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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:40 PM

 

Europeans are hiding a terrible secret

Last edited Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)

If Europeans have nothing to hide, why should they even give a thought to being on the receiving end of our Spy on Everyone™ program? Yet they seem genuinely rattled.

One of the things I really like about the Spy on Everyone™ law is that all encrypted communication can be stored by the White House forever; we know that only evil-doers encrypt communications. And thus we know that all phone calls, almost all email transported over the Internet, and all online financial transactions are evil. So we need to spy on them.

Like resisting arrest, evading spying is proof positive of guilt.

The Europeans should be deeply ashamed of what they've done, whatever it is. But, Make No Mistake™, we will find out what it is, and we will bring Europe to justice.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

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MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 OP
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #1
MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #2
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #3
Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #4
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #6
Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #8
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #11
MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #13
Kolesar Jun 2013 #5
muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #7
Kolesar Jun 2013 #9
Safetykitten Jun 2013 #10
Zorra Jun 2013 #12
Enthusiast Jun 2013 #15
MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #19
Enthusiast Jun 2013 #14
backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #16
reformist2 Jun 2013 #17
gvstn Jun 2013 #18

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:43 PM

1. Even ...

 

as they spy on the U.S.

(Yes, I ignored the rest of your post to answer your rhetorical question)

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:44 PM

2. Yes, of course!

 

And you know this how...?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:51 PM

3. It has to be true ...

 

I read it on the internets!

But to believe that every soveriegn nation-state, with the capacity, is NOT spying on every other nation ... is a display of a special kind of special.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:59 PM

4. But Mommy! Johnny does it too! His Mommy lets him!

 

I think I've heard that sort of argument before.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:09 PM

6. Yes ...

 

it's used quite often ... most frequently, to refute pointing out that others are doing what you're criticizing me for.

But that said, so I guess you advocate that the U.S., unilaterally, stop doing what you object to, even as others are doing the same thing?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:19 PM

8. I object to using 'they do it too' as reason to do anything.

 

I also dislike the phrase 'that said' because it means nothing. You have no reason nor standing to guess what I advocate when I am here to do that for myself. I advocate not using 'they do it too' as a substitute for ethics. Do you think it is a suitable and mature replacement for a moral system? 'They do it, thus it is right for me to do it' is enough for you? You would raise your children to live by such a creed?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:32 PM

11. Okay ...

 

I object to using 'they do it too' as reason to do anything.


That works on some levels; but not on others ... like ... international affairs, defense, and alot of other things. When the other side gets/has/doesn't something; we should be willing and able to have/do it too.

Here we go ...

I also dislike the phrase 'that said' because it means nothing. You have no reason nor standing to guess what I advocate when I am here to do that for myself. I advocate not using 'they do it too' as a substitute for ethics. Do you think it is a suitable and mature replacement for a moral system? 'They do it, thus it is right for me to do it' is enough for you? You would raise your children to live by such a creed?


And that said ... Governments are amoral institutions; it would be nice if we lived in a world where they were, but it ain't this world.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:43 PM

13. So you just kinda know it?

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:00 PM

5. reference?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:27 PM

10. Really. What is it about them and their "secrets"? Don't they realize we are a planetary good?

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:38 PM

12. We must insure that only MIC approved candidates can possibly be elected.

If we dig deep enough into any individual's electronic communications, we can always find something that we can smear them with, and help prevent them from being elected. Many democratic minded candidates could easily be prevented from running for office in this way, and more dissenters could be silenced. With the evidence we have gathered of clandestine sexual affairs, trysts, and tricks, we now have dirt on 80% of the politicians in DC - and this has given us unprecedented control of both Houses!

We could call this process "Weinerizing", after our successful first trials on the renegade liberal NY Democrat Rep. Weiner.

Weinerizing will be one more effective way we can cull the herd in order to help keep even more our world safer from democracy.

Europeans should be grateful. No more nasty little social democracies, no more leaders to the left of Maggie Thatcher.

The system works!


(BTW, Third Way Manny, could you call Eric and ask if he could get the agency to wipe those incriminating texts from Lola for me? If Barb ever got hold of them, she'd leave me and take all her money with her. And don't worry, I'll return the favor in a big way, heh-heh )

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Response to Zorra (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:08 PM

15. Well said, Zorra!

"We could call this process "Weinerizing", after our successful first trials on the renegade liberal NY Democrat Rep. Weiner."

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Response to Zorra (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:22 PM

19. I'm right on top of it, Zorra!

 

Eric owes me, big time, for posting this stuff.

TWM

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:05 PM

14. Manny, we have no choice other than to crush the evil Europeans!

Those unappreciative bastards!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:09 PM

16. I bet they are racist too

 

They complained so they must be racist

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:13 PM

17. The EU now knows the US knows how much they have been in bed with the Russians and the Chinese.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.™

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:14 PM

18. At least we know

That the US is still probably No. 1 in computing power. The "save all encrypted information" program points to the idea that if they CIA/NSA becomes interested in anyone that they can and will be able to break the encryption fairly easily despite the common techie's belief that it would take them decades to break current encryption. They don't have time to decrypt every message but can certainly break it for any particular messages they may be interested in.

Don't expect any leaps and bounds on home/individual computing power becoming available any time soon. The govt. needs to exponentially ahead of us little guys for our own protection.

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