These "knives" are the rage in right-wing circles. How long until terrorists get the word...?

[swayne]

These knives make it onto planes in this country EVERYDAY undetected. Seems like a problem...


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[xoom]

1. How do they make it on planes with surgical steel blades??

[Pelican]

2. The two statements are in conflict...

a) These knives are on planes everyday without incident and thus there is no problem

or

b) These knives aren't on planes every day but if there was there would be a problem.

Or are you just concerned that someone has something pointy in your vicinity?

[swayne]

13. Yours is an argument from fallacy. The knives present a potential problem.

[Lee-Lee]

23. Exactly what problem does it pose?

They have steel blades, so they will set off the metal detector if carried on the person. And likewise they are very visible on the X-ray scanners your bags pass through.

So what, exactly, is this potential problem?

[swayne]

24. The problem is that THEY DO GET THROUGH AND THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO.

Perhaps they can't get into the cockpit, I don't know. I would say that crew and passengers could be affected negatively before a plane lands.

I'll leave it to you to figure out how.

[Lee-Lee]

27. Exactly how do they get through?

And do you have any sort of reference to show that these make it through in any greater numbers than other knives with blades the same size? Or is this jut your assertion?

As I said before- it is steel. If any are making it onto planes it is 100% due to TSA ineptitude. A steel blade is a steel blade.

[Jenoch]

28. What evidence do you have that

these knives are getting through airport security and into the cabins of airliners?

[actslikeacarrot]

3. i own both...

...I received both as a gift a few months back. I don't carry the knife, but the multi tool is very handy to have around. Especially the bottle opener and very recently I traveled on an airplane, and I put the multi tool in my checked baggage, to avoid any hassles. I love gadgets like this, as it let's me have a tool I might need in my wallet. Oh, how I wish it was socially acceptable for a man to carry a purse!

[Warpy]

31. You'd get sick of it pretty quickly

and start agitating for pants with bigger pockets.

I hate having to carry a bag to hold my cards, keys and checkbooks (about all I carry). I'd much rather have designers stop whining about how pockets ruin the "line" of their clothing and just put the damned things in, already.

I don't care if they'd make my ass look wider. I lost that battle a long time ago.

[actslikeacarrot]

32. Huh, Good points....

....I guess the grass isn't always greener. And I have long thought that pockets on women's pants were useless, as nothing could fit inside of them.

[stevenleser]

4. Not as big of a problem anymore with the cockpit doors being closed and locked and policy

being that if there is a terrorist takeover in the main cabin with knives, the pilots do not open the door to save crew or passengers.

Still of some concern, I agree.

[NightWatcher]

5. They've been selling shitty junk online and in comics for decades

This is not some dangerous weapon, but more like flea market junk. I think we'll be ok.

[KansDem]

10. Remember the "X-Ray Glasses?"

They've been selling shitty junk ... in comics for decades

[pinboy3niner]

15. You're still mad about those sea monkeys you ordered from a comic book, aren't you? :)

Somebody else also learned his lesson the hard way after sending away for his secret decoder ring...

[KansDem]

25. I remember that!

But my favorite was the "Throw Your Voice" ventriloquist device:



I actually got one!

It was a small metal device, about the size of a .22 caliber shell, with two small metal reeds. You held it against the roof of your mouth with your tongue while you "talked." It sounded more like a little squeaky voice--what a cartoon Martian might sound like--than actually throwing your voice.

Can't imagine that device today, though: giving a small metallic object to children to hold in their mouth while speaking?

[razorman]

22. There is nothing new about these tools. I had a credit card tool

much like this one, twenty years ago.

[snooper2]

6. I'm more worried about people who don't shower everyday

after reading that other thread

[xoom]

8. Haha, I agree!! Good thing you can't small over the internet!

[Eleanors38]

14. Or the dude who looses a Rankenstein in the middle seat.

[Xithras]

7. I carried something similar to the multitool card for years.

It was useful on a halfway regular basis. I lost it (along with the rest if my wallet) on a jog years ago, and hadn't found anywhere selling another one. The fact that it's free is awesome, but I really don't want to give my info to the NRA (and the site looks a little sketchy anyway), so I'm a bit torn right now...


And yes, I even carried it on a plane.

[ceonupe]

9. Bensoutlet

Bensoutlet dot com

Usually has them in 2 packs for about $5 or so

[Buns_of_Fire]

21. Amazon also has a bunch of 'em (unless Amazon is on your short list).

Search for "multitool card".

[Arkansas Granny]

11. They say the blade is under 3". Is that the key to taking it on a plane?

[Jenoch]

16. The TSA pulled the

proposal to allow small folding knives in airplane cabins.

[Scootaloo]

12. If you can hold a plane hostage with this bullshit...

It's not that you're scary, it's that nobody on the plane cares.

In which case, thank you for flying with Southwest, please don't block the restrooms, sir.

[MicaelS]

17. WTF do you think is going to happen if passengers

See some nutjob pull out a knife after 9/11? Do you think they're going to do exactly what the knife wielder tells them to do? Or are they going to rush said nutjob?

[sufrommich]

18. So much this. I can't imagine anyone wielding a knife

on a plane will accomplish anything other than getting pounded by a group of angry passengers ever again.

[Demo_Chris]

19. I, for one, am terrified by one inch long knives, nail clippers, and oversized straws...

Or maybe, and this is just a thought, but maybe we could stop acting like a bunch of fucking cowards.

[Lee-Lee]

20. This knife has a steel blade

So if it makes it onto a plane it will be 100% due to TSA ineptitude.

But FWIW, there have been plastic "knives" on the market for about 3 decades now. Won't really cut or slice, but they can stab about a well as you can with a long metal ink pen. But even those show up on the scanners.

[Posteritatis]

26. Panic! Panic! Panic! Panic! Panic! (nt)

[zappaman]

29. You just told them!!!

Terrorist Abetter...

[LongTomH]

30. Surgical steel, should set off metal detectors. I'm more worried about ceramic knives!

Ceramic blades are being used for kitchen knives and knives for other uses. Do a Google search for "ceramic tactical knives" or "ceramic combat knives!" Some of these are small enough to be easily concealed.