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(85,996 posts)
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:30 AM May 2013

*NO* one could have predicted THIS

tweeted by, Eric W. Dolan ‏@EWDolan 5m
‘Armed security officer’ accidentally shoots student at Aurora school http://bit.ly/16atJvB (Raw Story)

____ A man who police said had a second job as an “armed security officer” was being investigated after he accidentally shot a student Rangeview High School in Aurora, Colorado on Monday.

According to KMGH-TV, a school employee who also has a second job as a security officer had offered a student a ride home at the end of the day. The gun discharged, hitting the student in the leg, when the school employee tried to secure his weapon in the glove box of the car.

The man took the student to a nearby hospital, where he was rushed into surgery with a “significant injury,” police said. The injuries were not expected to be fatal.

It was not immediately clear what type of work the man did for the school, but police said that he was not a teacher.


read: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/14/armed-security-officer-accidentally-shoots-student-at-aurora-school/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


. . .now IF he WAS a teacher, AND he had a gun . . .

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*NO* one could have predicted THIS (Original Post) bigtree May 2013 OP
YEAP!! THIS should be the front page story EVERYWHERE! I pray the district has good liability uponit7771 May 2013 #1
another TheFutureWillCome May 2013 #2
The problem is that the victim was unarmed. Buzz Clik May 2013 #3
OK everyone raise your hands if you didn't see this one coming. LOL southernyankeebelle May 2013 #4
Was this "school employee" carrying his gatt in the school? rdharma May 2013 #5
Because it isn't enough Shankapotomus May 2013 #6
'The Only Thing That Stops a Bad Guy With a Gun ....' Is an idiot with a gun? dmr May 2013 #7
Just so many idiots around Bay Boy May 2013 #8
"the gun discharged" . . . hmmmmm - that seems contrary to what the gunners keep saying DrDan May 2013 #9
It's extremely unlikely Bay Boy May 2013 #11
Probably snagged it on his gun safety manual while putting it in the glove box Orrex May 2013 #19
Thread winner! Bay Boy May 2013 #23
DUzy malaise May 2013 #24
Why is he moving it to the glove box at all? AtheistCrusader May 2013 #29
Ninja mall cop... Bay Boy May 2013 #32
A wanna be cop/gun for hire, what could possibly go wrong? liberal N proud May 2013 #10
fortunately, legs know the difference between terrorism bullets and accident bullets. unblock May 2013 #12
Totally to be expected. The answer isnt more guns, its get them out of our communities. nt stevenleser May 2013 #13
It's the NRA's dream to put one of these guys in EVERY school! bullwinkle428 May 2013 #14
Yes, but if everyone had a gun on them at all times, accidental discharges would be less common. denverbill May 2013 #15
Oh, come on. randome May 2013 #16
I'm shocked and dismayed duhneece May 2013 #17
"The gun discharged..when..tried to secure weapon in glove box"? uppityperson May 2013 #18
please don't blame the nra for the actions of RedstDem May 2013 #20
Why was he offering a student a ride? SomethingFishy May 2013 #21
Yeah, that's pretty messed up Orrex May 2013 #25
Especially not someone who would AtheistCrusader May 2013 #30
Wow... Mr. X May 2013 #22
So, gun became sentient and decided to shoot someone? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #26
In this case, getting shot may have been a blessing in disguise apples and oranges May 2013 #27
I think the solution is obvious... Kalidurga May 2013 #28
Another link states that the security guard won't be charged pugetres May 2013 #31
According to the NRA caseymoz May 2013 #33
More GUNZ etherealtruth May 2013 #34
But did he do it responsibly? rucky May 2013 #35
Another Four Rules failure. ManiacJoe May 2013 #36
Can't we the NTSB to advocate for only good glove boxes in cars? Thor_MN May 2013 #37
if the victim had been armed he could have shot the security guard samsingh May 2013 #38

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. YEAP!! THIS should be the front page story EVERYWHERE! I pray the district has good liability
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:32 AM
May 2013

...insurance, the payments on this one is going to smart

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
5. Was this "school employee" carrying his gatt in the school?
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
May 2013

I ask that because he was "securing the gun" when he accidently shot the student. Begs the question...... where was the gun BEFORE the student got in the car?

