I'm mighty relieved to know that Snowden is full of shit

[MannyGoldstein]

and knows zip.

Given our government's extraordinary global bridge-burning actions to stop him:

Pres Morales: "NO You can NOT inspect my aircraft!" Emergency UNASUR meeting. Hague Tribunal?

I tremble to think what they'd do if he did actually know something!

[dkf]

1. I'm scared for him.

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. If they hurt, kill, or disappear him, it will confirm his warnings and turn even more

against the surveillance state. Same as if they lock him up for three years in solitary without a trial, as they did to PFC Manning.

[sibelian]

8. I've a nasty feeling it might be past that stage.

[Fire Walk With Me]

11. Yeah... :(

[bahrbearian]

3. So I've been told.

[flamingdem]

4. Um, can we at least wait until tomorrow to see what really happened?

No one knows yet. Not even Evo Morales, but he's willing to state it's about an attempt to murder him or tarnish his image.

Pretty over the top stuff when there's very little information about the source of the rumor or reason that this happened.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Excuse me...but so far we have had acts

That are mighty serious...wars have started for far less.

Pretzel yourself out of that.

[flamingdem]

9. We'll know more tomorrow

If it is explainable then it will look pretty silly that everyone assumed the worst

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. So the idiot South American made this up

Got it.

I forgot

[flamingdem]

17. They don't know who stated what and why exactly it happened

That is in the articles, check it out.

[Downwinder]

25. The problem is not who started the rumor, it is who credited it.

[frylock]

36. +1

[frylock]

35. i don't think that you fully grasp the gravity of the situation here..

your attempt to downplay this event is disingenuous, at best.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Well...my dear frank Zappa spoke of removing the scenery

I think we are watching a nice wall...the question is concrete or brick?

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. Oh, no. Now Evo Morales is angry at the Norteamericanos

Would that this whole affair had never happened.

[HipChick]

12. And Assange is prob laughing his arse off..

[flamingdem]

13. It's pretty funny, yesterday Pres. Correa was all buddy, buddy with Joe Biden

and said that Snowden was a spy he didn't particularly care to meet.

So it looked like Latin America was okay with the USA, even Maduro was reported to have second thoughts about any asylum offers.

But Europe was on our azz about the leaks and this and that. Now we see they are maybe a little too attentive of any US requests.

I'm starting to think this has been a game played by Putin to see how strong the alliances are, to have some fun.

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. Nobody cares that much

It's a conspiracy by internet message boards so that they'll have something to yammer about.

[flamingdem]

21. True, this is but a blip

It's one fantastic story though.

If it wasn't for Treyvon it would be the top story, they need more footage though, a few more interviews

[Marr]

28. You're aware that Ecuador and Bolivia are two different places, right?

Latin America isn't a monolith. And that tinfoil looks ridiculous.

[flamingdem]

31. I've been there. No one knows exactly what happened and why nt

[Marr]

32. Yeah, so have I. And hey, if no one knows exactly what happened, why are you so

damned sure this is 'just a blip'?

[flamingdem]

33. Why are you so aggressive, I would never treat a person that way on the internet

I find that bizarre

[Marr]

37. Pushing lies is hardly respectful or respectable behavior.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3094672

I mean, several poor suckers there hopped in to support you, not realizing you were just feeding them bullshit they wanted to hear.

[bvar22]

42. Exactly!

Nailed It.

On Edit:
But you got to have some compassion.
They've been up night & day for over a week,
hovering over their keyboards,
frantically and desperately attacking any thread that could conceivably be seen as anti-government spying, or critical of the Obama Administration.
So lapses in judgement and thinking skills should be expected at this point.

I actually saw one reduced to "I know you are but what am I?" a few days ago.
Desperation sucks, especially when you got NOTHING left.
Sad really,
but it is like a Circus Freak Show.
I KNOW I shouldn't watch,
but I HAVE to see it.

[morningfog]

14. Ya'll are sounding more like Republicans by the day.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Zat right?

[morningfog]

18. Might as well embrace it.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Seriously, though, it's not like Morales needed this incident to change his position, right

Be honest.

[muriel_volestrangler]

39. It is right, and you're pulling DU into the Republican gutter

in which you're having so much fun splashing.

[annabanana]

41. Weird,right? ... n/t

[sibelian]

15. PLONK.

[backscatter712]

23. It's spreading!

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. Fan club!

[PufPuf23]

27. After 500 years of European genocide in the western hemisphere,

I recommend you re-think the tone and substance of your post.

Sad to see the official USA reaction to an irrelevant peon (Snowden).

[alcibiades_mystery]

29. You're mistaken

Snowden is the mostest importantest person in the whole wide world. Obviously.

I'll consider my post in light of your comments on the 500 year history. Thanks, yo!

[MannyGoldstein]

38. I know, really? What's with these banana republics?

If Obama's plane had to do the same, he'd just laugh it off.



Then he'd drone the fuckers back to whatever heathen animistic deity they pray to.

[PufPuf23]

22. I was "moved" to post in the "Pres Morales: "NO You can NOT inspect my aircraft!" Emergency...""

thread.

I agree with your OP.

Thanks for your time spent at DU.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

26. To them, Morales is the New Chavez.

[DeSwiss]

30. Hey Manny, the good news is.....

...that George W. Bush traveled to Africa under the Obama (we don't look back to the past) Administration's protection and so therefore won't have to worry about having his plane boarded, or diverted, nor denied access through anyone's airspace because...... well, because we're the fucking USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

- We don't follow the rules, we just make 'em for everybody else......

K&R

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. Tyrants have strong thumbs.....weak fingers.

[Catherina]

40. Desperation bordering on madness right now

I think what scares the pants off of them is that there's not only more, but worse, to come and it's going to keep coming regardless of what happens to Snowden, or even Greenwald.

"That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide."

"I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return."

Senator Frank Church on the NSA specifically

[center]

Asked what Edward Snowden should expect to happen to him, William Binney, answered, "first tortured, then maybe even rendered and tortured and then incarcerated and then tried and incarcerated or even executed." Interesting that this is what a whistleblower, former Senior level Director at NSA, thinks the U.S. government will do to a citizen.

[jsr]

43. Yes, the United States government has charged him with stealing shit

so he's full of it.