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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:57 PM Jul 2013

Secret FISA Court Tosses Privacy Overboard

In the law, they call it a “fishing expedition” — investigators digging through as many private records as they want just to see if something incriminating turns up.

Go into almost any big courthouse on almost any given day, and lawyers will be arguing whether a request for information amounts to nothing but a fishing expedition. If people are to have any privacy, the argument goes, no one should be able to poke through their personal affairs without a good reason.

But that’s not an argument that holds much sway over at the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. As Monday’s Wall Street Journal detailed, virtually no fishing expedition is too broad for FISA.

The usual rule governing searches is that they must be relevant to the case at hand. So how can FISA justify allowing the National Security Agency to sweep up phone records of millions of people who are under no suspicion at all? By redefining the word “relevant” to the point where it pretty much means “everything.” Phone numbers that people dialed, where they were calling from and the length of the conversations are all considered fair game under FISA’s interpretation of the Patriot Act. For FISA, the word “relevant” has become irrelevant.

The ability to use technology to keep tabs on people has been shooting ahead so fast it’s hard to keep track of the privacy implications. A recent Washington Post article, for example, reported that police have loaded more than 120 million driver’s license photos into searchable databases. Commercial services track what we look at on the Web, where we go and what we buy.

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http://www.suntimes.com/opinions/21210335-474/secret-fisa-court-tosses-privacy-overboard.html

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midnight

(26,624 posts)
1. My driver's license photo doesn't even look like me... I wish they would use a better photo for
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jul 2013

their data base...

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. we were universally against it when Bush did it.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:03 AM
Jul 2013

But some of us sold out their principles when a supposed democrat does it.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
13. Yep. Every republican policy or appointment adds another n dimension.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jul 2013

If he turns any more corporatist he'll be an infinite-dimension chess master.
:rolleyes:

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
9. For lack of a better term, I would call it "Abused wife syndrome"
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jul 2013

They don't believe they deserve better, Joe McCarthy, Jay Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon etc. etc. weren't enough, they want more, only this time an authoritarian on steroids.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
7. a/k/a "dragnet" searches. Traditionally not acceptable.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jul 2013

On Thursday, Representative Jim Sensenbrenner, Republican of Wisconsin, who introduced the Patriot Act in 2001, said that the National Security Agency overstepped its bounds by obtaining a secret order to collect phone log records from millions of Americans.

“As the author of the Patriot Act, I am extremely troubled by the F.B.I.’s interpretation of this legislation,” he said in a statement. “While I believe the Patriot Act appropriately balanced national security concerns and civil rights, I have always worried about potential abuses.” He added: “Seizing phone records of millions of innocent people is excessive and un-American.”


DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
12. The technology is moving too fast to trust the old framework.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

This isn't wire intercepts and steaming open letters. Even if it didn't appear the law was being interpreted over broadly, why would anyone think a scheme from the Carter Administration would be adequate oversight in the first place.
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