dmr

(28,347 posts)
7. 'The Only Thing That Stops a Bad Guy With a Gun ....' Is an idiot with a gun?
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:48 AM
May 2013


This should not have been allowed to happen, & I hope with all my heart that we never hear anything worse happening in our schools.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
8. Just so many idiots around
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:58 AM
May 2013


And let me add he probably shouldn't have even been offering a ride to a student. There are just too many ways for that go bad even without the gun entering into the story.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
11. It's extremely unlikely
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:04 AM
May 2013

that the gun just discharged without some help from his trigger finger. A trigger finger that should not have been near the trigger while moving it to the glove box.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
29. Why is he moving it to the glove box at all?
Tue May 14, 2013, 02:07 PM
May 2013

Isn't the idea of a concealed pistol not to ... reveal it? When I get into a car, I don't take my gun out and put it in the glove box IN FRONT OF THE PASSENGER. Shit, he could be presumed not to be in possession of the gun at all, leaving it there, meaning, it should be unloaded as well. (at least, in my state, you would)

That's why you just leave it where it is.

Every time you fuck around with a gun on your person, you introduce risk. That's how people drop guns and shoot themselves taking a shit, holstering a weapon they were showing to someone, etc. Don't do it. There's no REASON to do it. ESPECIALLY in this case, with a kid in the car, who will see it, who then is in closer proximity to it than the owner, etc.

This was just flat assed stupid.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
15. Yes, but if everyone had a gun on them at all times, accidental discharges would be less common.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:55 AM
May 2013

Somehow.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Oh, come on.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:59 AM
May 2013

If the student had been armed -and properly trained- he could have whipped out his gun, fired and deflected that bullet from the glove compartment quite handily.

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RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
20. please don't blame the nra for the actions of
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:54 PM
May 2013

An armed glove box. If the students leg also had a gun, this would have gone down differently.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
25. Yeah, that's pretty messed up
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:29 PM
May 2013

I don't know that I'd be comfortable having my daughter driven home from school by some random jackass who sounds like he shouldn't have been on school property in the first place!

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
30. Especially not someone who would
Tue May 14, 2013, 02:09 PM
May 2013

leave a gun in closer proximity to a child, than to themselves.

There's just no damn reason for him to have done this. Like ok, you were going to put it in the glove compartment in front of a kid? Tell me more about your idiotic line of logic BEFORE you pulled the trigger.

 

Mr. X

(72 posts)
22. Wow...
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:06 PM
May 2013

So much for the NRA's comment about the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy for a gun. So far the only thing the good guy with a gun has done is harm a student. Really - With good guys like these, who needs bad guys?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
26. So, gun became sentient and decided to shoot someone?
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:32 PM
May 2013

I think the real story will is "I was dicking around with a loaded firearm and shot someone."

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
27. In this case, getting shot may have been a blessing in disguise
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:33 PM
May 2013

Offering a student a ride home? Pedophile much?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. I think the solution is obvious...
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:51 PM
May 2013

we have to stop arming glove boxes and purses. They are rarely responsible in the way they handle firearms.

 

pugetres

(507 posts)
31. Another link states that the security guard won't be charged
Tue May 14, 2013, 02:25 PM
May 2013

since "legal for him to have the gun." http://kwgn.com/2013/05/13/police-staff-worker-accidentally-shoots-student-outside-rangeview-h-s/

So, does that mean that when I'm legally driving my licensed car and I accidently kill someone when I hit the gas instead of the break, I won't be charged?

Why do these idiots keep getting a pass as long as they kill with a gun?

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
33. According to the NRA
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:28 PM
May 2013

the security guard should have also had a gun in his other hand two his pockets, and one in his sock. Then something magical would have taken place and the rate of gun accidents, suicides and homicides would go down.

Guns: they make good people gooder.
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
37. Can't we the NTSB to advocate for only good glove boxes in cars?
Tue May 14, 2013, 09:13 PM
May 2013

Or maybe TWO gloveboxes so that the good one could prevent the bad one from shooting passengers?

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
38. if the victim had been armed he could have shot the security guard
Wed May 15, 2013, 09:46 AM
May 2013

how serious are gun lovers when they promote these flawed ideas?

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