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superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:50 PM Feb 2012

Report: Electronic Cigarette Explosion Leaves Man Severely Injured

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-exploding-electronic-cigarette-20120215,0,366930.story

A man in the Florida Panhandle community of Niceville lost all of his teeth, part of his tongue and suffered facial cuts when the electronic cigarette he was smoking exploded, WEAR-Ch. 3 television reported.

Photographer, Vietnam veteran and father of three Tom Holloway was being treated at a burn center, the station reported.


http://www.weartv.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wear_vid_20551.shtml

Holloway's cigarette had exploded.
The debris that flew around the room was so hot, it melted everything it touched.

Chief Butch Parker/North Bay Fire District "And what we believe was in the battery, and whenever the battery ignited, it was basically like him holding a bottle rocket in his mouth"

Wendy Jensen "It exploded in his face, and it knocked out all his teeth and part of his tongue and he had blood all over his face, and it set the study on fire"
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Report: Electronic Cigarette Explosion Leaves Man Severely Injured (Original Post) superpatriotman Feb 2012 OP
I bet you he tried to light it. LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #1
Where do I send the bill for a new keyboard? Liberal Veteran Feb 2012 #2
I was wondering how many teeth he started with. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #20
i bet he put something flammable like lighter fluid in it... ret5hd Feb 2012 #3
It is possible to refill the cartridges on an e-cig... spin Feb 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #4
We have a winner! superpatriotman Feb 2012 #6
I'm Going With The Lithium Part Of Your Theory ProfessorGAC Feb 2012 #8
Good idea! LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #14
Don't know what the toy chopper has to do with anything other than padding your Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #25
I don't recall a ban on RC helicopters from the TSA LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #26
The batteries aren't near the "mouth end". blogslut Feb 2012 #15
So, you wish to ban battery powered devices on the plane? TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #18
One specific type LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #27
But you are only supporting a ban for THIS application LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #29
No, I am pointing out that LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #30
It would be a more credible argument if motives were not already well-established. nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #33
Horrific Warpy Feb 2012 #5
How do you spell L-A-W-S-U-I-T? Jello Biafra Feb 2012 #7
Batteries fail. That's a given. The more energy in the battery, the worse the failure. saras Feb 2012 #9
An electric car doesn't have a single battery. TheWraith Feb 2012 #13
When you impale the whole assembly on a guard rail at 65MPH, does it matter? saras Feb 2012 #31
When you compressively smash 15 gallons of gasoline, does it matter? TheWraith Feb 2012 #32
This is an inherent risk of all rechargeable battery systems jberryhill Feb 2012 #10
Oh well, there goes that idea. n/t Bonhomme Richard Feb 2012 #11
An alternative theory might involve the vaporizer chamber. sofa king Feb 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #19
I've talked to a few people using them raouldukelives Feb 2012 #34

ret5hd

(20,517 posts)
3. i bet he put something flammable like lighter fluid in it...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:59 PM
Feb 2012

either accidentally or on purpose.

I take that back, i don't bet. but it was my initial reaction.

spin

(17,493 posts)
24. It is possible to refill the cartridges on an e-cig...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:10 PM
Feb 2012

Some people experiment with different favors and it might be possible to mix an explosive combination.

Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

ProfessorGAC

(65,161 posts)
8. I'm Going With The Lithium Part Of Your Theory
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:10 PM
Feb 2012

The rest of it, i'm not as comfortable with, but alkali metals and moisture do not play well together.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
12. Good idea!
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:16 PM
Feb 2012

We should also ban laptops, cellphones, mp3 players, those annoying little handheld poker games that go beep, and everything else with a battery on airplanes. Just in case.

Seriously, if something like that is really going to bother you, you should probably not be flying at all. Or using a laptop, for that matter.

Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #12)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. Don't know what the toy chopper has to do with anything other than padding your
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 07:28 PM
Feb 2012

list. I use e-cigs without recharge and some with. So if the recharge is the issue, they go one off.

Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #21)

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
22. I don't recall a ban on RC helicopters from the TSA
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 07:39 PM
Feb 2012

Somehow I don't think this is about exploding batteries.

Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #22)

blogslut

(38,015 posts)
15. The batteries aren't near the "mouth end".
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:56 PM
Feb 2012

The battery is located on the lower portion of the device - always.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
16. So, you wish to ban battery powered devices on the plane?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:59 PM
Feb 2012

How miserable does the experience have to be?

Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #16)

Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #23)

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
28. But you are only supporting a ban for THIS application
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:34 PM
Feb 2012

which, coincidentally, happens to deliver nicotine vapor.

Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #28)

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
30. No, I am pointing out that
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:06 PM
Feb 2012

you are supporting ONLY a ban on ecigs, NOT a wide-scale ban on lithium batteries, based on one incident where we don't actually know what went wrong. This would lead anyone to think that your issue was with the ecigs, not the batteries, especially since there have been a lot more laptop batteries catching fire than ecigs.

http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LZCOK66JTSED01-5O2FN6BF2M4B05S1TBR2V53T5Q

Without new safety standards, lithium batteries that can spontaneously combust were projected to destroy one U.S.- registered cargo jet every other year, according to a study commissioned by U.S. and Canadian aviation regulators. Shipments of lithium batteries that include those used in mobile phones, tablets and laptop computers have been suspected of contributing to two U.S. cargo-jet accidents since 2006.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09035.html

Incidents/Injuries: There have been 19 reports of the batteries overheating, including 17 reports of flames/fire (10 resulting in minor property damage). Two consumers experienced minor burns.

If you really are worried about things that might explode in-flight, you might be better off just driving or taking the bus. (they still let butane lighters on, too).

Warpy

(111,336 posts)
5. Horrific
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:00 PM
Feb 2012

It's going to be interesting to find out what brand it is and how long he had used that particular unit. The e-cigs might be something with a limited lifespan that need to be replaced periodically, either yearly or every few months.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
9. Batteries fail. That's a given. The more energy in the battery, the worse the failure.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:17 PM
Feb 2012

Old batteries used to get hot and leak corrosive chemicals that ate up the insides of whatever they were in. Even if you shorted them with a fat copper wire, they simply didn't have the energy density to explode.

Cell phone batteries, in the rare event that they fail, have killed people.

Laptop batteries can be REALLY spectacular - miniature volcanoes of molten stuff spouting right up through the keyboard.

The first electric car battery that gets a steel rod, or a guardrail, poked right through it in a rainstorm is going to be interesting.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
13. An electric car doesn't have a single battery.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:26 PM
Feb 2012

It has thousands of batteries wired together, each individual one only the size of a laptop cell.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
31. When you impale the whole assembly on a guard rail at 65MPH, does it matter?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:12 AM
Feb 2012

I imagine it only takes a certain small number of cells going off to set off a chain reaction, and ignite nearby cells just from the heat.

See, the best car explosion never happens. The best car explosion would be if a single car turned over in a tunnel with a full tank of gas, and the gas didn't ignite until the entire tank formed a nice gas-air mixture. That way pretty much all the energy in the gas is released in an extremely short time, but usually the gas just burns for a long time. A whole car full of batteries will deliver a roughly (order-of-magnitude) similar amount of energy, probably in just a few seconds once started.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
32. When you compressively smash 15 gallons of gasoline, does it matter?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:22 AM
Feb 2012

You're grossly exaggerating the danger from lithium ion batteries. They are, as a rule, fairly stable and not easy to damage. Yes, they contain a lot of energy. So does gas. That's the nature of an energy storage system. What they are NOT, however, is a giant bomb waiting to go off, nor are they a chain of firecrackers as you seem to envision.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
17. An alternative theory might involve the vaporizer chamber.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 07:02 PM
Feb 2012

I wonder if a runaway heating element could break the propylene glycol into its component alcohols, which under pressure might also explode like a bottle rocket, helped along perhaps by repetitive chomping down on the vent.

Response to sofa king (Reply #17)

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
34. I've talked to a few people using them
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:39 AM
Feb 2012

who sort of customize them. You can add on heating elements that burn hotter than normal to provide more "smoke". Larger batteries and such. Maybe he kind of Tim Allen'd it. Horsepower! Rarrrrr! Rarrrr!

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