Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:09 PM

Should a Democrat always disagree with everything a Republican says?

I thought the Republicans were naughty for purposely disagreeing with everything Democrats want.

But now I'm told that because RonRand Paul and I happen to overlap on a few ideas, like the Fourth Amendment being actual law, I'm not being a good Democrat. Even if if I have zero use for RonRand in any capacity.

So... Should I make sure that I always disagree with RonRand Paul? What if RonRand Paul disagree with other Republicans? Should I just refuse to have an opinion in that case?

Help me out here!

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	We should do what's right, what Republicans think is of little importance.
	31 (94%)
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Should a Democrat always disagree with everything a Republican says? (Original post)	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	OP
Do what's right. If republicans agree so be it. nt	bluestate10	Jul 2013	#1
We should do what get us the most votes, what Republicans think is of little importance	NoOneMan	Jul 2013	#2
No	LittleBlue	Jul 2013	#3
We should do what's right, what Republicans think is of little importance	Flashmann	Jul 2013	#4
You will do as you please, no matter how people	MineralMan	Jul 2013	#5
And there it is	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#8
There is much more to it than that.	MineralMan	Jul 2013	#9
Like what?	YoungDemCA	Jul 2013	#15
Paul disagreed with Bush all of his egregious policies both foreign and those 'laws' he managed	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#22
Ron Paul said he never voted for spending bills but made sure he attached his	Thinkingabout	Jul 2013	#71
Any other Republicans who opposed Bush's Wars? We certainly have plenty of Democrats	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#119
Fuck Ron Paul!	MineralMan	Jul 2013	#98
Fuck Republicans like Clapper in a Democratic President's Administration.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#118
Fucking A right! K&R	think	Jul 2013	#128
!	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#139
Manny aggrandizing himself? Say it ain't so!	great white snark	Jul 2013	#56
Attempting to divide Democrats again too.	emulatorloo	Jul 2013	#154
Paul mania strikes again.	mick063	Jul 2013	#74
Paul was opposed to Bush's foreign policies. He was rightabout that.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#130
Bravo!	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#6
Especially when in the process one ends up "standing with" many more TeaPubliKlans	TheKentuckian	Jul 2013	#10
Ain't that the truth	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#11
Bingo. nt	laundry_queen	Jul 2013	#12
That, in a nutshell...	99Forever	Jul 2013	#92
Especially when they have not a word to say about a Democratic President who apparently	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#23
Whacky huh?	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#33
Yes, I've tried over an over to get a response to my questions about this, but as you can see	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#34
Answer? No	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#39
Lol, well since I'm not even getting that anymore, I guess it has become too much of a problem	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#40
Well, Obama must believe that "continuity of government" matters	99th_Monkey	Jul 2013	#37
I just wish I could get an answer to my question, which I think is reasonable since	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#38
Yes, I quite agree with your assessment Sabrina 1	99th_Monkey	Jul 2013	#41
Bwahaha keep thinking that.	great white snark	Jul 2013	#47
Don't know any libertarians on DU, but I sure know a LIBELtarian when I see one	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#58
The important thing is to be on the team bus, not under it.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2013	#7
Like	ProSense	Jul 2013	#13
Why has Obama appointed so many Republicans to his Cabinet in positions of power that we	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#24
You should ask him.	ProSense	Jul 2013	#44
I asked you.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#46
And I told you what to do. n/t	ProSense	Jul 2013	#49
Is Dodge your middle name?	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#60
Don't ask stupid questions unrelated to the point I made. n/t	ProSense	Jul 2013	#62
Clearly its ok to agree with Republicans, particularly when they call	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#14
Please link to an example	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#16
No, and no.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#17
Yes, I saw the Stasi mentioned recently	Oilwellian	Jul 2013	#18
+1 I believe he said the Stasi would be jealous of the NSA.	woo me with science	Jul 2013	#21
That's right	Oilwellian	Jul 2013	#25
The funny thing is that I had not seen that particular DU reference to	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#122
