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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:06 AM May 2013

1 Black Man Is Killed Every 28 Hours by Police or Vigilantes: How America Is Perpetually at War With

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1 Black Man Is Killed Every 28 Hours by Police or Vigilantes: How America Is Perpetually at War With Its Own People


Police officers, security guards, or self-appointed vigilantes extrajudicially killed at least 313 African-Americans in 2012 according to a recent study. This means a black person was killed by a security officer every 28 hours. The report notes that it's possible that the real number could be much higher.

The report, entitled "Operation Ghetto Storm", was performed by the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, an antiracist grassroots activist organization. The organization has chapters in Atlanta, Detroit, Fort Worth-Dallas, Jackson, New Orleans, New York City, Oakland, and Washington, D.C. It has a history of organizing campaigns against police brutality and state repression in black and brown communities. Their study's sources included police and media reports along with other publicly available information. Last year, the organization published a similar study showing that a black person is killed by security forces every 36 hours. However, this study did not tell the whole story, as it only looked at shootings from January to June 2012. Their latest study is an update of this.

These killings come on top of other forms of oppression black people face. Mass incarceration ofnonwhites is one of them. While African-Americans constitute 13.1% of the nation's population, they make up nearly 40% of the prison population. Even though African-Americans use or sell drugs about the same rate as whites, they are 2.8 to 5.5 times more likely to be arrested for drugs than whites. Black offenders also receive longer sentences compared to whites. Most offenders are in prison for nonviolent drug offenses.

"Operation Ghetto Storm" explains why such killings occur so often. Current practices of institutional racism have roots in the enslavement of black Africans, whose labor was exploited to build the American capitalist economy, and the genocide of Native Americans. The report points out that in order to maintain the systems of racism, colonialism, and capitalist exploitation, the United States maintains a network of "repressive enforcement structures". These structures include the police, FBI, Homeland Security, CIA, Secret Service, prisons, and private security companies, along with mass surveillance and mass incarceration.
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1 Black Man Is Killed Every 28 Hours by Police or Vigilantes: How America Is Perpetually at War With (Original Post) xchrom May 2013 OP
k/r marmar May 2013 #1
I can't come up with anything to say, so ... LisaLynne May 2013 #2
Kick, kick, kick!!!! Heidi May 2013 #3
It also has the effect of removing a large portion of the black vote. It would be an extreme Dustlawyer May 2013 #4
This is why racism is about more than words. Pragdem May 2013 #5
Agreed. Lunacee_2013 May 2013 #14
systemic vs. individual racism noiretextatique May 2013 #18
K&R ReRe May 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Bully Taw May 2013 #7
disgusting that black men... Bully Taw May 2013 #8
since heaven05 May 2013 #9
so true noiretextatique May 2013 #19
How do American blacks look at African blacks? toby jo May 2013 #10
you don't seem to see blacks as being part of our society Enrique May 2013 #12
i am not sure what you mean noiretextatique May 2013 #20
you're heaven05 Jun 2013 #24
horrid n/t RainDog May 2013 #11
1 in every 20 African American Homicides is by a vigilante? One_Life_To_Give May 2013 #13
no, it is a terrible thing hfojvt May 2013 #16
tsk heaven05 Jun 2013 #25
zimmmerman noiretextatique May 2013 #21
Using the failed "drug war" money on inner-city education Socal31 May 2013 #15
There seems to be a "white man's club" at the center of this siligut May 2013 #17
That's 1 in 100,000 every year, unless I'm a power of 10 out? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #22
god heaven05 Jun 2013 #26
Hey, I have a great idea. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2013 #29
you heaven05 Jun 2013 #30
K&R For visibility. felix_numinous May 2013 #23
93% of African American homicide victims were killed by African Americans Peregrine Jun 2013 #27
you heaven05 Jun 2013 #28

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
2. I can't come up with anything to say, so ...
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:18 AM
May 2013

k&R. Just ... so wrong and sad and disgusting and just overwhelming.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
4. It also has the effect of removing a large portion of the black vote. It would be an extreme
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:46 AM
May 2013

example of voter suppression, but what voter suppression isn't extreme. It's been going on longer than their more recent attempts! We need COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM, to coin a phrase, "We need to take our country back!" At least get our Representative government back from the corporations and the 1%!!! Minorities, including blacks are under-represented and now we can see another reason why!

 

Pragdem

(233 posts)
5. This is why racism is about more than words.
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:51 AM
May 2013

Fellow whites that try to say black people can be racist too disgust me.

Who the fuck cares? It's not the same. It doesn't have the same history.

Nothing is ingrained in society that makes white people more susceptible to excessive police force.

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
14. Agreed.
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:51 AM
May 2013

You wouldn't believe how many times I've had to explain to other white ppl why we don't get to use the n-word.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
18. systemic vs. individual racism
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
May 2013

some white people simply refuse to acknowledge the difference between the two, which makes it very difficult to discuss issues, e.g., reparations. or anything remotely related to race, for that matter.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
6. K&R
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:45 AM
May 2013

It's really a shame we can't K&R this more than once. We absolutely must change priorities in this country. This report is just disgusting. Thanks, xchrom....

Response to xchrom (Original post)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. since
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:40 AM
May 2013

Last edited Thu May 30, 2013, 02:17 PM - Edit history (1)

plymouth rock, started with the red man, still going on with 'others'. Never stopped. How totally hate filled and disgusting portions of this populace are. Very sad and telling of amerikkkan culture.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
10. How do American blacks look at African blacks?
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:19 AM
May 2013

Do you feel you've benefitted from a cultural exchange?

Honestly! Anything? Willing to go back?

I'm asking for the fine line between genetic reality and cultural, from the people living it.

I look at Africa, and aside from the physical sheer beauty of it, the culture strikes me as violent, and, like all violent prone cultures, backwards. The grace of the people can be stunning. A different turn of thought therein, for certain.
I see it as one of the faces of man, and just move on.

So where do you folks fall on this? I'm not in it, just looking in from the outside, and wondering.

(Poster is correct, racism hides what, whitey?)

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
12. you don't seem to see blacks as being part of our society
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:41 AM
May 2013

responding to a story about blacks being killed with a suggestion about "going back" to Africa.

And about what "strikes you" when you "look at Africa," that is what is known as prejudice. It has nothing to do with Africa, it's all about you.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
13. 1 in every 20 African American Homicides is by a vigilante?
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:54 AM
May 2013

While it is troubling. It's only one factor in a very big problem.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
16. no, it is a terrible thing
Thu May 30, 2013, 12:02 PM
May 2013

when white cops gun down an armed black man who has killed other black people.

If they weren't so racist, they would not be trying to capture those suspected murderers and/or drug dealers.

Yeah, a vigilante is a private citizen who gets the drop on a would-be armed robber.

Race baiting articles like this are just sickening.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
21. zimmmerman
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:12 PM
May 2013

is an example. as is the white guy who shot at some kids because their music was too loud. i believe at least one of them died.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
15. Using the failed "drug war" money on inner-city education
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:58 AM
May 2013

and job programs would put a gigantic dent in deaths throughout the impoverished black, latino, and white communities.

No reason for "territory" and hope for a legitimate life = no reason to illegally obtain or use a weapon.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
17. There seems to be a "white man's club" at the center of this
Thu May 30, 2013, 12:10 PM
May 2013

The good ol' boys sort of deal, they are members of other groups and seek to perpetuate this system.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
22. That's 1 in 100,000 every year, unless I'm a power of 10 out?
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:18 PM
May 2013

There are a *lot* of people in the USA. Almost any problem looks horrific when you scale it up by tens of millions.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
26. god
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jun 2013

blessed amerikkka with the progeny of slaves and the slave master right? So according to you there is no problem, right?

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
29. Hey, I have a great idea.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jun 2013

Why don't *I* tell *you* what *I* think, and you can respond by telling me what *you* think. This "you tell me what I think" business doesn't really lead to a productive debate, especially when what you think I think is so wildly inaccurate.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
30. you
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)

post what you think you know, and I will know what I know without any source like you needed by me. Apologists and people who rationalize this racist culture just perpetuate said culture and it's actions. With said people debate and solution is impossible. You're entitled.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
23. K&R For visibility.
Thu May 30, 2013, 05:23 PM
May 2013

It is up to us to keep these facts out of the shadows. How sad that this country has not learned from the past. That we are all one, and once one group is allowed to be singled out, so can every one else.

Peregrine

(992 posts)
27. 93% of African American homicide victims were killed by African Americans
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jun 2013

African Amricans comprise 49% of all homicide victims in 2005 according to crime statistics [link:http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf] and 93% were committed by African Americans.

[link:http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf|

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
28. you
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:25 PM - Edit history (4)

did not read that report thoroughly. You skewed the statistics to fit YOUR model. Don't get me wrong, on reflection I WILL NOT deny that black males in certain circles are very vicious toward each other, which I do ascribe to a lot of residual self-hate because of this racist culture, but your 93% is high and not to be believed especially after I read your link report. Example: 14 year old with puppy in hand is subject to choke hold because he gave a "dehumanizing stare" to to a local security enforcer? Trayvon Martin 17 year old, unarmed, got shot and killed because he was deemed NOT to fit into the neighborhood has was shot and killed in(profiled is the word) Stop and frisk law in new york city has impacted blacks much higher than whites. (racial profiling are the words). Please, apologists and scape goaters for this racist culture just perpetuate the problem and don't solve a thing.

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