HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Let's ban the word "gun" ...

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:30 PM

 

Let's ban the word "gun" from DU

Instead, let's mandate the use of "shit multipliers" because that's what many, many guns end up being.

Black kid walking through your gated community? Add a nitwit with a gun and things get horrific.

Drunk and pissed off at someone? Add a gun and it gets many times worse.

Sometimes forget to put things back in their place? Leave a gun around with kids and it gets many times worse.

Feeling depressed and at your wits' end? Add a gun and it gets many times worse.

That's why fewer guns = fewer gun deaths. Henceforth, let's refer to to guns in a way that reminds us of their true essence: shit multipliers.

43 replies, 4827 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 43 replies Author Time Post
Reply Let's ban the word "gun" from DU (Original post)
MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 OP
AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #1
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #2
The Straight Story Jul 2013 #3
Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2013 #8
The Straight Story Jul 2013 #13
AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #16
The Straight Story Jul 2013 #18
AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #23
felix_numinous Jul 2013 #38
Iggo Jul 2013 #4
billh58 Jul 2013 #5
Hoyt Jul 2013 #6
onehandle Jul 2013 #7
BainsBane Jul 2013 #9
Fumesucker Jul 2013 #33
BainsBane Jul 2013 #34
Safetykitten Jul 2013 #10
forestpath Jul 2013 #11
ceonupe Jul 2013 #12
MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #14
awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #15
otohara Jul 2013 #17
rrneck Jul 2013 #19
tblue Jul 2013 #20
AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #21
Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #25
DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #42
Skip Intro Jul 2013 #22
Oldtimeralso Jul 2013 #27
Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #24
WovenGems Jul 2013 #26
flvegan Jul 2013 #28
Fumesucker Jul 2013 #35
Peaceplace80 Jul 2013 #29
ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #30
Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #31
DeSwiss Jul 2013 #32
Dragonfli Jul 2013 #36
ShawnRIN Jul 2013 #37
S.A.M Jul 2013 #39
billh58 Jul 2013 #40
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #41
Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #43


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:34 PM

2. Henceforth, "shit multipliers" will be used to refer to lead acceleration devices.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:36 PM

3. Meh. Lets ban all guns. Start with the military and police first (they are, after all, folks like us

just in different jobs). Then we can ban them from private security companies.

Or, I dunno, maybe we just want the few who control the many to own them? And perhaps they love spreading fear (like with 'terrorists') to further erode our rights?

Naw, it's just folks like me and you that shouldn't be trusted.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Straight Story (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:46 PM

8. trust --

really is at the bottom of all this, I think.

or the lack of it ... to be more specific.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:55 PM

13. True. When my son was in Iraq we trusted him with a gun

When I was a cop people did too (well, deputy, same thing).

Only difference is the clothes people wear to some extent. See that same person with a gun, not and work, and have no idea what they do for a living we instantly judge them based on what less than 1% of people who own guns do with them.

It's a bias thing. Me, you, others are not as equal as others because we don't trust our fellow citizens (unless they put on a uniform or a suit and tie). If a wealthy/famous person has armed body guards people think nothing of it. Poor person owns a gun and goes out two days a year hunting deer, he's bad.

People in power love seeing us not trust each other. They profit off of it and still get to do the things they don't want to allow us to do (from skipping airport security lines to guns to being able to travel anywhere to get an abortion for themselves or a loved one...the laws are meant to apply to the many by the few).

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Straight Story (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:17 PM

16. Why start with the military and police?

 

Why not start with the soft targets?

At #13, you mentioned airport security. Why not first compile a list consisting of a combination of (1) the names of those who own registered firearms and (2) the names of those who have willingly gone through airport security lines and gotten unwanted free feel-ups without objection?

Start with them first.

Then move on to the ones who didn't get free feel-ups but went to the airports anyway and were willing to take a chance on doing so.

They too, would be softer targets. Much softer than the military and the police. And of course, much softer than the career criminals who deliver violence to get what they want and use firearms in their chosen professions. IMO, it's unlikely that those who want to take firearms away from everyone would actually show up to start with them first.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:23 PM

18. Probably because they use their weapons more to harm people

From shooting at people in trucks (like when they were looking for dorner) to shooting up families in other countries.

The least threat we face is from fellow citizens who have obtained guns legally, so we go for the problem people first.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Straight Story (Reply #18)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:47 PM

23. More likely than not, those who would get behind such an idea would get far behind.

 

Even Bloomberg who opposes gun ownership and who plans on continuing with his unconstitutonal stop-and-frisk-without-probable-cause policy has the good sense to not actually get out on the streets and try that himself.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Straight Story (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:28 PM

38. +1000

When the country is practically being run by war profiteers and arms dealers, a gun culture is both expected and desired by them.

The best thing for Americans is to wake up from the nightmare they are projecting upon us, and CHOOSE another dream.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:39 PM

4. It is decided.

http://m.&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8ez5Y9LZc8Q

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink



Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:45 PM

6. Zimmerman would never have gotten out of his car without his precious shit-multiplier.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:46 PM

7. That's Racist!

Gun nuts seem to think they're some sort of ethnicity.

Hey, it's not me! They don't call them nuts for nothing.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:47 PM

9. There are all kinds of shit multipliers

You need a more specific term.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BainsBane (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:05 AM

33. Ultimate shit multipliers?

Handguns are made for killing
Ain't no good for nothing else
If you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself

-Lynyrd Skynyrd

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Fumesucker (Reply #33)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:09 AM

34. I agree with the sentiment

I just don't see any problem with the existing word for gun. I have been known to refer to assault weapons as WMD. The gunners really hate that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink







Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:18 PM

17. Truer Words Were Never Spoken

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink



Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:34 PM

20. And Concealed Carry => Sneaky Shit Multipliers

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:35 PM

21. Mandate?

 

Have you crossed the line and are now willing to accept authoritarianism?