Well, this is ironic.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#159
three people on one jury used the word 'hyperbole'	ProdigalJunkMail	Jul 2013	#20
Thanks ... btw ...	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#129
Please post an example of your claim or you need to remove that post.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#26
Again, no. Such refeences are made her all the time.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#123
My dislike is not for any person. Politics is not about 'persons', it is about policies. Your	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#133
What you are saying is that we should ignore half of the country.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#135
Nailed it. nt	Bobbie Jo	Jul 2013	#136
We are not talking about A Reublican we are talking Republicans in Defense, in Economics, in	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#138
Half the people is not all the people.	thetonka	Jul 2013	#153
Where have DUers called Obama a Nazi?	leftstreet	Jul 2013	#42
Oh come on.	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#51
That's your proof that DU'ers call Pres Obama a Nazi "on a fairly regular basis?	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#59
If that's a question, the answer is no,	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#68
The original post #14, stated calling Pres Obama a Nazi "happens right here on DU on a fairly regula	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#78
A jury disagreed with you on post #14, and I posted several links. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#81
Neither you nor poster #14 provided any links showing any DU'ers calling Pres Obama	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#95
Absolutely false. I supplied links in post #51 above. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#101
The link you posted did not show a DU poster calling Pres Obama a Nazi.	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#103
Look, you made a claim. Your claim is false. This is your stink, not mine. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#104
You claimed that DU posters called the President a Nazi. That is your stink. nm	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#105
That is another false claim, as your friend below discovered. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#108
Um, no you didn't. But thanks for the proof that no DUer ever called the President a 'nazi'.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#142
Actually, I did: I posted two links, an excerpt, and a video in #51.	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#147
As I've told many right wingers, you can't get out of it that way	treestar	Jul 2013	#55
Sometimes they DO say it exactly.	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#61
Put up or shut up. You claim DUers call Obama a Nazi	leftstreet	Jul 2013	#87
Oh? And where did I claim that?	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#90
You're not even very good at this	leftstreet	Jul 2013	#91
You didn't answer the question, because I said no such thing. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#100
In your response to post #42. Did you forget? Or did you think your clever wording would get by?	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#111
I made no such claim, and if you think I did, post a direct quotation with a link. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#115
Highly insinuated in some of the NSA/Snowden threads	treestar	Jul 2013	#134
You're not going to like what is happening in Europe then if you don't like the very apt	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#144
Yes indeed.	emulatorloo	Jul 2013	#155
Then prove it. So far you have failed to do so. n/t	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#143
Wrong. I proved it with two images, and in the post you just answered.	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#145
??? That is an image from the Drudge Report, a despicable site to which I would never give a	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#148
You need to read more carefully. Hint: pronoun reference. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#149
You need to prove what you claimed. Hint ~ Duers called the President a Nazi.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#150
You're the third person to make that false claim. Prove it or begone. nt	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#151
Bingo. nt.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#124
Good grief, are you for real? nm	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#53
It's an excellent starting postition.	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#19
So why does President Obama have so many Republicans in his cabinet?	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#28
The short answer is optics.	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#36
It makes a whole lot of difference to those who voted for Democrats rather than Republicans	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#43
