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Here's what the Snowden videos did
1) They reinforced Snowden as the story, providing insights into his background, thinking and world view.
Eight key quotes from the new Snowden video
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/08/eight_key_quotes_from_the_new_snowden_video/singleton/
Here are examples.
“I joined the intelligence community when I was very young…and I believed in the nobility of our intentions to free oppressed people overseas.” However as he was exposed to more information he came to believe: “We were actually involved in misleading the public and in misleading all the publics, not just the American public, in order to create a certain mindset in the global consciousness. And I was actually a victim of that.”
“America is a fundamentally good country… But the structures of powers that exist are working to their own ends to extend their capabilities at the expense of the public.”
“I don’t want to live in a world where everything that I say, everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity or love or friendship is recorded.”
2) They revived the already debunked claims. Reports are focusing on "direct access" as a key piece of information, again.
Snowden claims Web companies gave NSA 'direct access' to systems in new video clip
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/309667-snowden-claims-web-companies-gave-nsa-direct-access-to-the-back-ends-of-systems-in-new-video-clip
Remember this interview took place before the claims were debunked. He has yet to back up that claim.
Der Spiegel: Do private companies help the NSA? Snowden: Yes. But it's hard to prove that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023195588
He also hasn't produced any proof of wrongdoing. In fact, his leak shows exactly the opposite.
Documents Detail N.S.A. Surveillance Rules
By SCOTT SHANE
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On Thursday, in the latest release of documents supplied by Edward J. Snowden, the former N.S.A. contractor now believed to be hiding in Hong Kong, The Guardian published two documents setting out the detailed rules governing the agency’s intercepts...They show, for example, that N.S.A. officers who intercept an American online or on the phone — say, while monitoring the phone or e-mail of a foreign diplomat or a suspected terrorist — can preserve the recording or transcript if they believe the contents include “foreign intelligence information” or evidence of a possible crime. They can likewise preserve the intercept if it contains information on a “threat of serious harm to life or property” or sheds light on technical issues like encryption or vulnerability to cyberattacks.
And while N.S.A. analysts usually have to delete Americans’ names from the reports they write, there are numerous exceptions, including cases where there is evidence that the American in the intercept is working for a terrorist group, foreign country or foreign corporation.
The documents, classified “Secret,” describe the procedures for eavesdropping under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act, including an N.S.A. program called Prism that mines Internet communications using services including Gmail and Facebook. They are likely to add fuel for both sides of the debate over the proper limits of the government’s surveillance programs.
They offer a glimpse of a rule-bound intelligence bureaucracy that is highly sensitive to the distinction between foreigners and “U.S. persons,” which technically include not only American citizens and legal residents but American companies and nonprofit organizations as well. The two sets of rules, each nine pages long, belie the image of a rogue intelligence agency recklessly violating Americans’ privacy.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/politics/documents-detail-nsa-surveillance-rules.html
By SCOTT SHANE
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On Thursday, in the latest release of documents supplied by Edward J. Snowden, the former N.S.A. contractor now believed to be hiding in Hong Kong, The Guardian published two documents setting out the detailed rules governing the agency’s intercepts...They show, for example, that N.S.A. officers who intercept an American online or on the phone — say, while monitoring the phone or e-mail of a foreign diplomat or a suspected terrorist — can preserve the recording or transcript if they believe the contents include “foreign intelligence information” or evidence of a possible crime. They can likewise preserve the intercept if it contains information on a “threat of serious harm to life or property” or sheds light on technical issues like encryption or vulnerability to cyberattacks.
And while N.S.A. analysts usually have to delete Americans’ names from the reports they write, there are numerous exceptions, including cases where there is evidence that the American in the intercept is working for a terrorist group, foreign country or foreign corporation.
The documents, classified “Secret,” describe the procedures for eavesdropping under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act, including an N.S.A. program called Prism that mines Internet communications using services including Gmail and Facebook. They are likely to add fuel for both sides of the debate over the proper limits of the government’s surveillance programs.
They offer a glimpse of a rule-bound intelligence bureaucracy that is highly sensitive to the distinction between foreigners and “U.S. persons,” which technically include not only American citizens and legal residents but American companies and nonprofit organizations as well. The two sets of rules, each nine pages long, belie the image of a rogue intelligence agency recklessly violating Americans’ privacy.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/politics/documents-detail-nsa-surveillance-rules.html
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Today, in the latest release of classified NSA documents from Glenn Greenwald, we finally got a look at these minimization procedures. Here's the nickel summary:
I have a feeling it must have killed Glenn to write that paragraph. But on paper, anyway, the minimization procedures really are pretty strict. If NSA discovers that it's mistakenly collected domestic content, it's required to cease the surveillance immediately and destroy the information it's already collected. However, there are exceptions. They can:
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Today, in the latest release of classified NSA documents from Glenn Greenwald, we finally got a look at these minimization procedures. Here's the nickel summary:
The top secret documents published today detail the circumstances in which data collected on US persons under the foreign intelligence authority must be destroyed, extensive steps analysts must take to try to check targets are outside the US, and reveals how US call records are used to help remove US citizens and residents from data collection.
I have a feeling it must have killed Glenn to write that paragraph. But on paper, anyway, the minimization procedures really are pretty strict. If NSA discovers that it's mistakenly collected domestic content, it's required to cease the surveillance immediately and destroy the information it's already collected. However, there are exceptions. They can:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023060180
WaPo: New documents reveal parameters of NSA’s secret surveillance programs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023058091
I have gone through the Snowden slides about as well as anyone could...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023187725
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would be to take his technology away:
“I don’t want to live in a world where everything that I say, everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity or love or friendship is recorded.”
It's not about the man, it's about the message.
And it's not about the evidence, it's about believing the message, with your whole heart and soul, and never asking for 'the evidence' - because there isn't any.
For the Snow-jobbed, evidence of his claims is irrelevant. Along with the truth.
it happened again: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023169023#post152
"I am trying to understand the end game of these posts. Are you going to convince us of what?"
...post my opinons and other information just like every other poster here.
Hope that clears it up for you.