A question about the DC gun march, the one with the 2,000 idiots with loaded rifles

[1-Old-Man]

It is my understanding that it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm in DC, that no permit exists to allow anyone, resident or not, to do so. So here's the question, and I ask it with reference to the 2,000-plus idiots who plan an armed march on the capital. Is the carrying of a loaded gun in DC a Felony?

If so those boys might want to give a little more thought to what it is they plan to do, cause playing with felonies not only has the ability to be life-style harmful but also tends to cost lots and lots of money.

[Bonhomme Richard]

1. Not going to happen.

They will be clearly breaking the law unless the are really, really stupid .........nevermind.

[1-Old-Man]

5. Rule 16b. If something very stupid can be done someone will marshal the forces to do it.

[arcane1]

2. I predict these chicken-shits won't do a damned thing, and won't even come close to 2,000

[madinmaryland]

4. It will probably be more like this...

A dozen or so dead-ender supporters from the Bush era.

[arcane1]

7. I will never, ever forget that photo

[msanthrope]

8. You beat me to it!!! Did you ever see this gem--describing the Porta-Potty War?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/671481/posts

It's hysterical.

[madinmaryland]

11. That was freaking funny!!

Ya know that site has not changed one bit in the 11 years since that thread!!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

23. It literally hasn't.

Same exact antiquated and hard to read layout.

[Whiskeytide]

9. Is that Bush 43...

... in the blue jacket and khakis?

[Blue_Tires]

22. Yeah, they'll find some reason to cancel while still saving face

I'm betting a week before the event, Kokesh will get a series of intimidating e-mails threatening violence or bloodshed, and that will give him the "out" he needs...

His 'mission' has already been accomplished, given how much attention and publicity he's garnered....

[Warpy]

3. Well, turnout will likely be far lower

because those old boys are good at swaggering and blustering but not real good at showing up to do anything, just ask their wives and kids.

I can see a handful of them in some parking lot in Alexandria shuffling their feet and wondering if that's all that's gonna turn up and throwing the rifle back into its rack and taking off quietly.

I just hope this is true, that enough of them don't actually turn up to make this a complete clusterfuck, although I'd love to see them face a line of tanks with their little popguns, just to give them a reality check.

[msanthrope]

6. Just another Freeper sortie in their Porta-Potty War. nt

[Junkdrawer]

10. Yeah....And Ted Nugent will be either dead or in jail of Obama is reelected

[DreamGypsy]

12. Here is a summary of Washington DC gun laws ...

...from Wikipedia (sorry for the lack of formatting, a real table is available at the link):

Subject/Law Long Guns Handguns Notes

Permit to purchase? Yes Yes The firearm registration process also serves as a permitting process.
Firearm registration? Yes Yes All firearms must be registered with the Metropolitan Police Department. A background check, training, and testing of the gun owner are required.
"Assault weapon" law? Yes Yes "Assault weapons" and .50 BMG rifles prohibited.
Magazine Capacity Restriction? Yes Yes Illegal to possess or acquire magazines of more than 10 round capacity.
Owner license required? Yes Yes The firearm registration process also serves as a licensing process.
Carry permits issued? No No Concealed carry prohibited.
Open Carry? No No Open carry prohibited.
NFA weapons restricted? Yes Yes Automatic firearms prohibited.
Peaceable journey laws? No No Possession of unregistered firearms prohibited for both residents and non-residents.


I also found a 9-page pdf with lots of details and statute information here: http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/dc.pdf

For example:

22-4503.02 Prohibition of Firearms from Public or Private Property.
(a)
The District of Columbia may prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on its property and any property under its control.
(b)
Private persons or entities owning property in the District of Columbia may prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on their property; provided, that this subsection shall not apply to law enforcement personnel when lawfully authorized to enter onto private property.

[loyalsister]

15. They may be looking for a 2nd Amendment court challenge

to every one of those prohibitive ordinances.

[DreamGypsy]

21. A Washington DC court challenge has already been filed (2009)...

... by the Second Amendment Foundation. Here's their press release: SAF SUES DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA OVER CARRYING OF HANDGUNS

For Immediate Release: 8/6/2009

BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today filed a lawsuit on behalf of three residents of the District of Columbia and a New Hampshire resident, seeking to compel the city to issue carry permits to law-abiding citizens.

The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court on behalf of Tom Palmer, George Lyon and Amy McVey, all District residents, and Edward Raymond, a New Hampshire resident. SAF and the individual plaintiffs are being represented by attorney Alan Gura, who successfully argued the landmark District of Columbia v. Heller case in 2008 that overturned the District’s handgun ban on the grounds that it was unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

“Once again,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb, “we’re heading back to court because the anti-gun city administration refuses to abide by the law. It is beginning to appear like residents of the District are up against a rogue city government that simply does not want to ease its stranglehold on the most important civil right of all, the right of self-preservation.”

The case docket shows the last activity was 2012-12-11.

[loyalsister]

24. It appears to me that that action is limited to conceal\carry

I think they would be most likely to want to challenge these right now...

Firearm registration? Yes Yes All firearms must be registered with the Metropolitan Police Department. A background check, training, and testing of the gun owner are required.

"Assault weapon" law? Yes Yes "Assault weapons" and .50 BMG rifles prohibited.
Magazine Capacity Restriction? Yes Yes Illegal to possess or acquire magazines of more than 10 round capacity.
Owner license required? Yes Yes The firearm registration process also serves as a licensing process.

[DreamGypsy]

25. Right.

No doubt if someone offered up suitable plaintiffs and sufficient funding the SAF would be more than happy to file suit against any gun related 'inconvenience'.

[Whiskeytide]

13. I see it as a great...

... opportunity to seize 2000 guns from incompetent owners and get them off the streets (literally). But I'm an eternal optimist!

[Recursion]

14. DC criminal law is a very odd beast. Carrying a rifle is a civil tort against the city

The city council under home rule can pass criminal laws but they all have to be taken up by the US Attorney for DC. At any rate, carrying a rifle (without menacing or brandishing, and without committing another crime) is a civil tort against the city that can yield a $1000 fine. Carrying a handgun is a felony.

[FSogol]

16. Don't forget there are 30 different police departments in DC.

A lot of the land they plan on marching across is under US Park Police, Secret Service, or US Capitol Police jurisdiction.

[pinboy3niner]

18. Protesters' new battle cry: "Take your stinking paws off me, you damned thirty apes!"

They love them some Heston!

[HappyMe]

17. I don't think

it's ever going to happen.

It's like those westboro asshats - lots of hot air, no action.

[Mnemosyne]

19. I am hoping they show up and get hit with frequencies from an LRAD vehicle. If it's good enough

for G8 protesters, it's good enough for them.

[kestrel91316]

20. Aren't convicted felons barred from owning/possessing guns in a lot of places??

I am looking forward to the unintended consequences that are going to hit these freaks like a Mack truck.

[elleng]

26. DC plans to arrest armed 'protestors.'

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/armed-protesters-face-arrest-91022.html

[elleng]

27. 'Passing into the District of Columbia with loaded firearms

is a violation of the law and we’ll have to treat it as such,” Metropolitan Police Department Chief Cathy Lanier said.'

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/armed-protesters-face-arrest-91022.html#ixzz2SpKKSI1S

[DataDriven]

28. Backfire

this idiot may give us the push we need to get a second vote

http://behranalytics.blogspot.com/2013/05/cut-and-paste-versus-lock-and-load.html