A Reminder For Some Of The Right-Wingers Pushing For Pres. Obama's Impeachment....

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

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Message to the right-wingers: If you want to talk so openly and freely about impeaching President Obama, then it's important to remember who would succeed Obama as President...

THIS GUY!



Keep that in mind you crazy right-wingers, the next time you want to make a "big fucking deal" out of Benghazi and want to talk about impeaching Obama. Then you would have a man in office who, among other things:

Came out and supported gay marriage BEFORE President Obama did
Has had an "F" rating from the NRA throughout his years in public office
Is currently spearheading the effort for gun control, after voting in 1994 for the Assault Weapons Ban
Had a 100% rating from NARAL, Pro-Choice America
Authored the "Violence Against Women Act"
Blocked Robert Bork from the Supreme Court, as head of the Judiciary Committee

And most importantly, kicked little Eddie Munster's ass on national television in front of millions of people!

So, tell us liberals again how much you want to boot President Obama!

[shraby]

1. Wish I could rec this a hundred times over.

[Voice for Peace]

21. totally.. this really made me laugh.

[ms liberty]

2. K&R...n/t

[PDJane]

3. That actually might be a good thing...........just sayin'

[progressoid]

8. +1

[OnyxCollie]

18. Joe voted against domestic spying

and he's against Keystone XL. Unfortunately, he's in the minority:

HEADLINES MAY 09, 2013
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/5/9/headlines

Activist: Biden Avowed Opposition to Keystone XL Pipeline

An environmental activist is claiming that Vice President Joe Biden personally told her he is "in the minority" inside the White House in opposing approval of the Keystone XL oil pipeline. Elaine Cooper says she spoke to Biden at a public event in South Carolina last week. Writing for the Sierra Club, Cooper said: "I asked him about the administration’s commitment to making progress on climate and whether the president would reject the pipeline. He looked at the Sierra Club hat on my head, and he said, 'Yes, I do — I share your views — but I am in the minority.'" The news led a coalition of environmental groups to take out an ad reading: "Tell President Obama and Secretary Kerry: Joe Biden is Right." An anonymous official in Biden’s office refused to comment directly on the reported exchange but said Biden’s official position on the pipeline remains to await the final results of a State Department review.

[loudsue]

49. I SERIOUSLY doubt Biden would propose to cut social security benefits for seniors

I wish Biden was the president. He understands how to deal with the right wingers.

[JimDandy]

67. I am sooooo with you on this! n/ t

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

71. My first thought was this thread implied Biden > Obama

The OP should garner a lot of hate mail for this theard!

[Baitball Blogger]

4. This will not deter them.

This is all about Hillary in 2016. If they can demonize Benghazi, they demonize Hillary. And they're in that mode right now that if they say it enough times people will believe their lies about Benghazi.

[Thinkingabout]

52. K & R

They are so desperate to have a scandal and Obama a Hillary are not helping them. If the
is much effort was placed on governing our unemployment would be lower and a world class national health care system.

[freshwest]

5. Oh, yeah, baby! Then it'd be Biden 2016 and Biden 2020! Get ready for the pain:

Gun Control - Are our "babies" safe?

[sheshe2]

13. Oh Joe, we love you so!

"If that's his baby, then he needs help!"

Great video clip, freshwest!

[lastlib]

48. (unless they accomplished impeachment after Jan 2015....

Joe wouldn't be eligible in 2020.)

[ashling]

54. That's what I was thinking...

but only if the senate were to vote to remove Obama AFTER the 2014 election.

[freshwest]

55. Well, ain't gonna happen unless we lose big in 2014 - then all bets are off.

The baggers have not yet found the bottom of the crazy barrel.

[Jackpine Radical]

72. Maybe our whole society hasn't found the bottom

Of that crazy bbl.

[JaneyVee]

6. Impeachment doesn't mean resignation.

[truebluegreen]

36. No, it doesn't...

but conviction in the Senate does mean removal from office...

[treestar]

7. He's white

that would be a relief to them.

[freshwest]

15. Not for long. Like Kennedy was a traitor to their class, they see Biden as a traitor to his race.

It really is that simple with their oligarchic masters.

[treestar]

38. It shows how shallow thinking they are

They want Obama gone and yack about impeachment, never thinking what would happen next even if they got their way (which isn't happening, even Boehner and crew aren't going to do that - the reverse of the demands here to impeach Bush and trashing Pelosi for not pushing it).

[freshwest]

42. The first on PBO is direct political attack, the second ignorance of the process and long-term

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thinking, and surrounding all is ratfucking and demo gouging.

