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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:26 AM Aug 2013

The Danger of Clinton Fatigue

Of course if I was a betting woman, I'd be comfortable betting a lot that Clinton will be the nominee, but you never know what will happen....



For Hillary Clinton, the problem with Anthony Weiner’s candidacy is supposed to be that it conjures memories of her own marital troubles. It's not good to have an ongoing public discussion of the parallels between Weiner’s wife and former Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin (who is standing by her man) and Clinton (who did a version of the same). But didn't voters reconcile themselves Clinton's personal past long ago? Plus, as the Weiner three-ring circus adds more rings and more freak show characters by the hour—the whirling communications director of expletives, the pouty former intern, and the dishy phone paramour (phonamour?)—Weiner's behavior and the mushrooming calamity of his public life surpasses anything Bill Clinton could conjure up.

But, for Hillary Clinton, the problem with the Weiner fiasco may not be the memories but the mishigas. Though she and her husband have nothing to do with this campaign, the episode does bring to mind a familiar feeling about the Clinton enterprise—that it was always surrounded by some kind of drama. "That's what we were talking about with No Drama Obama," says a veteran of Obama's 2008 campaign reflecting on the Weiner episode. "That's how we ran against her."

Anthony Weiner will almost certainly be long gone, forgotten, or irrelevant when and if Hillary Clinton runs for president. But even if the Weiner problem doesn’t’ linger, the episode highlights two challenges that Hillary Clinton 2016 will face. The first is how she will dispel the drama question that attends her family name and present herself afresh, and the second is whether the drama f the kind kicked up by Weiner gives her pause about running again.

The issue lurking behind Clinton drama is really one of Clinton fatigue. Presidential campaigns, like Christmas, seem to come earlier every year. With Hillary Clinton as a possible candidate, this has exacerbated the trend. She is a popular subject and she would be the most viable female candidate ever. So CNN just announced that it has contracted a documentary of her life. NBC has a miniseries in the works. Both ventures are literally banking that Clinton will run for president. Sure, it's 90 degrees outside, but might as well put up the lights. The problem with this trend is that by the time a candidacy actually rolls around, everyone will be thoroughly sick of the enterprise. The tree will be a collection of needles at the base of some scrawny branches.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/07/hillary_clinton_fatigue_will_the_constant_drama_around_the_former_secretary.html

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. I think that the whole "fatigue" nonsense is why she's limiting her public appearances.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:28 AM
Aug 2013

I think she'll have no problem firing it up if she decides to run.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
2. Who outside of NYC and DC (because they do that)
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:22 AM
Aug 2013

Are even talking about Weiner's wife? There is no Clinton fatigue anywhere except, of course, among those that don't want to see her as prez. Including both the on left and the right. That's about all I can see.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. a lot of people. It was megaphoned out by the media in a big way
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:25 AM
Aug 2013

And I don't know if there's Clinton fatigue but I suspect there is- in the same way that there's bush fatigue.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
5. I'm starting to think the people that make the difference
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:58 AM
Aug 2013

The people in the middle, don't listen to that megaphone much anymore. It's becoming so much white noise.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. Well, if people on the left and the right 'don't want her to be president' maybe people should
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 10:06 AM
Aug 2013

listen and allow a people's choice for the WH to have a chance. But we know that won't happen. A billion or more will be spent on the candidate, looks like some of it is already being spent, and only a select few will even get close to that race.

Why, eg, all this talk about an election that is three years away?

And why is it 'all about Hillary'?

Has she ever admitted how wrong she was about the Iraq War? Rather than FIGHT back then, she either caved or actually supported that tragic war. Either way that alone makes her a very choice for the WH.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. Correct ...
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:41 AM
Aug 2013

The right knows they can't beat her in a General Election, and some on the left understand that she's unlikely to take a 2nd primary for granted and lose to some one that no one has heard of. They don't want her, but they know it will be nearly impossible to beat her.



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