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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Nye Boo'd In Texas For Saying The Moon Reflects The Sun
Fucking reflected light -- how does it work?
As even most elementary-school graduates know, the moon reflects the light of the sun but produces no light of its own.
But don't tell that to the good people of Waco, who were "visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence," according to the Waco Tribune.
Nye was in town to participate in McLennan Community College's Distinguished Lecture Series. He gave two lectures on such unfunny and adult topics as global warming, Mars exploration, and energy consumption.
But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."
The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector.
At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected.
This story originally appeared in the Waco Tribune, but the newspaper has mysteriously pulled its story from the online version, presumably to avoid further embarrassment.
http://www.thinkatheist.com/m/blogpost?id=1982180%3ABlogPost%3A44493
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)WTF is up with posting ancient crap?
Occulus
(20,599 posts)and people aren't bothering to check or get their news from other sources, so....
It's not a good thing at all, IMO.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and re-hash is with onion
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Dredging up old shit just provides a new stink.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)and it outraged me seeing it 59 years later
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it
-George Santayana
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)What especially is wrong with posting old news? It's a big site; it can take it.
Edit: what's more, as of this moment it has 63 recs.
Plus, it seems more than one person (myself included) hadn't heard.
Liberal In Texas
(13,552 posts)somewhere in the post.
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)until I did a search and found it was from a long time ago.
:O
phantom power
(25,966 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)narnian60
(3,510 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)in search of her broken necklace; I felt a perfect ass.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and I am floored by the stupidity.
Quixote1818
(28,936 posts)And even most of them thought it was nuts: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1882976/posts
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)"Nye got booed AGAIN? Why does he keep going back to that place??"
its not Waco. TX , its Wacko Texas .
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)spanone
(135,831 posts)marmar
(77,080 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Initech
(100,075 posts)"He's a witch!!! Get him!!!"
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)even DU members who live in Waco?????
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)It just seems there are so many wacko stories from Waco.
I know some wacko's who moved to Waco, it was very appropriate, I thought.
cordelia
(2,174 posts)Never.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)malaise
(268,997 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)and about twice a year on DU ever since.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)about once every year. But this was the first time I remember seeing it http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002632149#post61
Maybe it gets posted more often in R/T.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Even one yr I went to catholic school. You just can't disute science period. No matter how much you believe in god. You can live with both and also respect to both.
agent46
(1,262 posts)Religion is usually helpful for believing your own bullshit.
RC
(25,592 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)these people are dangerously stupid, there is virtually no difference between christian fundamentalists and islamic fundamentalists The christian taliban is alive and well
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Lol.
byeya
(2,842 posts)onto the earth. One of the holes is for the sun, another, the moon, and lesser ones for the stars. It's in the Bibble.
They were right to walk out. Heresy!
donquijoterocket
(488 posts)enjoy those times when the heavenly light is obstructed by crescent shaped devices that render the sun and moon in odd shapes and block the light. One wonders how these lunatics deal with eclipses. Generally good snark there although with folks like these one too often runs headlong into Poe's Law.
byeya
(2,842 posts)ran into the firmament and dashed themselves and their rocket to bits. It was a terrible day for Americans.
unblock
(52,224 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Too true.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)And I refer to it from time to time. One of my favorites.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)When I look at the moon glowing at night, I can picture the relative position of the sun based on the phase of the moon and how the light is coming off of it.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)it's like a double bank shot. Off the earth, off the moon, back to the earth into the eye socket.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Only 4 years old, this article. I'm as pro-science and anti-religion as the next agnostic, but this is old news being recycled.
Why is that?
Brother Buzz
(36,428 posts)rustydog
(9,186 posts)I like to be reminded just how dangerous ignorance can be.
Marr
(20,317 posts)This story is unusual somehow, as it's regularly brought up and re-posted as if it's new. I don't mean to put any heat on the OP here, honestly-- old or not, it's just as relevant today as it was in 2006, and it always seems to be new to a lot of people who respond to it in the thread. But I do wonder why this story is such a zombie. I mean, it just never lays down.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)At a guess, it's just such a window into how thin the veneer the Enlightenment really is. Scratch the surface, and Carl Sagan's demon haunted world is alive and well.