That is how they win both sides of the alleged political divide. They tell their followers on the right what a crook Obama is, what a weasel Pelosi and all the Democrats are, and in order to be mainstream, the Left agrees.

The 'both parties are the same' meme is a big one the right pushes, because it demoralizes Democrats, who honestly when all is said and done, the party of enlightened government. Not so with baggers and libertarians, they hate liberal government in its entirety as getting in their way. They know enlightened government that works, is a winner, so they nitpick everything, no matter how shallow or surreal.

But the GOP re-brands itself into a new version every two years or less. They have the money and media in their hands to brainwash us, as it's owned by a few conservative billionaires and used to promote their agenda every day.

That agenda is for the same result using the Right and the Left, but now there is a decreasing difference in the spin. They say government does not work and on the Right that spurs privatization and on the Left it spurs dropping out or going to the Libertarian with the same results.

Those of us in the uncomfortable middle are amused by the Right and given a knife in the back by the Left, and demoralized as we can't get out word out. DU is ratfucking central most days, since the media is our fodder as it is for all political forums and fails to educate, much less tell the truth about Obama or the Democratic Party platform.

[riqster]

62. +100 nt

[PatSeg]

9. Ha, ha, ha

I remember how the prospect of Dick Cheney as president often put the tamper on Bush impeachment talks. I don't think right-wingers think that far ahead though.

[gateley]

10. One of the most liberal Senators in the Senate!

Too funny!

[PatSeg]

12. They would be missing Obama really quick!

[Mr. X]

22. I can see it now...

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[PatSeg]

31. Ha, ha, be careful what you wish for!!!

[Segami]

11. Big K&R!

[Quantess]

14. I wish! Really, I do.

Anyway, this is halfway a good post and halfway a load of shit. Like we give a fuck what RWers think?

Sorry for my unladylike language.

[Kath1]

32. No need to be sorry!

This cheap Republican political move has me and my daughter throwing around the F word, too! Tell it like it is!

[IrishAyes]

53. We don't need to care what the RWers think because

They haven't the faintest idea how to do so above slug level. But just as it behooves one to watch out for mad dogs, we also need to keep a close eye on those raving lunatics. Unfortunately, that means 'listening' to them and sharing response strategy.

[Brigid]

16. I love that shit-eating grin Joe has!

No, the RW lunkheads do not want to deal with Joe in the first chair!

[sheshe2]

17. Watch what you wish for~

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Great Op, Matt!

How have you been! Long time no talk to.

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

19. Thank you sheshe!

I've been great lately! Busy time as school comes to an end, and, as of two weeks ago, I am officially a registered Democrat! How about yourself?

[sheshe2]

20. Wow, Matt. You are an officially registered Democrat!

Good for you!


Glad you've been great, now school's out for summer!

Things have been a little tough here. I live in Mass, not far from Boston. It's been a hard month for all of us, however it is getting better day by day.

sheshe

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

64. Thank you sheshe! Feels good to be "official"

I had no idea that you are in Mass. I'm so sorry for what the entire state has had to go through over the past month. The entire nation continues to be with you all! My mother lived in the state for a little while, so my family knows very well how exceptional people from Massachusetts are!

[Politicub]

39. Cool! Congrats!

[tavalon]

23. Hmmm, well the impeachment thing is bullshit,

but after enduring (yes, enduring) 4 years of Obama pretending to be a Democrat but behaving a lot more like a conservative, the thought of President Biden isn't nearly as frightening to me. But then, you weren't talking to me.

[Politicub]

40. Clearly you haven't been paying attention

Go back to sleep so your version of reality doesn't cloud your beautiful mind.

And thank you for your concern.

[tavalon]

44. That's funny

I've been paying so much attention it hurts. Obama has done some good and some bad and while as an individual, I think he's stellar, as a politician, I think he learned too much in Chicago. That he appointed Rahm Emanuel as his first COS was my first, but not my last confirmation of that.

This has been a hard decade and a half. I half thought I could stand down when we got Obama elected. I was, of course, wrong. The second time I voted for him, I voted for him with my eyes wide open. It's been much easier this time to watch him try to touch the third rail and do all of the things you would expect from a Republican. Yeah, we've had good days with this President, but we've also had bad days and on the whole, being better than Romney is an awfully low bar, don't you think? He achieves that but really, when you want a Wellstone, or a Frank or a Sanders, it gets hard to deal with the politician Obama. If he were as great a public servant as he is a politician, we would be watching the best Presidency ever. As is, we have our first black President and that's great but Obama is capable of so, so much more than having dark skin color and it frustrates me when he doesn't live up to that.

Instead of the rapid self destruction we saw under Bush, we're going over the cliff slower. Is that better? Maybe. Would President Biden be more of a Liberal? I think he might be.

