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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet's ban the word "gun" from DU
Instead, let's mandate the use of "shit multipliers" because that's what many, many guns end up being.
Black kid walking through your gated community? Add a nitwit with a gun and things get horrific.
Drunk and pissed off at someone? Add a gun and it gets many times worse.
Sometimes forget to put things back in their place? Leave a gun around with kids and it gets many times worse.
Feeling depressed and at your wits' end? Add a gun and it gets many times worse.
That's why fewer guns = fewer gun deaths. Henceforth, let's refer to to guns in a way that reminds us of their true essence: shit multipliers.
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AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)One less word.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)just in different jobs). Then we can ban them from private security companies.
Or, I dunno, maybe we just want the few who control the many to own them? And perhaps they love spreading fear (like with 'terrorists') to further erode our rights?
Naw, it's just folks like me and you that shouldn't be trusted.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)really is at the bottom of all this, I think.
or the lack of it ... to be more specific.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)When I was a cop people did too (well, deputy, same thing).
Only difference is the clothes people wear to some extent. See that same person with a gun, not and work, and have no idea what they do for a living we instantly judge them based on what less than 1% of people who own guns do with them.
It's a bias thing. Me, you, others are not as equal as others because we don't trust our fellow citizens (unless they put on a uniform or a suit and tie). If a wealthy/famous person has armed body guards people think nothing of it. Poor person owns a gun and goes out two days a year hunting deer, he's bad.
People in power love seeing us not trust each other. They profit off of it and still get to do the things they don't want to allow us to do (from skipping airport security lines to guns to being able to travel anywhere to get an abortion for themselves or a loved one...the laws are meant to apply to the many by the few).
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Why not start with the soft targets?
At #13, you mentioned airport security. Why not first compile a list consisting of a combination of (1) the names of those who own registered firearms and (2) the names of those who have willingly gone through airport security lines and gotten unwanted free feel-ups without objection?
Start with them first.
Then move on to the ones who didn't get free feel-ups but went to the airports anyway and were willing to take a chance on doing so.
They too, would be softer targets. Much softer than the military and the police. And of course, much softer than the career criminals who deliver violence to get what they want and use firearms in their chosen professions. IMO, it's unlikely that those who want to take firearms away from everyone would actually show up to start with them first.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)From shooting at people in trucks (like when they were looking for dorner) to shooting up families in other countries.
The least threat we face is from fellow citizens who have obtained guns legally, so we go for the problem people first.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Even Bloomberg who opposes gun ownership and who plans on continuing with his unconstitutonal stop-and-frisk-without-probable-cause policy has the good sense to not actually get out on the streets and try that himself.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)When the country is practically being run by war profiteers and arms dealers, a gun culture is both expected and desired by them.
The best thing for Americans is to wake up from the nightmare they are projecting upon us, and CHOOSE another dream.
billh58
(6,635 posts)Good call...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Gun nuts seem to think they're some sort of ethnicity.
Hey, it's not me! They don't call them nuts for nothing.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)You need a more specific term.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Handguns are made for killing
Ain't no good for nothing else
If you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
-Lynyrd Skynyrd
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)I just don't see any problem with the existing word for gun. I have been known to refer to assault weapons as WMD. The gunners really hate that.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)ceonupe
(597 posts)N/m
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)about shit multipliers.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)
tblue
(16,350 posts)
Good idea, Manny!AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Have you crossed the line and are now willing to accept authoritarianism?
Or, maybe, accept authoritarianism "just this once"? For just this exception?
Rationalwiki has a related post regarding the phenomenon of authoritarianism:
"Authoritarianism is a very interesting phenomenon. Its adherents don't necessarily want to "tell you what to do" - as long as, if they disagree with you, someone else in power will tell you what to do.
"It is this honoring of power over reason that makes an authoritarian. The authoritarian loves rules, and loves to apply them.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
Will you be unhappy if there are old-fashion liberals such as myself who don't like following mandates and won't follow your proposed mandate? I've never been very good at following authoritarians. I won't start now.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)who wants his govewrnment catrated, but does like the idea of idiots armed to the teeth.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Set an example.
Oldtimeralso
(1,937 posts)did a good job of protecting ronny raygun from Hinckley
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)I do not agree. I want to discuss current events and legislation that may be pending.
WovenGems
(776 posts)This is my weapon
This is my gun
This is for killing
And this (grab crotch) is for fun
And never get the two confused or your drill Sgt. will have a field day.
flvegan
(64,407 posts)I love that we're still doing very, very stupid here.
Often, too.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)
Peaceplace80
(38 posts)82 innocent people were shot, 12 people died from their injuries while watching a movie. This horrible tragedy could of been avoided! Zimmerman was allowed to carry a gun even though he had a violent past. Stand Your Ground or "shoot first" is evidence that these laws have awful consequences. Regardless, of what happened that night, it is a fact that Trayvon is dead because Zimmerman was carrying a gun.
How many more mass murders or children have to die before something is done?! We shouldn't have live in fear when we send our children to school that they could next.
ConcernedCanuk
(13,509 posts).
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Once would have sufficed methinks.
If you not want a word used, don't be one that uses it more than anyone else in one post.
Now, on another cant - guns are a way of life for the USA - at home and abroad.
If they cannot be discussed, there is no way the issue can be resolved.
I don't think the rest of the 1/4 million people here on DU would have a friggen clue what a shit multiplier is.
Certainly don't get the connection up here . .
Rest of the World sure won't.
CC
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)
- Here's a few weapons from DARPA you can start with:
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Two feets they come a creepin'
Like a black cat do
And two bodies are layin' naked
Creeper think he got nothin' to lose
So he creeps into this house, yeah
And unlocks the door
And as a man's reaching for his trousers
Shoots him full of .38 holes
Mr. Saturday night special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin'
But put a man six feet in a hole
Big Jim's been drinkin' whiskey
And playin' poker on a losin' night
And pretty soon ol' Jim starts thinkin'
Somebody been cheatin' and lyin'
So Big Jim commence to fightin'
I wouldn't tell you no lie
Big Jim done pulled his pistol
Shot his friend right between the eyes
Mr. Saturday Night Special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin'
But put a man six feet in a hole
Oh, it's the Saturday Night Special
For twenty dollars you can buy yourself one too...
Well hand guns are made for killin'
They ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some ol' fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me
Mr. Saturday Night Special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin'
But put a man six feet in a hole
Ooooh it's a Saturday night special
And I'd like to tell you what you can do with it too...
ShawnRIN
(48 posts)Pistol or handgun works for a standard typical sidearm. Its also useful to separate terminology in rifles: hunting, sport, or assault. Caliber, make-model, and magazine capacity are also helpful. For example: a Ruger Mark III .22 LR, with a 10 round magazine, is very different from a Ruger .357 Magnum, revolver. I'm not saying I disagree with your sentiment, but I find it hard to take any firearm argument seriously with "shit multiplier."
S.A.M
(162 posts)Let's be like CUBA and Iran! Or colleges campuses with speech codes or Walmart codes for employees! Are you pointing a gun at the Bill of Rights?
billh58
(6,635 posts)are we...?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Every time you're having a conversation regarding these things that invoke an irrational fear in you, stick your right index finger in your right ear, your left index finger in your left ear, and say "La La La La" FOUR times, no more no less. Then continue on as you were.
If you practice that many times you can make it happen naturally and with no hesitation whatsoever and you will become very popular amongst your friends who share this irrational fear.
You may even become somewhat of a legend.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Did anyone expect a serious proposal?