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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:32 AM May 2013

What should a country do with a prisoner it has itself radicalized?

I'm thinking obviously of the prisoners in GITMO that we can't find a country to take in.

Grant for the sake of argument that we're talking about prisoners who were entirely free from wrongdoing when we shipped them to prison (this was the case for some of them)

Grant for the sake of argument that they now are angry enough at the US to help advance terrorist plans against us or countries deemed too close to us.

What do you do at that point? Pericles told the Athenians that "this empire was wrong to grasp, but dangerous to let go of"; what do you say about that argument?

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What should a country do with a prisoner it has itself radicalized? (Original Post) Recursion May 2013 OP
What does America do with with the people G_j May 2013 #1
Well we sure don't have a good answer for that, either (nt) Recursion May 2013 #2
that's what I was thinking G_j May 2013 #3
Let 'em out. Then just sit back and wait. Robb May 2013 #5
Isn't Glenn Beck building a compound somewhere? Recursion May 2013 #7
It's too bad Whedon's Dollhouse closed up. randome May 2013 #8
Well, there is an upcoming Mars mission, I hear. randome May 2013 #4
We had to shop around the Uighurs to like 20 countries Recursion May 2013 #6
Send them back to their country of origin. FarCenter May 2013 #9
In most cases they won't take them, or US law forbides us from returning them Recursion May 2013 #10
Send them back anyway FarCenter May 2013 #11

G_j

(40,372 posts)
1. What does America do with with the people
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:37 AM
May 2013

it releases from its criminal factories? (the federal prison system)

G_j

(40,372 posts)
3. that's what I was thinking
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:40 AM
May 2013

I know the Rs in particular will never go for the Gitmo prisoners being taken in here in the US.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
5. Let 'em out. Then just sit back and wait.
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:44 AM
May 2013

Because with a deliberately high recidivism rate, business will always be booming.

I figure that's the plan with Gitmo, too.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. It's too bad Whedon's Dollhouse closed up.
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:51 AM
May 2013

We could mind-wipe them then imprint them all with Glenn Beck's personality.

"I am Glenn Beck."
"No, I am."

Eventually even Glenn Beck would doubt his own Beck-ninity.

(Um, guess I shouldn't be cracking jokes about this. I'll stop now.)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Well, there is an upcoming Mars mission, I hear.
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

Seriously, I don't know the answer. We need desperately to close Gitmo and stop force-feeding people.

OTOH, if they are desperate enough to go on hunger strikes, maybe we should repatriate them and ask their governments to keep an eye on them for us.

And then hope for the best.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. We had to shop around the Uighurs to like 20 countries
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:45 AM
May 2013

I forget who eventually took them but it took Secretary Clinton threatening to cut off all of their aid if they didn't take them. And those are people that pretty much everybody agrees were innocent going in.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. In most cases they won't take them, or US law forbides us from returning them
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:55 AM
May 2013

Many come from countries we can't legally return them to because we have a reasonable suspicion that the regime would torture or kill them.

Others come from countries where that isn't the case, but those countries have stated they will refuse to let them back in.

It is, in a word, FUBAR.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
11. Send them back anyway
Thu May 2, 2013, 12:00 PM
May 2013
Many come from countries we can't legally return them to because we have a reasonable suspicion that the regime would torture or kill them.

Change the law. What their country does to their citizens is not our problem.

Others come from countries where that isn't the case, but those countries have stated they will refuse to let them back in.

Put prisoner in capsule, attach parachute, put capsule and parachute in drone, and drop off prisoner over country of origin.
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