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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho watched Gasland II on HBO tonight? Anybody?
Here's a pretty good summary:
We Can't All Just Move
And so Gasland II begins much like 2010s Gasland, with connections defined by similar experiences with odious oil and gas industry representatives. He begins this film with the 2010 BP oil spill, a means to set up both the industrys need to seek out alternative fuel sources and its inclination to deceive. The film emphasizes the cover-up part of the BP spill, as Fox films images not captured by journalists whose access as restricted at the time (This is what it really looked like, he narrates mournfully, over shots of waters darkened by oil).
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As in the first film, these water-on-fire shots here help to express citizens frustrations. As Fox travels from Dimock, Pennsylvania and Dish, Texas to Baldwin Hills, California, each speaker has his or her own footage of contaminated tap water or methane flames shooting up into the sky above a processing facility. The common solutions for this dilemma are two: leave people to endure or not (Texas Representative Lon Burnham says, Weve got a lot of upper middle class white people with college degrees getting ticked off because theyre being treated the way third world people have always been treated by corporate America), or move them.
Driven to desperationtheir water is unusable, their properties are unsellable, their children are sicker by the daymany victims take the only option they can, which is to sign deals with the gas-drilling companies whereby the must move off their land, leave behind their homes, and never speak of whats happened, owing to non-disclosure clauses. Again, Fox underscores the significance of who speaks, who tells the story. For even if the gas-drilling representatives of their lobbyists remain off screen, their money speaks loudly. Kucinich cites the effects of Citizens United specifically, as this Supreme Court decision allows such particular storytellers to remain undisclosed.
Fox goes one more step in this story of how stories are stifled. He films his own effort to record a public hearing in 2012, where the House Subcommittee on Energy and Environment was to consider the EPAs report on the links between fracking and water contamination in Pavilion, Wyoming (it was, he notes, the first time EPA verified that fracking chemicals were in the water because of fracking, and its eventual disavowal by the Obama Administration precedes Lisa Jacksons February 2013 resignation as EPA administrator). The film includes footage of Fox being handcuffed and led outside the hearing roomdespite his legal right to be in the room with his cameraand as he appears in canted frame, the exterior lighting and architecture creating a weirdly science-fictiony effect, he narrates his own story, his sense of freedom in the arrest and subsequent fingerprinting at the police station, his inability to film, to act, to speak, after three years of working on the film. At this moment, he says, his sense of freedom is at once ironic and horrific: I didnt have to do anything, he says, his hands behind his back.
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/173326-gasland-ii-fracking-revisited/
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And I don't have HBO...
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)We are willing to sell out our democracy and burn up our planet this way.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)This kind of stuff should be on network TV. I used to see documentaries on TV when I was a kid in 50's and 60's. Now replaced with Dancing with the Stars and American Idol. Crying shame.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Waiting for the whistleblowers now, because we don't have a safe air or water department anymore.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)and I saw this post too late, it's half over. I have it set to record on Friday morning, then I'll watch the entire thing.
dsc
(52,162 posts)if so, you should have it come up in about 6 minutes on hbo west.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)And then read the counter-rebuttal. It's like absurdist theatre, if written by petrochemical companies.
mnhtnbb
(31,390 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)In 30 years 50% of all wells will have sustained casing pressure... in Pennsylvania that will 30,000+ leaking wells.
This data is from the Gas industry, they have known this all along.
With Fracking, some people win big... and some people lose big... everybody loses the climate change lottery.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Right now I can't.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)drokhole
(1,230 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I really had no idea of the magnitude of this assault.
garybeck
(9,942 posts)don't attack me for posting this. I am against fracking. However according to this article one of the scenes in this movie is a hoax, in which someone makes it look like they are lighting water on fire, but they really had the hose hooked up to a gas line. I have not seen the film. I tried to find a response from the director to this question but haven't found anything yet.
Gasland Director Presents Anti-Fracking Hoax as Evidence in New Film
freebeacon.com
Court found fire-spouting hose to be a hoax created for publicity
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Foxs new film, Gasland Part II, features a powerful scene showing a Texas landowner lighting the contents of a garden hose on fire. The incident is presented as evidence of water contamination from a nearby hydraulic fracturing operation.
According to a Texas court, the scene was actually a hoax devised by a Texas environmental activist engaged in a prolonged battle with a local gas company to falsely inflate the supposed dangers of the oil and gas extraction technique, also known as fracking.
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http://freebeacon.com/gasland-director-presents-anti-fracking-hoax-as-evidence-in-new-film/
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... You do know that this is a publication by one of those 501c(4) winger think tanks out of Texas, right? You might try to find some back up for this article, as this one looks entirely too bogus. I thought it seemed a little too slanted toward the fracking industry... read it twice just to be sure I wasn't jumping to conclusions. Then I started clicking around on the links. This really stinks to high heaven. Let's try to find a couple more sources?
garybeck
(9,942 posts)and it appears real to me. are you saying the court document is a complete fabrication? check it out here:
http://www.barnettshalenews.com/documents/2012/legal/Court%20Order%20Denial%20of%20Lipsky%20Motion%20to%20Dismiss%20Range%20Counterclaim%202-16-2012.pdf
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)Josh Fox is standing behind that scene, evidently.
I've not yet seen Gasland II---no access to HBO
garybeck
(9,942 posts)are we supposed to think the judges are corrupt, or the ruling is a fabrication, or ...?
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Do you remember the winger Judges in New Orleans after the BP oil catastrophe?
I've got a bridge to sell you. Perfectly good bridge, not much for the wear. I did see Gasland II early this AM on HBO. Will watch it again and try to find more about this Judge's decision and more articles. Need more sources and followup. Until then, I call this report bogus. I do not mean this as a personal affront to you. We just need to be careful & check other sources.
garybeck
(9,942 posts)I always try to be objective and not assume one thing or another just based on the circumstances or who is doing what. if the scene is a hoax I'd like to know it. If it's not a hoax, I would be refuting references to the judge's ruling on places like facebook (which is where I saw the reference in the first place, and I often refute bogus claims there but I need facts to back me up).
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)They mention it in the film saying that the gas company is suing them for 12 million dollars.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Watching it now, thought I'd Google back in time a year to see what DU was buying about this movie.
Duppers
(28,123 posts)Worst part is how Obama has handled this immense disaster. GL 2 made the point that both he and Hillary Clinton are supporting global efforts to pull petrol products from shale!!! How can Democrats pretend to care about GCC and support such policies???
Change? What change?
I wanted to provide a link but my short search pulled up so much disinformation from the keyboards of reichwing think tanks. They're out in force on this one, even here and on Daily Kos.
yesphan
(1,588 posts)totally in bed with the industry as well.
Duppers
(28,123 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2013, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)
Rendell is a major sellout. Major. Yet, Chris Matthews is forever kissing his ass.
Edited to correct my phone's autocorrect.
yesphan
(1,588 posts)"fix the debt" ? This guy is no liberal. Why is he on so many shows ?
mnhtnbb
(31,390 posts)due to death in the family and helping surviving spouse--my uncle--cope
with the loss. I had seen-from the airplane-- these funny little pads with long driveways to them
all over the middle of the country and couldn't figure out what they were!
Drilling sites! It's really unbelievable how many of them have popped up
in the last 5 or so years.
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)I am considered a insurgent for being against poisoning of water and air and they are using phys ops against americans.
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)With so much methane being released into the atmosphere from the wells and tens of thousands of them going up every year how much will this accelerate climate change.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)It's on HBO On Demand if anyone missed recording it.