The problem is that most cabinet-level positions require Senate confirmation	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#48
Plus they are working for a Democratic President	treestar	Jul 2013	#54
Yes, exactly. Oddly enough,	ucrdem	Jul 2013	#57
Do you really think Comey is the best man for the job?	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#96
You honestly think that Clapper, Mueller, Comey, Alexander, and Brennan changed	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#80
they don't have to agree with the President politically to carry out the job	treestar	Jul 2013	#89
I am betting the Pres doesnt know the first thing about the intelligence	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#94
I posted something about this …	1StrongBlackMan	Jul 2013	#157
Convenient and	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#63
Oh bs. So effing sick of the excuses we have for everything that is wrong about this country.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#120
The long answer is that he had no choice. Those in charge told him who to appoint. That's why	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#112
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever,	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jul 2013	#27
+lots-o-numbers! n/t	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#35
Republicans are an afterthought.	hrmjustin	Jul 2013	#29
don't think, just obey	markiv	Jul 2013	#30
Knee-Jerks!!	RobertEarl	Jul 2013	#31
OTHER: Yes, otherwise they will be skewered on DU for having ANY truck w/ GOP. ~nt	99th_Monkey	Jul 2013	#32
I think we should always oppose everything Republicans want	burnodo	Jul 2013	#45
What do we do when Chuck Hagel wants something? n/t	hughee99	Jul 2013	#64
'twas Obama's fault for nominating him	burnodo	Jul 2013	#69
He works for Obama though, and presumably what he says	hughee99	Jul 2013	#85
Ohhhhh....well	burnodo	Jul 2013	#86
Then, of course, you have those issues that get unanimous votes...	hughee99	Jul 2013	#93
Well it certainly works for Republicans	burnodo	Jul 2013	#99
Does it really work for them, though?	hughee99	Jul 2013	#102
It keeps them within miniscule percentages of the popular vote	burnodo	Jul 2013	#109
That is the lamest thing I have heard for a long time. Why would you appoint someone that is	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#113
They always have the option to fire him if he doesn't behave, just as they had	hughee99	Jul 2013	#114
Always question authority	MrMickeysMom	Jul 2013	#50
Every person has a duty to seek the truth. nt	Deep13	Jul 2013	#52
Just when they talk stupid; or make shit up; or violate the Constitution	Demeter	Jul 2013	#65
We should do whats right	madokie	Jul 2013	#66
Neither party should dismiss utility in favor of ideology or emotion. nt	AllINeedIsCoffee	Jul 2013	#67
Aww …	1StrongBlackMan	Jul 2013	#158
Fuck Ron and Rand Paul.	bluedigger	Jul 2013	#70
The majority of posts referencing the Pauls are by the	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#73
I think it's a strawman hypothesis to begin with.	bluedigger	Jul 2013	#79
I agree	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#82
even a broken watch	quaker bill	Jul 2013	#72
No, but	shawn703	Jul 2013	#75
In my opinion, ideas are greater than party labels. nt	ZombieHorde	Jul 2013	#76
^^^this^^^	L0oniX	Jul 2013	#152
Always Disagreeing with Your Interlocutor	On the Road	Jul 2013	#77
du rec.	xchrom	Jul 2013	#83
You do what is right	Half-Century Man	Jul 2013	#84
repub libertarians, fundamentalists and corporatists rarely agree.	pampango	Jul 2013	#88
The way I look at it Manny is that Republicans and any other malcontents are free to agree with me	Bluenorthwest	Jul 2013	#97
When republicans tell the truth or use facts, I will agree with them.	liberal N proud	Jul 2013	#106
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jul 2013	#107
Once a month Rand Paul says something sane	carolinayellowdog	Jul 2013	#110
Look at 'em freak the hell out. Lol.	Union Scribe	Jul 2013	#116
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2013	#117
Not just for the sake of doing so...	LeftishBrit	Jul 2013	#121
Do what is right, but when was the last	B Calm	Jul 2013	#125
With this current collection of Right Wingers, absolutely disagree with everything	MrScorpio	Jul 2013	#126
if certain Republicans are against spying on our own people- then I think we should support it	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2013	#127
Rand Paul's neo-Confederate sympathies are a deal breaker for me...	MinM	Jul 2013	#131
Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. nt	Zorra	Jul 2013	#132
Only when trying to enter the Pyramids of Mars nt	One_Life_To_Give	Jul 2013	#137
THEY are the party of "NO." We are not.	DFW	Jul 2013	#140
The possible responses for the poll don't seem well thought out.	Omnith	Jul 2013	#141
Apparently it's impossible to disagree with them once you're elected President ;^)	grahamhgreen	Jul 2013	#146
Divide and conquer, baby!	emulatorloo	Jul 2013	#156

