
DontTreadOnMe
(2,442 posts)lightweight entertainer with nothing to say... she is all jiggle.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)There have been much worse ones - Black Eyed Peas of a few years ago comes to mind. Tom Petty. Janet Jackson.
They haven't been actually good in many years - they've become all flash and smoke and special effects, but I don't think this was the worst one.
JSnuffy
(374 posts)They were the worst in recent memory...
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)Tom Petty was fantastic, he's an American treasure. Madonna is a skid mark on the history of American pop music, might as well have gotten Brittney Spears again.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)Not a Madonna fan, either, though I don't think she's near as dreadful as Brittney Spears. Madonna has a decent voice, while Brittney doesn't have any talent at all.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)dogknob
(2,431 posts)Ter
(4,281 posts)Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)My husband and I walked out. But then, we were never big fans.
Go Giants!
Lucky Luciano
(11,254 posts)and them carrying her out on a big chariot, I said, "Wow, this is an expensive show!"
That show must have cost $20MM+ to put together.
glinda
(14,807 posts)hunter
(38,311 posts)But, it's the Super Bowl. Everything about the Super Bowl is bizarre over the top U.S.Americana.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)If you're a fan of lip syncing.
Elton John was right. He has been right about her the whole time.
Make sure you lip-sync good. Of course you have to play live, but I don't think you can. In all fairness to everyone who's done it before, I think you may be able to sing live, but it's really hard to play live.
dhill926
(16,337 posts)was well done. Musically, not so much.......
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Its entertainment. its suppose to be grand. Its suppose to be bigger than life. Its suppose to be bright and colorful. Its suppose to be eye catching.
There are some of us out here who think that a man in jeans with one microphone standing there with a guitar all night boring.
This show was pleasing to the ears and the eyes.
provis99
(13,062 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I am fairly certain that your own musical tastes are not considered craptastical pieces of feces by anyone who is you, and that everyone with your precise tastes in music hates the right notes. In fact, I imagine you would even go so far as to see one of your own favorite Quarter Pounders in concert in given the opportunity.
(Of course, your learned opinion will be given all the credibility it warrants...)
sendero
(28,552 posts).. it was a show for those who like Broadway Musicals, not music. No thanks.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Possibly because they insist on recruiting their performers from the home for geriatric rockers.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)considering your avatar
rubberducky
(2,405 posts)I thought it was great.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Ugh. On second thought. No I wasn't.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Of course if you're not a Madonna fan you wouldn't like it...
I spent many hours in the early 90s working out to her music so I guess I'm biased...
xchrom
(108,903 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)...it was a train wreck. She nearly fell several times and the acrobatics were silly. Seriously, if she would have just sang and let the dancers dance, it would have been much better.
Cee Lo totally pulled it out and helped for a good ending, but that was the only part of it that wasn't a train wreck.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)bermudat
(1,329 posts)I know the haters will be out en masse, but she brought it. I've watched shows with the Stones and
Springsteen and thought hohum. The halftime show in Houston with Janet Jackson was great
but the "nipple" incident shut out everything else.
YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)missed it real time but found this vid. wow. garish and conspicuous consumption over the top but lovin it! No one else like madonna, she got it.
GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)Just saying.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I like Madonna because she took the whole sex thing and made it her own thing, not some guy's thing. I will always admire her for that.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)there seems to be a special venom aimed at her. Is it that special malice that people love to hurl at women?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)doesn't she?
regular woman hating stuff then an extra helping just because she's Madonna
GOTV
(3,759 posts)I'm not trying to say she's any worse than anyone else but she produced material that ranged from sexually suggestive to sexually explicit, including revealing photos of herself such as those in her "sex" book and offered them for sale to men to buy and drool over.
So it seems to me she made some % of her money selling herself as a sex object - as many many thousands of women have done. She may have made more money than most of them but how did she make it any different than Mae West or any other performer/model/stripper.
I've never gotten a good answer for that. It's usually something along he lines of "she's such a great business woman". But how much of a business woman does one need to be to realize men will pay for stuff that has sexy women on it, in it or associated with it.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Madonna was no one's fool in the bedroom. This is the basic message she was sending, I believe. She wasn't going to pine away while her married lover forgot to call her. She wasn't going to act like a little girl waiting and crying over a prince that never appears but a grown strong woman who had sex with whoever she wanted, just because that was what she wanted at the time, and her way. She reversed gender roles in ways that not many have been able to do previous. She called the shots.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As opposed to the depth of your own post.
Just sayin' that sometimes six of one is little more than half a dozen of the other.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)I am disappointed. What the hell was that "L-U-V Madonna" song with the pompoms?