Or, maybe, accept authoritarianism "just this once"? For just this exception?

Rationalwiki has a related post regarding the phenomenon of authoritarianism:
"Authoritarianism is a very interesting phenomenon. Its adherents don't necessarily want to "tell you what to do" - as long as, if they disagree with you, someone else in power will tell you what to do.

"It is this honoring of power over reason that makes an authoritarian. The authoritarian loves rules, and loves to apply them.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

Will you be unhappy if there are old-fashion liberals such as myself who don't like following mandates and won't follow your proposed mandate? I've never been very good at following authoritarians. I won't start now.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink



Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:16 PM

42. ah a voice of free-dumb

who wants his govewrnment catrated, but does like the idea of idiots armed to the teeth.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:47 PM

22. I wonder if Obama should ban the Secret Service from carrying guns?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Skip Intro (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:26 PM

27. The Secret Service...

did a good job of protecting ronny raygun from Hinckley

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:09 PM

24. It is part of our culture. Not mentioning it will not make it disappear.

I do not agree. I want to discuss current events and legislation that may be pending.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:16 PM

26. Army ditty

This is my weapon
This is my gun
This is for killing
And this (grab crotch) is for fun

And never get the two confused or your drill Sgt. will have a field day.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:37 PM

28. "Shit multiplier" is a good term to use for some DUers.

I love that we're still doing very, very stupid here.

Often, too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to flvegan (Reply #28)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:15 AM

35. You forgot to add blue links

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:39 PM

29. A year ago today

82 innocent people were shot, 12 people died from their injuries while watching a movie. This horrible tragedy could of been avoided! Zimmerman was allowed to carry a gun even though he had a violent past. Stand Your Ground or "shoot first" is evidence that these laws have awful consequences. Regardless, of what happened that night, it is a fact that Trayvon is dead because Zimmerman was carrying a gun.
How many more mass murders or children have to die before something is done?! We shouldn't have live in fear when we send our children to school that they could next.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:43 PM

30. You used a combination of gun/guns NINE times in your OP

 

.
.
.

Once would have sufficed methinks.

If you not want a word used, don't be one that uses it more than anyone else in one post.

Now, on another cant - guns are a way of life for the USA - at home and abroad.

If they cannot be discussed, there is no way the issue can be resolved.

I don't think the rest of the 1/4 million people here on DU would have a friggen clue what a shit multiplier is.

Certainly don't get the connection up here . .

Rest of the World sure won't.

CC

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:43 PM

31. Cue the shit-sniffers in 5. . .4. . .3. . .2. . .1. . .

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:58 AM

32. Okay.....

 

...but if that's the new name for guns you've got your work cut out for you to find new names for all that other shit we've got.

- Here's a few weapons from DARPA you can start with:



And a few more.

K&R

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:06 AM

36. Big Jim's been drinkin' whiskey And playin' poker on a losin' night...



Lyrics:
Two feets they come a creepin'
Like a black cat do
And two bodies are layin' naked
Creeper think he got nothin' to lose
So he creeps into this house, yeah
And unlocks the door
And as a man's reaching for his trousers
Shoots him full of .38 holes

Mr. Saturday night special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin'
But put a man six feet in a hole

Big Jim's been drinkin' whiskey
And playin' poker on a losin' night
And pretty soon ol' Jim starts thinkin'
Somebody been cheatin' and lyin'
So Big Jim commence to fightin'
I wouldn't tell you no lie
Big Jim done pulled his pistol
Shot his friend right between the eyes

Mr. Saturday Night Special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin'
But put a man six feet in a hole

Oh, it's the Saturday Night Special
For twenty dollars you can buy yourself one too...

Well hand guns are made for killin'
They ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some ol' fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

Mr. Saturday Night Special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin'
But put a man six feet in a hole

Ooooh it's a Saturday night special
And I'd like to tell you what you can do with it too...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:21 AM

37. Agree with the value of specifying the language but not that one

Pistol or handgun works for a standard typical sidearm. Its also useful to separate terminology in rifles: hunting, sport, or assault. Caliber, make-model, and magazine capacity are also helpful. For example: a Ruger Mark III .22 LR, with a 10 round magazine, is very different from a Ruger .357 Magnum, revolver. I'm not saying I disagree with your sentiment, but I find it hard to take any firearm argument seriously with "shit multiplier."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:40 PM

39. Let just ban free speech all together!

 

Let's be like CUBA and Iran! Or colleges campuses with speech codes or Walmart codes for employees! Are you pointing a gun at the Bill of Rights?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to S.A.M (Reply #39)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:21 PM

40. Satire impaired

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:31 PM

41. I have a better idea. Way better.

 

Every time you're having a conversation regarding these things that invoke an irrational fear in you, stick your right index finger in your right ear, your left index finger in your left ear, and say "La La La La" FOUR times, no more no less. Then continue on as you were.

If you practice that many times you can make it happen naturally and with no hesitation whatsoever and you will become very popular amongst your friends who share this irrational fear.

You may even become somewhat of a legend.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:49 AM

43. The OP is a spoof, in keeping with most control/ban threads.

 

Did anyone expect a serious proposal?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread