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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:52 AM Feb 2012

The Forgetting Pill Erases Painful Memories Forever


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Mitchell couldn’t get the dead woman out of his mind; the tableau was stuck before his eyes. He tried to tough it out, but after months of suffering, he couldn’t take it anymore. He finally told his brother, a fellow firefighter, about it.

Miraculously, that worked. No more trauma; Mitchell felt free. This dramatic recovery, along with the experiences of fellow first responders, led Mitchell to do some research into recovery from trauma. He eventually concluded that he had stumbled upon a powerful treatment. In 1983, nearly a decade after the car accident, Mitchell wrote an influential paper in the Journal of Emergency Medical Services that transformed his experience into a seven-step practice, which he called critical incident stress debriefing, or CISD. The central idea: People who survive a painful event should express their feelings soon after so the memory isn’t “sealed over” and repressed, which could lead to post-traumatic stress disorder.
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The problem is, CISD rarely helps—and recent studies show it often makes things worse. In one, burn victims were randomly assigned to receive either CISD or no treatment at all. A year later, those who went through a debriefing were more anxious and depressed and nearly three times as likely to suffer from PTSD. Another trial showed CISD was ineffective at preventing post-traumatic stress in victims of violent crime, and a US Army study of 952 Kosovo peacekeepers found that debriefing did not hasten recovery and led to more alcohol abuse. Psychologists have begun to recommend that the practice be discontinued for disaster survivors. (Mitchell now says that he doesn’t think CISD necessarily helps post-traumatic stress at all, but his early papers on the subject seem clear on the link.)
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This new model of memory isn’t just a theory—neuroscientists actually have a molecular explanation of how and why memories change. In fact, their definition of memory has broadened to encompass not only the cliché cinematic scenes from childhood but also the persisting mental loops of illnesses like PTSD and addiction—and even pain disorders like neuropathy. Unlike most brain research, the field of memory has actually developed simpler explanations. Whenever the brain wants to retain something, it relies on just a handful of chemicals. Even more startling, an equally small family of compounds could turn out to be a universal eraser of history, a pill that we could take whenever we wanted to forget anything.

And researchers have found one of these compounds.

In the very near future, the act of remembering will become a choice.


Much more: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2012/02/ff_forgettingpill/all/1

Would you take ths pill?



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The Forgetting Pill Erases Painful Memories Forever (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Feb 2012 OP
How soon will it be before "the forgetting pill" shows up in our drinking water? no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #1
Sunshine. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #2
There are well-researched non-drug interventions that remove the trauma from the memory Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #3
This reminds me of the SCTV sketch "Milk Of Amnesia" Loudmxr Feb 2012 #4
I always thought she was gorgeous.... WCGreen Feb 2012 #17
I thought it was LSD. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #5
Will it erase the Bush administration? Tennessee Gal Feb 2012 #6
Well, Republicans seem to have no problem forgetting it. nt Greg K Feb 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Greg K Feb 2012 #12
I'm sure it has "military applications" azurnoir Feb 2012 #7
In war one can kill, maim and traumatize without any bad personal lingering effects lunatica Feb 2012 #9
Santayana would be leery! nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2012 #8
The take-away should be that people should cope with trauma immediately instead of Edweird Feb 2012 #10
"Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" Greg K Feb 2012 #13
Facinating Article Live and Learn Feb 2012 #14
I've often thought of this pipi_k Feb 2012 #15
Not according to the article. Live and Learn Feb 2012 #16

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
1. How soon will it be before "the forgetting pill" shows up in our drinking water?
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:55 AM
Feb 2012

And folks were worried about fluoride . . . .

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. There are well-researched non-drug interventions that remove the trauma from the memory
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:02 AM
Feb 2012

without removing the memory.

Besides which, it's often not the memory itself, but the associations that are formed among the elements of the incident, that create much of the lasting disturbance in emotional response patterns after trauma. Eliminating the memory may not eliminate these consequences.

Overall, I see this as a potentially bad situation, analogous to treating depression with drugs only, that the insurance companies will leap upon as a cheap alternative to expensive psychotherapy--and so what if it's not very effective?

All that said, I do believe that rapidly administering Xanax after a traumatic incident can block the formation of PTSD.

Loudmxr

(1,405 posts)
4. This reminds me of the SCTV sketch "Milk Of Amnesia"
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:06 AM
Feb 2012

With Catherine O'Hara.

Who is not only pretty but a delightful talent I worked with several times.

My jaw dropped when she walked in the door because I didn't know it was she who I was working with.

She laughed at my boyish crush on her. She knew.

"Milk Of Amnesia. Take a little sip and the troubles go away"

Response to Greg K (Reply #11)

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. I'm sure it has "military applications"
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:19 AM
Feb 2012

just think of the possibilities, on the plus side it could aid those suffering from PTSD on the negative side it could eliminate the possibility of PTSD no matter what.....

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. In war one can kill, maim and traumatize without any bad personal lingering effects
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:24 AM
Feb 2012

How wonderful. Give it to our military while they're at war and our problems are solved.

This is not an attack on you.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
10. The take-away should be that people should cope with trauma immediately instead of
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:59 AM
Feb 2012

trying to pretend it didn't happen - not that 'debriefing' should be universal. I like to break shit, ride my motorcycle as fast as it will go, ride my mountain bike at highway speeds down terrain that would terrify a billy goat and scream wretched lyrics into a microphone over a cacophony of synths and guitars - but that's just me. If 'debriefing' was my only option I'd spontaneously burst into flame.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
14. Facinating Article
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 12:36 PM
Feb 2012

The treatment could erase neuropathic pain and treat drug addiction, OCD and PTSD.

It really isn't as scary as it sounds and although it could be used for nefarious purposes it could also eliminate a lot of needless suffering.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
15. I've often thought of this
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 12:40 PM
Feb 2012

in relation to hypnosis to stop the painful memories from various things in my past, but then I wondered what would happen to the rest of the memory.

Like, if I wanted to forget having to have a pet euthanized, would I also forget even having the pet in the first place...

If I didn't forget the pet but did forget what happened, would I then want to know what happened, and end up putting that memory right back into my brain's databank?

Also...I have panic disorder with agoraphobia. If I took a pill to forget I had these things would I still have them?

I often wake up in the middle of the night being haunted by memories of things, and there are times I just want it all to stop.



Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
16. Not according to the article.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:01 PM
Feb 2012

The memories are targeted and we really recreate these memories ourselves anyway (so they are constantly changing). You would specifically target the memory of having the dog euthanized.

With panic attacks, you would target the trigger and forget that it upset you so that it wouldn't cause an attack.

It really is a facinating article and worth the read.

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