I mean, we aren't talking about new science like cosmology, or computational biology. This is old, old news. But if you force people to observe that their Bible is in conflict with it, their heads immediately explode.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)in this country. And it's not just the woeful ignorance and the clinging to the mythology of an isolated desert-dwelling people from 2,000 years ago, it's the pugnacity about it. The fact that they get angry when someone dares state a simple scientific fact that has been well-known by non-morons for ages -- well, it's disturbing on a deep level, and it doesn't bode well for the future of this country.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)this rightwing rant gets KNR'ed to the front page on a regular basis http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022736379 no matter how many times it gets debunked http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=652744&mesg_id=658538
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)of the night-time side of the Earth. This way He only had to invent one actual light source (the Sun) and the other could be a simple reflector (the Moon). And with the added bonus that the Moon also creates tides which makes surfing possible. Sheer genius, which, if anything, should reinforce people's faith.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)God thought of it. Hooo-kay.
byeya
(2,842 posts)God created the firmament to separate the earth from the waters above and called it heaven(or something like that).
He kind of fucked up though, made the sun so hot not even a god can get near it
Kind of got away from him like a runaway diesel
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)all forms of life and rendered it sterile.
rustydog
(9,186 posts)probably believe the Theory of Relativity is the concept of dating a first cousin.
Bill Nye could suffer a massive stroke, fall into the path of an oncoming train causing it to run over his head, doctors could remove the worst-damaged parts and IF he survived, Nye would beat any of these fucking goobers in a debate hands down...
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)In fact, he was such a believer in relativity that his wife was not only a first cousin through his mother, but was also a second cousin through his father.
Charles Darwin also married his first cousin.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Wiiiiitch! 'E's a wiiiitch! Buuurn 'em! Buuurn 'em!
G_j
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SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)God is shining a flashlight on it ?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Wonder what the lady's kids think now on the subject of celestial bodies.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)they didn't learn in Home-school or church.
We are correct to believe that level of ignorance is dangerous.
Then again, their kids are the ones who will be working to serve our kids, at McDonalds, and elsewhere.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)who brought up these lines from Genesis - Nye or an audience member ? If Nye brought up these lines specifically to point out a Biblical inaccuracy in order to denigrate religion, then he deserved the reaction he got. I'd like to hear the other side of this story.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Well, I guess that's so. Religion needs an absence of facts and a steady supply of ignorance to keep it in business.
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)If he brought it up, out of the blue, I can see why he got that sort of reaction. I would conclude, in fact, that he was TRYING to get that sort of reaction. And in that sense, I think it was kinda poor judgement, esp. given where he was. Could've made his point (whatever that was) w/o being EXPLICIT in bringing up that Bible was totally in error.
I'm assuming of course that the topic of the lecture wasn't "ways in which the Bible is proven erroneous by Science" ... in which case, it was wholly appropriate, and the people who were upset brought it on themselves.
Now that all that ^^^ is out of the way ... what a bunch of dumb-asses!
Tyrs WolfDaemon
(2,289 posts)But I managed to escape before he finished!"
When asked to comment on Bill Nye's lunar talk Newt replied: "He had better be wrong. My moon colon...colony is to be powered by the same power source that lights it up at night. Once we get up there I'm sure we'll find the coal power plant God installed 6000yrs ago. Also, Callista refuses to have any of those ugly NASA sun thingies in our colon...I mean colony"
eShirl
(18,491 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)"Yup. We oughtta burn that boy at the stake."
lastlib
(23,226 posts)....it might as well be tensor calculus....!
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)I for one thank you for posting this..
I am at a loss for words as to how damn dumb people can be,,can this story be real and not be a joke?
Blue Owl
(50,371 posts)n/t
rightsideout
(978 posts)The Conservatives on my street were concerned that our solar panels would blind them as they drove by. We were also requested to paint the panels to match the roof.
They must actually think the moon really does glow. It must be that magic moon dust.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)Here in AZ, they finally passed a law forbidding HOAs from having rules against roof panels.
kairos12
(12,861 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)AllyCat
(16,187 posts)Scary. Really scary. And these nuts are writing our text books.
