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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sat May 11, 2013, 07:40 PM May 2013

France refuses to pay slavery reparations

France refuses to pay slavery reparations

French President François Hollande announced on Friday that France would not be paying reparations for the role of the state-owned CDC bank in the slave trade, despite allegations that a €21 billion debt has crippled Haiti for centuries.

Hollande on Friday ruled out the payment of reparations for slavery as a rights group announced a suit against state-owned bank CDC over its role in the trade.

"What has been, has been," Hollande said in a speech to mark France's slavery remembrance day. "History cannot be rubbed out. It cannot be subjected to an accounting process that... would be impossible to complete."

France's Representative Council of Black Associations (CRAN) announced it will on Monday be serving a writ on the bank CDC (Caisse des depots) over its role in the slave trade in general and events surrounding Haitian independence in particular.

http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/france-refuses-to-pay-slavery-reparations#.UY7Vykr4KSo

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Archae

(46,327 posts)
2. "Slavery reparations" are a farce.
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:54 PM
May 2013

Who collects the money?
Who hands it out?

And to whom?

The only people who will get anything substancial from reparations will be lawyers.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
3. Haiti got to pay reparations...
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:21 PM
May 2013

to those poor unfortunate slave owners (i.e. the French) for the loss of their property...

The long and the short of it is that Haiti was paying reparations to France from 1825 until 1947," says Von Tunzelmann. "To come up with the money, it took out huge loans from American, German and French banks, at exorbitant rates of interest. By 1900, Haiti was spending about 80% of its national budget on loan repayments. It ­completely wrecked their economy. By the time the original reparations and interest were paid off, the place was basically destitute and trapped in a ­spiral of debt. Plus, a succession of leaders had more or less given up on trying to resolve Haiti's problems, and started looting it instead."

Do you think something like this shouldn't be addressed because it is just too hard?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
6. Did you understand what Truebluegreen wrote?
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:27 PM
May 2013

What do you mean by your post? Are you saying the money that Haiti had to pay France didn't do any good for Haitians, because well, no kidding? Or what are you saying?

Archae

(46,327 posts)
9. Except the French had records, (or said they did,) so it was clear who had lost what.
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:33 PM
May 2013

Now, just finding who would "owe" money would be a bureaucratic nightmare. At best.

And let alone FINDING the people "owed" that money...

No, reparations is an unrealistic pipe dream, and like I said, the only people who would benefit are the lawyers.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
10. I don't think you understand.
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:43 PM
May 2013

The country of Haiti paid France for 'compensation' for the loss of 'property' the French lost when the Haitians heroically overthrew their oppressors. That so called 'property' was in large part the Haitians themselves. Haiti got backed into a corner and was forced to pay. The country never really recovered from that, as Truebluegreen explained clearly.

Many people believe that France should return that money to Haiti as it was an unfair demand in the first place. It has nothing to do with 'finding' anyone.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
8. Indeed - the accounting for trying to reconcile slavery could go back thousands of years.
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:28 PM
May 2013

I cant even begin to imagine how complex it could get if one really wanted to take this principle to its logical conclusion.

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