WHOA! Just found out that a guy I dated years ago charged with murder.

[Th1onein]

A cold case. He said that the girl had drowned and the cops were unable to charge him. Way back in the day, they came to my job and asked to talk to me about him, because I had dated him.

Every once in a while, I get curious and look him up on the web, expecting to see him charged with murder (I think he is involved in the I-45 murders), and there he was!

On Edit: And he looks like HELL! I guess that's what drugs will do to you.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I think you dodged a bullet...

[pipoman]

2. This is what the Zimmerman prosecution hoped for when

they realized there was no evidence, and why he wouldn't have been charged if it weren't for the public outcry...later he would have bragged to someone and maybe used an actual slur giving the prosecution another witness..

[Hoyt]

7. Oh, Zman supporters can't understand "public outcry" when an armed bully bigot shoots unarmed kid?

Jeezus, the outcry seems justified to most.

[pipoman]

14. Outcry by people who

are know-nothings when it comes to criminal prosecution insured there will never be a conviction...

[Hoyt]

15. "Know nothings," who didn't realize how NRA, right wing gun nuts, and Florida Legislature conspired

to rewrite self-defense laws to allow armed bully bigots to shoot unarmed kids.

[pipoman]

17. There is no law which has been passed

which has made it less possible to convict people on charges with no evidence. No evidence has always resulted in acquittal. The self defense laws have not been changed from their historical roots. The change was a failed experiment into a policy called 'duty to retreat'...a policy which failed and has since been revoked in every state it was attempted. Why? Because way too many innocent people were convicted or left penniless trying to defend themselves again..there is nothing liberal about putting victims on trial or convicting innocent people..

[Hoyt]

19. Plenty of evidence that Zman grabbed his gun and took off after unarmed black kid.

Evidence included fact Zman was violent, on meds that make one aggressive, was a bigot, training to beat people up, carried a gun in case training didn't work, etc.

SYG changed focus to few seconds before he murdered Martin. What happened then did not matter because Zman had already begun the murder dance.

Gun nuts and bigots support Zman, that tells me something, even if you choose to ignore it.

[Jenoch]

3. If you think a guy

you dated years ago is now involved with the I-45 murders, why have you not informed law enforcement of the details. If you have informed law inforcement of the details, please let us also know those details.

[BainsBane]

8. She said the cops had already come to her

[Jenoch]

13. Of course I don't know any details,

but the OP reads like she spoke to LEOs about a drowning and then seems to make a reference to other crimes. I simply suggested that if she has any further information, she should also present that to LEO.

[Th1onein]

23. I HAVE informed them.

I called the FBI, and told them what I thought. But what I think is not evidence.

I've done all I can do. Period.

[Jenoch]

29. I am sorry for your

experience with this guy and I hope he is convicted of his crimes.

[LuvNewcastle]

4. Back in college, I used to help one of my classmates when he wrote

his papers. We weren't best buddies or anything, but we were friendly enough. He liked to joke around and he talked about sex a lot, but that's rather normal for guys that age. A couple of days after the last time I saw him, the state police were on campus looking for him. None of us had any idea why they were there; we all thought he was just missing and his parents had the cops looking for him.

A couple of days later, there was a story in the paper about a woman who had been raped and killed. My friend was listed as the suspect. This was a rather small college, and everybody was shocked. Last I heard, he was in prison, but I don't know how much time he got. It's a weird feeling when you find out a friend is a murderer and rapist. Makes you wonder how many other violent criminals you know.

[pipoman]

18. Similar to my experience several years ago

my dog got out of our fence and was running at large. At around 9am a knock at our door and it was the local code enforcement officer bringing her back. I was out looking for the dog when my wife called me to tell me she had been returned. When I got home my wife and the enforcement guy were sitting on the porch and he was drinking a bottle of water my wife gave him. We talked for 10 or 15 minutes..then he was on his way. About 2 weeks later the enforcement officer was arrested..Dennis Rader..

[justiceischeap]

21. Holy shit!

Did you get any kind of creepy BTK killer vibes when you spoke with him? Also, from what I understand, you're lucky he didn't kill your dog.

[pipoman]

22. He was a little odd..

I had spoken with him a few other times. The house next door was vacant and the owner lived out of state. He would come by periodically and measure the grass. The city could mow the yard and charge the property owner when the grass reached a certain length. Park City is a fairly small town and I lived on a street which was a residential thoroughfare so I saw him nearly every day driving by. We have since wondered if he intended to come back and lure her out of the yard when the timing was better..she was very docile and didn't bark. He found her after a call reporting her stuck in the fence at a hotel parking lot, so too many people knew about her. She was a German Shepard.

