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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 08:00 PM Aug 2013

Here’s what real reform of the NSA looks like (Rush Holt's "Surveillance State Repeal Act")

Here’s what real reform of the NSA looks like

By Timothy B. Lee, Published: August 2 at 9:21 am

Rep. Rush Holt has long been one of the most outspoken critics of the surveillance state. First elected in 1998 to represent central New Jersey, the Democrat served on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which oversees U.S. intelligence agencies, from 2003 until 2011. He is currently seeking the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate from New Jersey, running against Newark mayor Cory Booker.

Last week, Holt introduced the "Surveillance State Repeal Act". A number of members of Congress have offered proposals to rein in domestic surveillance, but Holt’s bill may be the most ambitious. It would repeal the 2001 Patriot Act, which the NSA has cited as the legal basis for its phone records surveillance program. It would also repeal the 2008 FISA Amendments Act, the legal foundation for the government’s PRISM program. And it would extend whistleblower protections to cover employees of intelligence agencies.

Holt spoke to us from the campaign trail on Thursday. The transcript has been edited for length and clarity.


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Timothy B. Lee: How would your legislation be different from other NSA reform proposals?

Rush Holt: This isn’t reform. This is repeal. I voted against both of those (the Patriot Act and the FAA) before. And actually against Patriot before multiple times. Those bills were misguided in their specifics, and now seeing what various agencies have done to stretch the language of those bills to cover things that were never intended to be covered makes clear that they’ve got to go. Even Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) (the author of the Patriot Act) has said it was never intended to be used that way.

Have you been surprised by the revelations that have come out in the last couple of months?

I sat on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and chaired the Select Intelligence Oversight Panel, which was created at the recommendation of the 9/11 panel, and should be continuing except that Speaker (John) Boehner abolished it when he took office.

So having dealt with the leaders of the intelligence committee, not much surprises me. They’re in the business of secrecy and deception. And unfortunately it carries over to their interaction with Congress. One of the things about your article that I particularly liked was that you pointed out that dogged questioning by reporters has shown that the role of these programs in preventing terrorism has been peripheral at best.

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The idea of the Fourth Amendment is not to get in the way of law enforcement and intelligence, but rather to see that they do a good job by having to prove at each step of the way that they know what they’re doing, that they’re not off running down hunches and going off on wild goose chases and witch hunts. So I’m not sure what the NSA folks and folks like Clapper have been saying behind closed doors about how effective this stuff is, but I watched it for years, and it is not effective at keeping Americans safer on balance.

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Your proposal also would extend whistleblower protections to national security cases, right?

Yes, the legislation provides whistleblower protection for people who work in the intelligence agencies. Right now, they have no whistleblower protection comparable to what exists in other agencies. Especially in the (intelligence) agencies we need that. In agencies that are dominated by secrecy and deception .... If there had been whistleblower protection, I’m quite sure that Snowden would not have done what he did.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/02/heres-what-real-reform-of-the-nsa-looks-like/

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Here’s what real reform of the NSA looks like (Rush Holt's "Surveillance State Repeal Act") (Original Post) Catherina Aug 2013 OP
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #1
k&R think Aug 2013 #2
Also what a real Democrat does. n/t brentspeak Aug 2013 #3
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #4
K&R! nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #5
as I drive around NJ NJCher Aug 2013 #6
That's great news. Catherina Aug 2013 #9
Good. Now let's get help this legislation through. nt caseymoz Aug 2013 #7
K & R GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #8
kick/rec. nm limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #10
K&R proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #11
That's not all. proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #12
Watch Rush on The Colbert Report tomorrow. proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #13
Hear, hear! woo me with science Aug 2013 #14
K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #15
NJ 12th, support this man... PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #16
I'm not from NJ, but I like his ideas Aerows Aug 2013 #17
Me either. NW here. The Blue coast. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #18
Red Gulf Coast, as in right on it Aerows Aug 2013 #20
there has been a lot PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #23
I'm voting for Rush on Tuesday! smokey nj Aug 2013 #19
hear, hear nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #21
I like it. This is what we need, this is what we needed long, long ago. I remember Holt, sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22
How will the DEA function if it can't spy on Americans & lie in court with phony investigations??? Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #24
Maybe this is the type of courageous Democrat we need to run for President? kentuck Aug 2013 #25
kick woo me with science Aug 2013 #26
HOW DO I DONATE TO THIS GUY'S CAMPAIGN? Th1onein Aug 2013 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #28
Wouldn't it be great to see Rep. Holt in the Senate, instead of another Wall St. tool? nt Zorra Aug 2013 #29

NJCher

(35,619 posts)
6. as I drive around NJ
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:20 PM
Aug 2013

I am surprised at the number of Rush Holt campaign signs I see.