A very forgettable show.
On edit: I really like Madonna. I think she's fantastic. But this was just not her best stuff.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)And with pom poms????
Whisp
(24,096 posts)is that her newest one? I heard it a couple times and can't decide whether I care for it but it sure reminds me of the kind of duet/trio of women singers from the 60s, like the Ronettes, etc.,
I met him on a Sunday and my heart stood still
A do run run run a do run run,
--- that kind of feel to it.
glinda
(14,807 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)But I know that'll never happen.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)?w=278&h=300
That's the average age of a Madonna fan!
Whisp
(24,096 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)If he were still with us, he'd make Madonna look like a kid.
just sayin.
tridim
(45,358 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)I was just messing around!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Of course it's not. It's simply a "I'm more musically evolved than you" complaint. And bless your little heart, of course you are.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)They have had good singers in the past. Those were two that were really great, in my opinion. The Black Eyed Peas last year and Madonna this year were not so great. At least the Peas sang live. I mean lip syncing? In this day and age? Thumbs down from me and I used to love Madonna in the late 80's early 90's when I was a preteen. But the no singing live is so lame.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Which is sad. Nickleback??? I can't think of anyone else.
tridim
(45,358 posts)LOL at Nickelback.
bayareamike
(602 posts)gregtownsand
(43 posts)No doubt.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)As she sunk below the stage to "burn in hell"
My partner was super impressed and proud of her....back in the day she was highly criticized for this video....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like_a_Prayer_(song)
SNIP:
"The single is also memorable for its accompanying music video, which Mary Lambert directed. It features Madonna as a witness to a murder, as she hides in a church for safety. The clip also portrays Catholic symbols such as stigmata and burning crosses, and a dream about making love to a saint. After its release, the Vatican condemned the music video, while family and religious groups protested its broadcast. They boycotted products by soft drink manufacturer Pepsi, which used the song for a commercial. Madonna's contract with Pepsi was subsequently canceled, although she was allowed to retain her initial fee."
retired af major
(49 posts)did you catch MIA's flip off on national TV during the half time show?
http://deadspin.com/5882497/yes-mia-just-flipped-off-the-world
I missed the symbolism you picked up on though. Perceptive.
Kookaburra
(2,649 posts)Yes, a lot of it was lip synched, but so what? It was still fun.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)tawadi
(2,110 posts)Her voice still sounds good. Liked her boots!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The costumes were interesting, but the characters passed through so quickly that I couldn't get a good look at some of them.
I didn't know who those other people singing were. I gather they're famous with the young crowd. That one gal flashed her middle finger, which is disappointing. Can't we get one clean performance, seein' how there are lots of kiddos watching this game?
VioletLake
(1,408 posts)Not many people have the self-confidence and skill to command such a beast.
I'm not a fan of her music, but she is an impressive person.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)traditions embodied in the Super Bowl, Entertainment, Hollywood extravaganza, making visual reference to Roman gladiators, classic movie stars, sports rituals
demosincebirth
(12,536 posts)I thought
deutsey
(20,166 posts)that's why I wasn't impressed.
But to each his/her own.
rollin74
(1,973 posts)first one I've actually enjoyed in a long time
donheld
(21,311 posts)musette_sf
(10,200 posts)Zanzoobar
(894 posts)It's not really worth the argument, is it?
Esthetics are subjective.
scubadude
(3,556 posts)She's never had any talent and never will.
Scuba
Johonny
(20,841 posts)I thought half time show was meant for you to goto the bathroom. The super bowl is kind of funny in that the best show in a while was Prince. Acts that should be good often aren't and acts I have no interest in watching are often good. Something about the cheese of half time makes cheesy acts work. The Who are a vastly more talented band than Madonna ever, but really didn't work as half time show stuff.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)They might as well have taped it a week ago.
Zanzoobar
(894 posts)Ter
(4,281 posts)I honestly think everyone missed it but my friend. He rewound it and there it was.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)since it was a cheap attempt to get attention.
LibertyorDeath
(9,295 posts)It was Vomitous
meaculpa2011
(918 posts)involved in the Super Bowl, halftime is the silliest.
PLAY THE GAME!
Thirty plus minutes in the locker room at halftime so that some washed-up exhibitionist can preen for the non-sports fans makes me want to puke. It's an insult to the players and the fans.
BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)And as a newly minted 50 yo myself, I could see her feeling her own 53+ years too, although I'll give her an "A" for the acrobatic effort.
