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rightsideout

(978 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:55 AM May 2013

Repercussions of the Boy Scouts decision on gays

Just thought of something. I was in Scouts and eventually got my Eagle, a week before my 18th birthday. LOL. But thinking back on that I realized that under the new "gay rule," a gay scout is now out of the scouting program at age 18. Many scouts, at age 18, either go on to Explorers (it could be a different name now), go on to become Jr Assistant Scoutmaster, Assistant Scoutmaster or continue to serve in some leadership capacity in Scouting.

But under the new rules, if you are a gay scout, you are out of the program whether you like it or not at age 18.

It's kind of weird when you think about it. If you are gay and join Scouting as a kid, you will be asked to leave as soon as you turn 18. Why join an organization you know will be eventually be kicked out of?

I imagine that's the best compromise they could come up with. Maybe scouting will secretly come out with some gay deprogramming to get gay kids to go straight. It will be interesting to see what messages they edit into the Scout Handbook on the issue.





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Repercussions of the Boy Scouts decision on gays (Original Post) rightsideout May 2013 OP
I wonder why a similar organization that doesn't descriminate hasn't emerged Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #1
Starting such an organization is tough. MineralMan May 2013 #3
I've been thinking the same thing. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #4
4H Club Lex May 2013 #6
They had 4-H at a school I attended in LuvNewcastle May 2013 #8
It is a compromise and a strategic compromise at that. aikoaiko May 2013 #2
How smart were the Girl Scouts--in never discriinating to begin with... hlthe2b May 2013 #5
Well LostOne4Ever May 2013 #7

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
1. I wonder why a similar organization that doesn't descriminate hasn't emerged
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:14 AM
May 2013

I mean, what really is the BSA? Why does anyone want their childen to be a part of it if they don't share the same values? I'd rather see another organization rise up than see the BSA reluctantly and half-ass change when it's probably not sincere in the first place.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
3. Starting such an organization is tough.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:20 AM
May 2013

There should be one, and there probably are small, local organizations for youths that don't discriminate as the BSA has done for a long time. But, creating a large, nationwide organization is very difficult, especially when its focus is narrow. The BSA has still not taken the entire step it needs to take. I hope they will do that.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
4. I've been thinking the same thing.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:22 AM
May 2013

I never was in Scouts. The whole Scouting thing looked kind of dorky to me; I don't know why. I never wanted to be in a single-sex organization. I always thought it would suck not to have any girls around. Some of my best friends were girls. There should be an organization for the disorganized laid-back kids.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
6. 4H Club
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:24 AM
May 2013

A friend and I were discussing this same thing and she said had a blast in 4H club as a kid. Lots of activities and pretty laid back.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
8. They had 4-H at a school I attended in
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:32 AM
May 2013

the 3rd grade, but we moved and I never saw one again in other schools I attended. It's a shame I missed out.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
2. It is a compromise and a strategic compromise at that.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:17 AM
May 2013

It will be patently obvious how ridiculous the rule is when the situation you described emerges more and more over time.

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
5. How smart were the Girl Scouts--in never discriinating to begin with...
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:22 AM
May 2013

Remember that folks come cookie season.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
7. Well
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:27 AM
May 2013

A half assed measure is better than no measure. I definitely applaud them for this step and hope that the next few steps will come quickly so that they might one day be as inclusive as the Girl Scouts of America.

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