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)Last edited Mon May 20, 2013, 01:44 PM - Edit history (1)
I somehow missed this information when it happened. That is crazy
Beacool
(30,247 posts)That explains it. Were the members of his audience standing upright or dragging their knuckles on the ground?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)and there is a man's face on it....
http://dom.net/word/2005/07/moon-cheese.html
Bucky
(54,013 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Thereby guaranteeing some in the crowd would be offended, by what they have no idea. Just some smart guy trying to prove the Bible WRONG! STONE HIM!!!!
Bucky
(54,013 posts)lumpy
(13,704 posts)n
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)We have a lot of Progressives and Dems here, we just don't get AirPlay b/c we don't fit the narrative. Screw the idiot lady who felt like this was an attack on God, small minds will always exist. They do cling to their God and guns! It is hard to argue or explain things to irrational people who refuse to listen and think for themselves.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)goes on a cruise, because they would never come back what with sailing over the edge and all.
I know there are good people in Texas, and I feel sorry for them. Of course I am from Illinois and can't say too much.
amerciti001
(158 posts)they would not have stormed out, they would have demanded off with his head!!!
indepat
(20,899 posts)others.
skip fox
(19,359 posts)Bill Nye: "You see, the moon only reflects the light from the sun."
Voices from audience: "Communist!" "I believe in God. I don't know what you believe in , buster." "Mr. Science Guy, my eye. More like Herr Nazi Joseph Stalin!" "The science of liberal losers!" "We've got nothing to learn from this Bozo!" "He's Marx without the beard!" "Maybe he's got a bomb." etc., etc., etc.
Initech
(100,075 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)I think it's relevant even if it is old. There's a serious cancer here on DU that seems to detest any point of fact or scientific evidence. It's detested and put down immediately no matter the relevance. Seems the scientific method has gone extinct along with the dinosaurs (or Republican reasoning).
Take Care.
-p
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' Isaac Asimov
By the way, I encountered exactly the same response from a Sunday school teacher at my Grandma's fundamentalist church - the one she tried to raise me in. See why I escaped?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)But completely off-topic. My mother used to clean his teeth. She HATED when his appointments would come up. She called him a creepy old man.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I put a period instead of a comma.
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)This story, dated as it is, would have us believe that some nutjob fundamentalists went to a presentation by a person advertized as THE SCIENCE GUY and stormed out in a huff because they were outraged by a little science.
Sounds like a false flag op if you ask me.
D Gary Grady
(133 posts)You know, we should all exercise a little habitual skepticism here, especially of too-good-to-be-true stories we really want to believe, lest we turn into the Good Twin of the Tea Party.
During his talk Bill Nye in passing made a point about how silly a hyper-literal reading the Bible could be, and some audience members apparently misconstrued his remarks to be a general attack on the Bible, and in anger a few of them stormed out. While some accounts say one of the people talking offense shouted something on the order of "We believe in God!" a journalist actually present described the reaction as "a low murmur," and Bill Nye himself said that he did not recall being heckled and pointed out that he received a standing ovation at the end. Even among those taking offense, there's no indication any of them think the Moon shines by its own light.
For a sensible account from a blogger who initially helped spread the rumor, see http://www.examiner.com/article/reporter-of-bill-nye-moonbat-story-speaks
JEB
(4,748 posts)There must have been some pretty dim bulbs in the audience or perhaps they were just reflecting the stupidity from their church.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)why read more? - it could cause confusion!
Kennah
(14,265 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)Until the Latinos take over and transform the state.
In 10 years, the old, white dead wood will be swept aside.
Turbineguy
(37,329 posts)the Man in the Moon lights a lamp every night.
AnnieK401
(541 posts)mwb970
(11,359 posts)Even conservatives can't be THIS stupid. Can they?
BootinUp
(47,144 posts)just look at his face! Those eyebrows! And the costume (bow tie) is meant to fool us!
RitchieRich
(292 posts)I wonder, do they actually believe the moon is a star, or were they offended that he brought it up and quoted the bible just to tear it down.
I am open to the possibility that they actually are that entrenched that they would pretend to believe it, but have doubt. It seems (almost) as unlikely as Nye being unable to predict the reaction, especially given the audience.