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But was Michael Hastings on the White House's secret kill list? (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 OP
Well of course it's secret Doctor_J Jun 2013 #1
and why the fuck would he be on the list rufus dog Jun 2013 #2
I don't know. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #3
Are you familiar with Hastings' reporting? dflprincess Jun 2013 #5
Absolute crap post. Agreed. It's not discourse it's complete and utter paranoia. This is DU not Alex okaawhatever Jun 2013 #31
OK, you're not familiar with Manny's style (which drives me crazy half the time, but anyhoo....) cali Jun 2013 #36
Lots of crap posts on DU lately. Have you objected to all of them? Just asking, you may have sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #42
No. Just finally got pushed over the edge. I've made comments that opposed certain posts but okaawhatever Jun 2013 #47
Can't let idiots get to you. I don't, been on online political forums for too long to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #48
DoD: “Hammer this fact home . . . leaking is tantamount to aiding the enemies of the United States” Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #4
Fabulous. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #7
Really, Manny - little blue links? dflprincess Jun 2013 #6
so you ask me rufus dog Jun 2013 #8
Ummm, my comment about the color of the link to the New York Times article dflprincess Jun 2013 #18
The 'little blue links'.... one_voice Jun 2013 #21
Relax. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #9
If you like bullshit porn it is great rufus dog Jun 2013 #12
I was teasing Manny dflprincess Jun 2013 #15
Oh, of course. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #17
Reminds me of this Tom the Dancing Bug: Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #10
The first time I read that, it was funny as hell. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #11
I'm trying to think of a Control-Z Jun 2013 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #14
WTF?? Control-Z Jun 2013 #19
I'm so, so sorry. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #22
Dear sweet Christ...WTF was that???? nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #28
What that was was beyond stupid. MineralMan Jun 2013 #39
4-2, which means two DUers are off their rockers. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #43
Hmph! nt MineralMan Jun 2013 #44
OMG what is going on around here? We are all Glenn Beck now? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #16
Post like this really make this place look unhinged Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #20
Only to n00bs and the completely literal minded Fumesucker Jun 2013 #23
Yes, but nuance or not Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #24
That's one of the problems with things like secret kill lists, they feed a conspiratorial worldview Fumesucker Jun 2013 #25
I have a big problem with the secret kill list too Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #27
Why so desperate? whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #33
What do you mean? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #37
Check out post #14 for some really unhinged shit. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #35
No, it's unhinged people who believe stuff like this that make DU look unhinged. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #40
yeh, stupid Whisp Jun 2013 #26
No. It's not like the government ever did anything like kill innocent civilians or give LSD to a Lint Head Jun 2013 #29
Do you suspect President Obama is guilty of having Hastings murdered? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #41
This has nothing to do with President Obama. But it 'could' or 'could not' have something to do Lint Head Jun 2013 #45
Hastings himself noted that the poweful people he pissed off don't geek tragedy Jun 2013 #46
He's dead so we can do nothing but speculate. Bullying and whispering campaigns can lead to Lint Head Jun 2013 #49
is this the same list Breitbart and the gun nuts who died were on JI7 Jun 2013 #30
maybe it was manny's list? sigmasix Jun 2013 #32
Elizabeth Warren will own that list in 2017 right? treestar Jun 2013 #34
Given all the journalists, real and wannabes, who MineralMan Jun 2013 #38
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
1. Well of course it's secret
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jun 2013

A PUBLIC kill list would probably incite unrest among the hoi polloi. Maybe not in the BOG though.

I too agree that the Repukes are worse. My problem is that the DC Dems are trying to become MORE like them instead of less.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
2. and why the fuck would he be on the list
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jun 2013

enlighten me

And think, throwing shit for the sake of throwing shit is a habit of those less evolved.

and for any jurors who have to review this post. It is a friggen callout, because this OP does not rise above shit throwing.

okaawhatever

(9,478 posts)
31. Absolute crap post. Agreed. It's not discourse it's complete and utter paranoia. This is DU not Alex
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 01:01 AM
Jun 2013

Jones. Manny is unhappy because he doesn't have twenty different anti-Obama articles to post today so they're just making up their own stuff. Sad.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
36. OK, you're not familiar with Manny's style (which drives me crazy half the time, but anyhoo....)
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:57 AM
Jun 2013

Manny is making a point using something perceived as absurd. the point he is making is the grotesqueness of having a "secret kill list".

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
42. Lots of crap posts on DU lately. Have you objected to all of them? Just asking, you may have
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jun 2013

I don't read everything here.

okaawhatever

(9,478 posts)
47. No. Just finally got pushed over the edge. I've made comments that opposed certain posts but
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jun 2013

my responses were more traditional.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
48. Can't let idiots get to you. I don't, been on online political forums for too long to
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jun 2013

be bothered too much by the usual small contingency of morons present on all of them. Nothing ever changes, same tactics 'if I can't defend a position or my favorite politician, go on the attack'. I'd love to see some new tactics so it wouldn't be so yawn inducing. But, small minds are not known for their deep thinking.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
4. DoD: “Hammer this fact home . . . leaking is tantamount to aiding the enemies of the United States”
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jun 2013

So, interestingly, he actually could have been on a secret kill list for his work. I'm not saying he was, mind you. I'm saying he could have been. I guess it all depends on who's drawing up the kill list that week.

Quote in subject per this DU OP.

PB

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
8. so you ask me
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

"Are you familiar with Hastings' reporting?

and then ask for a link?

Do you want a link to a porn site? Because this is a masturbatory bullshit thread!

dflprincess

(28,089 posts)
18. Ummm, my comment about the color of the link to the New York Times article
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:03 PM
Jun 2013

was directed to Manny. It was in a different post from the one where I asked you whether or not you had read the article.


one_voice

(20,043 posts)
21. The 'little blue links'....
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jun 2013

comment was wink wink call out of another poster here.

It's turned into high school...

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
12. If you like bullshit porn it is great
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

But then again I expect you knew you were producing bullshit porn.

dflprincess

(28,089 posts)
15. I was teasing Manny
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jun 2013

I hope you didn't take it the wrong way.

(BTW - I did follow the "blue link" and read the article.)

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
11. The first time I read that, it was funny as hell.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

Now it's a little less funny.

But still funny, so thanks!

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
13. I'm trying to think of a
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

respectable way to tell you what I think of you, Manny. But I've got nothing that won't get me kicked off the board.

There is no going "too far" for you, is there?

Response to Control-Z (Reply #13)

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
22. I'm so, so sorry.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jun 2013

But know that your mother has saved the lives of many others. She is an icon that reminds us all of why we fight for what we fight for.

Peace.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
23. Only to n00bs and the completely literal minded
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jun 2013

Those of us familiar with DU and with the concept of nuance understand that not everything said here is completely serious.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
24. Yes, but nuance or not
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jun 2013

Michael Hastings just died in a tragic and fiery car wreck....conspiracy theorists are going nuts over his death.

This OP is very inappropriate IMO.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
25. That's one of the problems with things like secret kill lists, they feed a conspiratorial worldview
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:42 AM
Jun 2013

How could it be otherwise?

"I have in my hand a list of 205 names."



 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
27. I have a big problem with the secret kill list too
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:45 AM
Jun 2013

always have, but trying to make the point this way is poor form....especially so soon after Hastings' death.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
29. No. It's not like the government ever did anything like kill innocent civilians or give LSD to a
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jun 2013

secret agent or inject African American men with syphilis or trade missiles to Iran for hostages or lie about the number of enemy killed in battle or contaminate the atmosphere with radiation or lie about WMD or torture anyone. It's not like a Four Star General lost his position or anything. Right? You need to totally trust that there is no one in the military or formerly in the military that would ever subversively do anything like that. Things like a decorated veteran blowing up a federal building full of innocent people? You got to be kidding.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
45. This has nothing to do with President Obama. But it 'could' or 'could not' have something to do
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jun 2013

with the military or rogue military elements. Revenge for McChrystal is not out of the question. Considering we live in a free country with free speech it is actually OK to ask that question. And questions are all I or anyone else have until the results of a a postmortem.

I imagine the best scenario, if there is a best, is that it was just speeding resulting in an accident. Odds say it was just an accident. But considering the victim and circumstance, there is a 'very small' chance it was not. We even have the freedom in this country to speculate about things that have very small chances of happening. Considering human nature when it comes to revenge, it is not without speculation.
http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-hastings-on-stanley-mcchrystal-2013-6

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
46. Hastings himself noted that the poweful people he pissed off don't
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 01:15 PM
Jun 2013

get revenge via trying to kill people, they do it by trying to discredit people, bullying, whisper campaigns, etc.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
49. He's dead so we can do nothing but speculate. Bullying and whispering campaigns can lead to
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jun 2013

someone listening and taking matters into their own hands. Maybe he was just speeding down a residential street. Hit a tree and exploded. Or maybe his accelerator got stuck 'somehow'. Accelerators getting stuck has happened before. It's ironic to have some one who is so careful in a war zone yet doesn't take care on a two way street in a metropolitan area. Whatever, I predict they will say he was driving too fast or something that is common to people exploding in wrecked cars.

I do not believe he was on a "kill list".

JI7

(89,281 posts)
30. is this the same list Breitbart and the gun nuts who died were on
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jun 2013

the youtube gun nut guy and Chris Kyle.

sigmasix

(794 posts)
32. maybe it was manny's list?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:39 AM
Jun 2013

someone as plugged in as manny must have friends in high places- how hard would it be? No one really believes that criminal wealthy organizations wouldnt use innocent-seeming, random message-board-posters like manny to carry-out thier crimes. Does Manny have a character hit list supplied by Alex Jones? Did Manny use it to help America's enemies in their attacks on our national cohesion?

Given the OP, I believe this to be an appropriate response within the bounds of DU rules.

MineralMan

(146,341 posts)
38. Given all the journalists, real and wannabes, who
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:24 PM
Jun 2013

post negative stories about the Obama administration, that would be a long list, indeed, wouldn't it? That, alone, makes me think his death was an accident, caused by excessive speed while driving.

The idea that the administration is going around killing journalists who post negative stories is just too far-fetched to have any credibility, it seems to me.

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