But really, we all know this is a shot across the bow of SoS Clinton, whom the other side thinks is going to be our next nominee. They are already done with the next four years and looking forward to the next opportunity in the ring, so how happy or unhappy I may be with Obama is really quite tangential to the Benghazi Bullshit Ride.

Funny thing, I see SoS Clinton almost exactly as I now see Obama. She's a stellar person and there are few in the world smarter than her but her politics are too third way and I doubt her commitment to being a true public servant in the role of President (I delineated that because she was an awesome public servant as the SoS, one of the best ever) so she wouldn't be my first choice, but if she runs, she will be the one nominated and whatever disappointments lie ahead, she will also be better than whoever the other side puts up. They got nobody. So, as I did with Obama twice, I will vote for her. Everyone here will. At least this time, unlike 2008, when I was smitten and not as aware as I should have been, I will vote for her with my eyes open. I voted for Obama twice and it was only the second time that I did it with my eyes wide open

Now we can throw good and bad things that Obama has done, at each other until the cows come home and the reality is, we both have things we want and you may be getting more of what you want than I am. That's politics.

Oh, and thanks for your concern about my sleep. I've actually been getting a reasonable amount since I broke my shoulder. It hasn't changed Obama's essential corporate nature, but it has made me less moody about it.

[IrishAyes]

51. You damn with faint praise.

And I don't admire such cheap shots. But then consider the source... With friends like that, who needs enemies?

[Politicub]

66. Spoiler alert

You will never find perfection.

So you may as well pack it up and go home if that's your standard. Making the perfect the enemy of the good and all that.

And by many objective economic measures, things are improving. You may not wish to admit that, and that's your perogitive. But don't piss on us and tell us it's raining, okay?

[tavalon]

70. Pissing on you and telling you it's raining is the Republican's job

and if you call me a closet Republican, I will likely piss on myself laughing. I cant ROTFLMAO, because I have a broken shoulder.

I'm well aware I won't find perfection. But then perfection and "third way" are really miles apart, aren't they? We elected another DLC, third wayer and some of us, myself included, did not see that. I see it perfectly well now and I see it's the same with SoS Clinton. Biden isn't even as Liberal as I would like but he's miles further along that road than the person he serves at the pleasure of.

Do I hate Barack Obama? No, absolutely not. I suspect one day, he will be another Carter, at least I hope he will. Would that he would never go back to Chicago, as that place and it's politics destroyed much of what could have been great about this President. That I don't see him as the second coming may irk you, but it is what it is. I don't see Biden that way and most who are that way, are "not electable", "too idealistic" and blah, blah, blah. Elizabeth Warren would be someone I could stand behind knowing well that even she isn't as left as me.

I recognize there have been good things with this administration, just not nearly as great as they could have been. I still hold out hope, though little, that President Obama can carve out a legacy greater than his first four years suggest. Hell, if his watered down Romneycare ends up pushing us into universal health care, I won't even remember the drones or Guantanamo. It's likely that if this President does anything at all to Social Security (other than lifting the income limits for collection from the workers) I will always remember him as the most disappointing of all Democratic (?) Presidents. Likely, I will just remember him as mediocre, very much like Bill Clinton. Those were not bad years either, but he was third way, DLC too, and it showed. It will with his wife as well.

I don't believe the DLC/Third Way is in any way useful to our "team" nor do I see this as a team sport. These people are supposed to be serving the people and by people, I don't mean corporations. Most Republicans and far too many Democrats don't realize they are public servants and are busy serving only themselves and their next election.

[Cha]

24. I love President Obama right where he is and VP Biden right where

he is, PAMatt! They can try to impeach but that doesn't mean he's going anywhere.. those Two make an Indomitable Team!





h/t she.. http://www.democraticunderground.com/11027031#post29

They have our backs and each others as well and I have theirs.

[sheshe2]

26. Thanks, Cha~

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[Cha]

28. Rofl I love they have such a great sense of humor.. shows

good perception and imagination, she.



I believe that's a general reaction to anyone's whining. They are the ones who are brilliantly focused while doing the heavy lifting.

With the Help of their fams, of course..

[cui bono]

47. Wait a sec... are they at a gay dance?

And there was no right wing outrage about this???

[AnnieK401]

25. Love This!

[Shrike47]

27. I love Biden but I'm tired of the ReThug impeachment meme.

We try to get something done. They try to win the next election. I wish voters would see that.

[JustAnotherGen]

29. I had to tweet this thread

Beautiful!

[Kath1]

30. Awesome post!

Joe's record is excellent and speaks for itself, but I want President Obama to stay in the White House. I'm getting the feeling most people feel the same way.