I am going to contact the campaign and volunteer.


Cher

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
12. That's not all.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:31 PM
Aug 2013


http://www.rushholt.com/news/national-now-pac-endorses-representative-rush-holt

August 09 2013

The following is a press release from the New Jersey chapter of the National Organization for Women:


NATIONAL NOW PAC Endorses Representative Rush Holt as the Candidate of Choice in the Special Primary Election

Upon unanimous recommendation of the NOW-NJ PAC, the National NOW PAC has endorsed U.S. Representative Rush Holt in the special primary August 13th election for the open New Jersey U.S. Senate seat.

According to NOW-NJ PAC Chair Jennifer Armiger:

“The NOW-NJ PAC and the National NOW PAC feel that Rush Holt is the best candidate to uphold former Senator Frank Lautenberg’s legacy in support of women’s rights, progressive issues, and equality for all in the Garden State and at the federal level.

“In sharp contrast to some of the other candidates in the primary race, Holt has a record of leadership on women’s and progressive issues. He has been willing to stand up and defend the rights of women, the LGBTQI community, and the hardworking voters in his district, even when it has meant challenging the political status quo.

“While the NOW-NJ PAC was able to schedule interviews with Representative Rush Holt, Assembly Speaker Sheila Oliver, and Representative Frank Pallone, Mayor Cory Booker’s campaign was entirely unresponsive to our requests for interview, despite repeated attempts to contact his offices by phone, email, and other means. For this reason, the NOW-NJ PAC cannot consider a recommendation for endorsement of Booker’s candidacy.

“We note that our difficulties with the Booker campaign speak plainly to the broad concerns about his bid for office and the running of his Senate campaign--that he is strong on style and ideas, but weak and unproven on the issues. He is unresponsive to his constituency and has produced little in terms of real outcomes that improve the lives of residents and voters in the city of Newark, most especially women and the underserved.

"Feminists and progressive allies will not simply hand over a Senate seat in the face of the pressure of public celebrity. New Jersey voters deserve a candidate who will have their best interests at heart--that candidate is Rush Holt.”

A longtime member of the board of Planned Parenthood of Mercer County, Holt supports and will continue to defend abortion rights and reproductive freedom. He supports the Equal Rights Amendment, pay equity for women, marriage equality, protection of social security, labor rights and public sector workers' rights, environmental protection, and single-payer health insurance. Holt also strongly defends civil liberties and he is unwilling to bargain away workers' rights and protections, as well as United States industry and sovereignty, in the name of free trade.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
14. Hear, hear!
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:34 PM
Aug 2013

REAL repeal, not just an attempt to make us "comfortable" with the trashing of the Constitution.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. Red Gulf Coast, as in right on it
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:54 PM
Aug 2013

I still like his ideas, and I always vote Blue (though I criticize blue when it doesn't act blue, simply because I know what red looks like!)

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
23. there has been a lot
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:58 PM
Aug 2013

I just decided to trashcan up a bunch of threads that, imo, were just baiting progressives. They were distracting me from the positive threads, such as this one. So, I trashed them. I got tired of arguing. I do not like to do it. I do not like echo chambers. I want other views and perspectives available to me. But, enough was enough for me in regards to these specific types of threads...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. I like it. This is what we need, this is what we needed long, long ago. I remember Holt,
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:57 PM
Aug 2013

I hope he beats Cory Booker as this is one issue that must be resolved as soon as possible. I'd like to know where Booker stands on all of this.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. How will the DEA function if it can't spy on Americans & lie in court with phony investigations???
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:00 PM
Aug 2013

good Christ, how are they ever going to catch all the pot smokers, then?

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
25. Maybe this is the type of courageous Democrat we need to run for President?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:51 PM
Aug 2013

It will take a lot of courage to take on TPTB.

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