[LuvNewcastle]

27. Glad you lived to tell the tale.

The feeling you get after such a close call with danger is like seeing your own ghost.

[Raine]

5. A little boy I played with when we were both kids along with his sister after

growing up murdered their half brother after making him dig his own grave. They were both such sweet kids, I wonder what caused them to do such a thing.

[LuvNewcastle]

6. OMG, that terrible!

My first instinct is to say that he must have done something to those kids, but you never know. The hardest thing to understand about such a situation is why you didn't see any signs of abnormality. We tend to think that it's hard for people to become murderers. The more I look at the world, the more it seems that murder isn't so abnormal. We all have it in us; some people just don't have the ability to suppress those feelings and stay within the bounds that society sets for us.

[BainsBane]

9. How creepy

So glad he never hurt you.

[Th1onein]

24. Oh, he hurt me. When I broke up with him, I came home from work one night, and

he was there, in my house. He raped me.

That's how the cops knew I had dated him--because I had filed charges against him for the rape.

[Jamastiene]

10. My friend's brother shot and killed their father the day after I had been at their house

overnight for a sleepover. I came home the next afternoon after the sleepover. That evening after it got dark outside, my friend called me to tell me what happened. My friend's older brother waited until it got dark outside, then went outside their father's den window and shot him from there. The shot killed him instantly. The older brother was trying to make it look like someone else did it, but the family knew the older brother did it. I hadn't been home 3 hours when she called me to tell me what happened. I have never gotten over that.

[customerserviceguy]

11. I know how you feel

About ten years after high school graduation, I found out that a classmate was in prison for murder. I actually got into a fistfight in the hall with him, when he was picking on one of my smaller friends. We were taken to the principal's office, and I immediately backed the other guy down, the principal asked, "Is this true, Mike?" to the other guy, and he sheepishly held his head down and admitted it.

When I found out that his bullying led to prison time, I figured I had dodged a bullet.

[madokie]

12. A child hood friend

who I grew up with, who spent a lot of time in our home as a child, raped and murdered a girl shortly after returning from VN. Last I heard he is dead. Died in a Texas prison.
The girl he raped and murdered was a class mate of my wifes, although we didn't know each other back in those school days we did know each other when he committed the murder.
I think that many times we don't fully know someone who we spend a lot of time with

[dembotoz]

16. the road not taken

is not always bad

[graywarrior]

20. Holy shit!

You are damned lucky! That is creepy!

[Th1onein]

25. It really is creepy. He could have killed me.

This is what you get for choosing to date people based on their looks. This guy was movie star hot, but he was incredibly evil inside.

Now? All the ugly, inside, looks like it came out. I can't believe how bad this guy looks. He's 59 and he looks at least 70. And a BAD 70, at that.

[graywarrior]

26. Makes you wonder how many psychos are out there

More than we care to know

[Th1onein]

28. And, somehow, I always picked the worst ones!

My "picker" is broken, and I gave up a long time ago. I'm single, and I've learned to like it.

[graywarrior]

31. We all do the same thing

Yeah, being single is enviable.

[Jenoch]

30. A guy in my neighborhood

(he was much older than me) was friends with Mark David Chapman back in the 70s. They both worked for the national office of YMCA.

[closeupready]

32. Of course, Ann Rule got her start because she worked with Ted Bundy.

And he didn't seem weird to her. I think that was her first book, don't recall the title at the moment.

I won't say most, but I recall from college studying psychological illness that many career criminals are interpersonally charming and attractive. It's part of what creates the opportunities they need in order to exploit people/situations, so as to satiate the demands of their psychopathologies.

Glad you dodged that bullet!

[Zorra]

33. The sister of a woman that lived in my home

for 2 years is doing life plus without parole for murder. I knew her when she was a young girl and early teen, and was friends with her mom as well.

It broke my heart to find out that the sweet, rosy cheeked innocent kid I knew had become a stone cold killer.

Meth can do that to a person.

[raccoon]

34. It would be easier if such people looked like this....then we'd know what they were.

[Liberal_in_LA]

35. whoa!

[angstlessk]

36. One of my son's best friends was executed in VA for murder

Russell William Burket

He would spend hours at our house..and was such a gentle giant...we could not believe he would do such a thing...

He was a slow learner and both my son and I thought his brother did the deed and he took the blame..but we will never really know.