[madokie]

33. I think the world of Joe Biden

He has been one of my favorite congress critters since I've been paying attention. For the most part I'm on the same side of every issue as he is and or has been. I'd like to see him takes the reigns after Obama because he is as close to an average person as anyone out there. What I call average people are people who like us lives and works and plays by the rules. Big fuck'n deal Biden is the real deal.

[kitt6]

34. They don't have anything to impeach on.

This experience has taught me something I never really knew. The deep dark insecurities of many white men. That's not appealing at all.

[truebluegreen]

37. An impeachable offense is anything the House says it is.

The Senate may not agree.

[IrishAyes]

56. You should've heard

what one of them wailed in Sunday School class one day after complaining about immigrants. "It's like we don't count anymore!"

Boo hoo.

[NewJeffCT]

58. They'll just invent something

if they have to.

[davidpdx]

35. I have the 90th Rec

I did honestly think they'd try to pull the impeachment crap after he won a second term. You never can underestimate how big of an ass the Republicans are.

[hughee99]

41. Yes, I remember when he told Ryan we'd be out of Afghanistan by 2014

"come hell or high water". It was GREAT. It wasn't true, and he knew at the time it wasn't true, but it was great TV.

[Initech]

43. So they impeached Clinton over a blow job and they're trying to impeach Obama on a conspiracy theory

And yet we couldn't impeach Bush for lying us into two illegal immoral wars that cost the lives of thousands of troops, countless civilians, and eroded our status internationally? Get real, GOP. Fuck off.

[harun]

45. Good luck with that GOP. Let us know how it works out for yah.

[cui bono]

46. And he's stated that he's against the Keystone Pipeline!

But stop advertising all of this, you're going to spoil the fun.

[IrishAyes]

50. Mind if I 'borrow' this idea for the local paper?

I've been wondering whether to respond to the letter writer who called Democrats (and by extension, therefore, moi) LYING HYENAS OF SOCIALISM, but I couldn't think of anything funny enough to say that would ever see print. And I do try to restrict my own letters to just a few each year. Going by averages, I'm probably past 21 by now. No wonder the teabaggers are getting tired of listening to me.

But this idea you've presented has just the right tone for the moment. I promise to pass it on in my own words but credit an unnamed source for the thought.

And people wonder why I don't like to talk politics directly with them... sigh.

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

63. Go right ahead!

You should definitely respond to that right winger! I love Joe Biden, and anytime any right-winger brings up how much they would like to see Obama removed from office, I remind them that Biden would take his place, and that Biden, in some ways, is MORE liberal than President Obama is!

[Thinkingabout]

57. Perhaps the rw is hoping for Obama to resign then, this is really mean but poor Joe to

A heart attack and then we would get the orange man Boner. This could really come out badly, don't think they have enough but they are trying. The selection of Cheney gave cover no one would try to knock off W for fear of Cheney as president. Ugly thoughts.

[IrishAyes]

59. This joint's jumpin' tonight!

Can't wander off w/o thanking you for all the beautiful pictures, though. Some of the best I've ever seen. When I get a printer, I won't need to wallpaper the office. Really, if my hard drive crashes it's gonna be all your fault, you ... you Democrats!

[backwoodsbob]

60. awesome post

fucking awesome.
Love me some Joe...a man not afraid to take on the teabaggers

[obxhead]

61. This Guy!

2016.

I'll focus on '13 and '14 for now, but looking forward I would get behind Biden 101% for '16.

[Bette Noir]

65. And he'd have the incumbency advantage in 2016.

[Blue_In_AK]

68. Personally, I always preferred Joe Biden.

President Obama was about #8 on my list.

[smackd]

69. i <3 this (nt)

[freshwest]

73. Just remembered. I feel like your OP is saying:

(walking toward crashed alien plane)

THAT'S RIGHT! THAT'S RIGHT! That's what you get!

Look at you, ship all *banged* up!

Who's the man? Huh? Who's the man?

Wait till I get another plane! I'm-a line all your friends up right beside you!

(climbs on top of alien plane)

Where you at, huh? Huh? Where you at?

(Hiller opens the spaceship. An alien pops up, and Hiller punches it in the head, knocking it back into the ship)

Welcome to Earth!

(sits on alien plane and puts cigar in mouth)

Now that's what *I* call a close encounter.

Y'know, this was supposed to be my weekend off. But no!

You got me out here, draggin' your heavy ass, through the burnin' desert, with your dreadlocks sticking out the back of my parachute.

You gotta come down here with an attitude, actin' all big and bad.

And what the hell is that smell?!

(screams and kicks the alien)

I could've been at a barbecue!

But I ain't mad...