Meanwhile Lady Gaga, who is 1/2 Madonna's age, carries on the "tradition" thanks to entertainers like Madonna and their influence.
rucky
(35,211 posts)and lip-synched or not, that was her voice and the sound quality was great this year - especially compared to last year's BEP debacle.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... and really wish the NFL would stop trying to be in the 'halftime show' business.
The video fx on the 'floor' were pretty cool to look at, but the rest Sucked.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)by having current artists perform with her. And she did make good choices in the songs she performed. Bad lip synching, though, on her part. Way too obvious. Another thing I don't like about quite a few female artists these days is that I spend most of the time being afraid they're gonna trip and fall because of those stupid shoes. I know I'm not alone.
As a whole, it was much better than I thought it would be.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)I really enjoyed the light show/stage. I wish they had pulled back and showed that more. Would have been amazing to be there in person.
People take things too seriously. It was meant to be a spectacle, and it was.
blogslut
(38,000 posts)Ms. Ciccone has always understood her strengths versus her weaknesses in regards to her talent. She knows she's not a strong singer so she's always staged big productions with lots of eye candy. She's pretty damned good at what she does despite all the harrumphs from her critics.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Great show, AND a total class act!
WIN!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)On every level.
I will give her credit for having someone actually relevant on stage(M.I.A.) but that's it.
The only thing likely worse is the movie she directed.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)isn't it nice that arts and entertainment are subjective matters?
I liked all the performers sharing the stage with Madonna...everyone really enjoying performing as a team. Good stuff
Kwarg
(89 posts)And yeh it was awesome!!!
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)I liked all the songs she performed except for her new one. The dance beat behind it was alright but the overall sing songy cheerleader like sound seemed unworthy of the others she sang(lipped). Nicki Minaj and MIA made it better though, I liked their parts.
Anyway, woohooo! GIANTS won
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)No high praise of a person or thing exists without the concomitant verbal urination on that same thing. Some call it balance, others call it petulant irrelevancy. I like to maintain my position in the latter group.
Many of the responses to your OP have "bless your little heart" written all over them....
dana_b
(11,546 posts)As her new film reminds us, Madonna is as unapologetic as ever and it's doing wonders for the collective female psyche
Naomi Wolf
guardian.co.uk, Monday 6 February 2012 13.30 EST
Last night, at half-time during the Super Bowl that military-industrial complex factory of western masculinity, in which beefed-up men were pounding the stuffing out of each other, in between shots of the troops in Afghanistan Madonna was marched on stage by a glistening gladiator muscle-troupe and flipped the flowing cape of LMFAO's RedFoo. Madonna was invited to perform at the Super Bowl and ended up satirizing the Super Bowl. The girl can't help herself, and thank God for that.
So Madonna's refusal to be less powerful, less entitled, less desiring and less not-ordinary, is always going to bring out the haters, whether she is playing with sacred iconography or just pissing people off. But I would say that this ongoing hostility is just the proof she should need that she is doing her proper job in the collective female psyche.
more at link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/06/madonna-hating-we-superbowl?fb=optOut
Actually those are the last two paragraphs of the article which is about her new film. However with the OP's topic, I found this appropriate.
I am not a huge Madonna fan but I love her spirit, her creativity and her drive.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I noted the excessive hate directed at Madonna...lotta dooods around here especially are reveling in their contempt for her. It makes them oh so cool, doesn't it? What is it about men who trash women because it makes them feel oh so big-in-the-dick?
Exactly right, she took the assignment to CREATE a 12 minute piece of entertainment and gave us a visual explosion. She included the archetype of the Roman coliseum for the 21st century (perfect, since football players are our equivalent of the Roman gladiator), played with icons of entertainment and the ritual of sport (cheerleaders and pom poms)....all in total control and class. It's absolutely supposed to be spectacle and she created a visual feast.
You can bet your ass, if a man had created this piece, we wouldn't be needing to defend him.
I had to give ya a heart for this!
dana_b
(11,546 posts)and I completely agree: You can bet your ass, if a man had created this piece, we wouldn't be needing to defend him.
I don't know why she's trashed so vehemently - maybe they are simply threatened.
polly7
(20,582 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)some of the criticisms here reflect more on the posters than the performers yesterday.
these shows are spectacles of costumes, sound and movement. not sure what one expects from an 12 minute interlude between halves of the Superbowl.
they got a world famous performer like Madonna and instead of just making it "oldies", they had other performers and even she did a new song.
it was lively, fun, loud and quickly over.
that's what it's supposed to be and for what it's supposed to be, she was excellent.
the critics should go to a dance performance or the symphony. halftime at the Superbowl is not what they're looking for, obviously.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)Duke Ellington and Artie Shaw. We've slipped a few notches over the years.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Missed the entire thing. Oops.