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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:46 AM Jul 2013

Regarding Dzhohkar Tsarnaev on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine

Last edited Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:49 AM - Edit history (1)

If you haven't heard already, Dzhohkar Tsarnaev is on the cover of the newest Rolling Stone looking like Jim Morrison's little brother after a fight with a Flowbee. Apparently, lots and lots and lots of people are all WHAAARGARBLE over this, because the cover of Stone is for celebrities and rock stars and the like.

For the record, and in my own humble opinion:

1. I don't care. Got bigger things to worry about;

2. If Tsarnaev's face looked like the back of an old man's balls and they put him on the cover, no one would be complaining;

3. The fact that Matt Taibbi writes for Stone means newsmakers (like Manson once upon a time, and G.W. Bush in 2009) are allowed on the cover; and,

4. I DON'T CARE. Got bigger things to worry about.

Definitely buying a copy, though. It'll fit perfectly over my dartboard.

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Regarding Dzhohkar Tsarnaev on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jul 2013 OP
I'll buy a copy if there is an article that goes with the cover. GoneFishin Jul 2013 #1
There is. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #7
he's in good company... corkhead Jul 2013 #2
And this... Tanuki Jul 2013 #3
I wasn't horrified at the cover when I first saw it... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #4
Thank you. One person, at least, who sees that there's more to this than meets the eye... truth2power Jul 2013 #22
a more appropriate picture exlrrp Jul 2013 #5
+10 n/t whathehell Jul 2013 #6
your picture is not taken at the bomb site. temmer Jul 2013 #24
The most important story is about the loss of the arctic ice Botany Jul 2013 #8
...and Stone did a huge story on that a year ago. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #9
Can it get printed on urinal screens? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #10
In Britain, they'd be charged with prejudicing the trial muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #11
I've noticed the UK news sites all close their comments in articles about cases Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #25
The photo they chose makes perfect sense onenote Jul 2013 #12
I agree Marrah_G Jul 2013 #13
What's a Flowbee? Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #14
Flowbee website link justiceischeap Jul 2013 #15
Holy shit! I didn't know those existed! nt Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #16
Who cares? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #17
So the point of this OP is that YOU don't care about the cover. Dawgs Jul 2013 #18
Ermahgerd, a thread that makes a personal point!!! WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #20
Besides, that's just what he looks like. Were they supposed to make him DevonRex Jul 2013 #19
For anyone who isn't afraid to do so, I encourage them to truth2power Jul 2013 #21
+++best post in this thread temmer Jul 2013 #23
+++ ^^^ GoneFishin Jul 2013 #28
Haven't there been hundreds of articles about this guy that included his photo? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #26
You reckon he'll buy five copies for his mother? nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #27

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
1. I'll buy a copy if there is an article that goes with the cover.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:51 AM
Jul 2013

In view of the fact that the guy in Florida was reportedly shot seven times, once in the head, I will follow this story closely.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
3. And this...
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:53 AM
Jul 2013

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hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
4. I wasn't horrified at the cover when I first saw it...
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:54 AM
Jul 2013

but I can fully understand why it would offend, since, to tell the truth, my very first response was "who was that good looking young man on the cover"?.... before realizing.

I do read Taibbi's writings, though and will undoubtedly read this. This kid does seem like a real enigma and like Rachel Maddow last night, I'm convinced there is part of the story we are NOT getting (vis-a-vis the earlier triple murder in Waltham and the Tsarnaev's role as well as the FBI-killed suspect (?) in Florida).


My sympathies, though to Bostonians, for whom this has to be very raw.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
22. Thank you. One person, at least, who sees that there's more to this than meets the eye...
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jul 2013

See my post, below.

exlrrp

(623 posts)
5. a more appropriate picture
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:57 AM
Jul 2013

They should have used the picture with him and his brother standing behind the kid they killed with those halfass smiles on their faces.
The kid in the green jacket
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temmer

(358 posts)
24. your picture is not taken at the bomb site.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:30 PM
Jul 2013

Here's the photo with Martin and Dzhokhar. It's FAKED.



The photo if of unknown origin and appeared in some Yello Press newspapers (Daily Mail etc.)

It purports to show the Richard family as Marathon spectators, with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the background, just leaving the scene, and his bag (i.e. bomb) at the metal barrier. It has quickly been accepted by many as evidence that DT's bomb killed Martin and injured the rest of the family. But it's obviously not authentic.

The head of DT has obviously been copied from the photo where he turns into Fairfield Street after the blasts.

We know from the initial charge that DT left his bag a few seconds after the first blast, so the photo must have been shot only seconds before the second blast. However, as we know also from the charge that "Virtually every head turns east (towards the finish line) and stares in that direction, in apparent bewilderedness and alarm".

But neither the Richards nor anyone else stares east "in bewilderedness and alarm". Noone is looking towards the first bomb site. The people are cheering the runners. It is apparent that the first explosion not has occured yet. The photo must have been shot earlier, with DT and the Richard Family pasted in later. A fake.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
11. In Britain, they'd be charged with prejudicing the trial
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jul 2013

You just can't title the picture of someone pleading not guilty 'the bomber'. Especially on a cover - people don't even have to open the magazine to see it.

Examples: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13905765

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
25. I've noticed the UK news sites all close their comments in articles about cases
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jul 2013

that have not yet gone to trial.

They seem very strict about this stuff there.

onenote

(42,759 posts)
12. The photo they chose makes perfect sense
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jul 2013

The thesis of the story, as stated on the magazine cover, is as follows: "The Bomber: How a Popular Promising Student Was Failed By His Family, Fell Into Radical Islam, and Became a Monster."

In other words the story doesn't depict this guy as an innocent, but as a monster. But a monster who didn't start out that way. Who was the guy that a lot of his friends could not imagine being the bomber. So putting a picture of him looking innocent on the cover makes sense since the whole point of the story is how did this innocent looking guy turn into a monster that intentionally sought to maim and kill as many people as possible.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
18. So the point of this OP is that YOU don't care about the cover.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jul 2013

Thanks for wasting my time.

Sad to see others are so interested that they actually recced your self-promoting brain fart.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
19. Besides, that's just what he looks like. Were they supposed to make him
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:48 PM
Jul 2013

look different? I think it's powerful because he looks young and sweet and a little bit like a rock star. That's kind of the point.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
21. For anyone who isn't afraid to do so, I encourage them to
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jul 2013

go over to http://commondreams.org and take a look at the article by Abby Zimet (left side of the page), also regarding the Rolling Stone cover.

Then scroll down and read the comments - all of them.

For a group of people who claim to believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty, I wonder why so many on DU believe this is an open and shut case. There are a multitude of anomalies surrounding the Boston Bombing, and, yes, questions are being raised. But not here on DU. Why is that? Oh, wait, I guess it's because we're so....mainstream.

What about the so-called friend of Tamerlan who was killed by the FBI several days after the bombing. I heard he attacked an agent with a knife, or a table, or a metal pole or a broomstick. whatever.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/fbi-tight-lipped-todashev-but-not-past-shootings/61DuyVBjEIqm37JcAeT5bL/story.html

FBI tight-lipped on Todashev killing
By Maria Sacchetti
| Globe Staff

June 06, 2013

Nothing to see, here. Move along. But while you're at it, read "The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI's Manufactured War on Terrorism - Trevor Aaronson






Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. Haven't there been hundreds of articles about this guy that included his photo?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jul 2013

I don't see the problem here either.

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