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:11 PM

bluestate10 (10,942 posts)

Should a Democrat always disagree with everything a Republican says?

1. Do what's right. If republicans agree so be it. nt

2. We should do what get us the most votes, what Republicans think is of little importance

3. No

4. We should do what's right, what Republicans think is of little importance

5. You will do as you please, no matter how people

8. And there it is

9. There is much more to it than that.

15. Like what?

22. Paul disagreed with Bush all of his egregious policies both foreign and those 'laws' he managed

71. Ron Paul said he never voted for spending bills but made sure he attached his

119. Any other Republicans who opposed Bush's Wars? We certainly have plenty of Democrats

98. Fuck Ron Paul!

118. Fuck Republicans like Clapper in a Democratic President's Administration.

128. Fucking A right! K&R

139. !

56. Manny aggrandizing himself? Say it ain't so!

154. Attempting to divide Democrats again too.

74. Paul mania strikes again.

130. Paul was opposed to Bush's foreign policies. He was rightabout that.

6. Bravo!

10. Especially when in the process one ends up "standing with" many more TeaPubliKlans

11. Ain't that the truth

12. Bingo. nt

92. That, in a nutshell...

23. Especially when they have not a word to say about a Democratic President who apparently

33. Whacky huh?

34. Yes, I've tried over an over to get a response to my questions about this, but as you can see

39. Answer? No

40. Lol, well since I'm not even getting that anymore, I guess it has become too much of a problem

37. Well, Obama must believe that "continuity of government" matters

38. I just wish I could get an answer to my question, which I think is reasonable since

41. Yes, I quite agree with your assessment Sabrina 1

47. Bwahaha keep thinking that.

58. Don't know any libertarians on DU, but I sure know a LIBELtarian when I see one

7. The important thing is to be on the team bus, not under it.

13. Like

24. Why has Obama appointed so many Republicans to his Cabinet in positions of power that we

44. You should ask him.

46. I asked you.

49. And I told you what to do. n/t

60. Is Dodge your middle name?

62. Don't ask stupid questions unrelated to the point I made. n/t

14. Clearly its ok to agree with Republicans, particularly when they call

16. Please link to an example

17. No, and no.

18. Yes, I saw the Stasi mentioned recently

21. +1 I believe he said the Stasi would be jealous of the NSA.

25. That's right

122. The funny thing is that I had not seen that particular DU reference to

159. Well, this is ironic.

20. three people on one jury used the word 'hyperbole'

129. Thanks ... btw ...

26. Please post an example of your claim or you need to remove that post.

123. Again, no. Such refeences are made her all the time.

133. My dislike is not for any person. Politics is not about 'persons', it is about policies. Your

135. What you are saying is that we should ignore half of the country.

136. Nailed it. nt

138. We are not talking about A Reublican we are talking Republicans in Defense, in Economics, in

153. Half the people is not all the people.

42. Where have DUers called Obama a Nazi?

51. Oh come on.

59. That's your proof that DU'ers call Pres Obama a Nazi "on a fairly regular basis?

68. If that's a question, the answer is no,

78. The original post #14, stated calling Pres Obama a Nazi "happens right here on DU on a fairly regula

81. A jury disagreed with you on post #14, and I posted several links. nt

95. Neither you nor poster #14 provided any links showing any DU'ers calling Pres Obama

101. Absolutely false. I supplied links in post #51 above. nt

103. The link you posted did not show a DU poster calling Pres Obama a Nazi.

104. Look, you made a claim. Your claim is false. This is your stink, not mine. nt

105. You claimed that DU posters called the President a Nazi. That is your stink. nm

108. That is another false claim, as your friend below discovered. nt

142. Um, no you didn't. But thanks for the proof that no DUer ever called the President a 'nazi'.

147. Actually, I did: I posted two links, an excerpt, and a video in #51.

55. As I've told many right wingers, you can't get out of it that way

61. Sometimes they DO say it exactly.

87. Put up or shut up. You claim DUers call Obama a Nazi

90. Oh? And where did I claim that?

91. You're not even very good at this

100. You didn't answer the question, because I said no such thing. nt