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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:12 PM Aug 2013

Way worse than NSA fears 1: Five Egregious Ways Police Are Seizing Property From Those Never Accuse

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/08/05/2411801/five-egregious-ways-police-are-seizing-property-from-those-never-accused-of-a-crime/

As law enforcement officers continue to ramp up use of a controversial practice known as civil forfeiture, police are seizing cash, cars, houses, and other assets in the name of drug enforcement without ever having arrested or charged their owners with a crime. Funds collected from these seizures frequently go directly back into law enforcement, creating a dangerous profit incentive for police and other law enforcers. Both the New Yorker and ProPublica have new investigations of this practice, in which officers seize property they believe is connected to drug or other illicit activity, with a much lower burden of proof than when charges are filed against a person. Below are five of the most egregious incidents to emerge from these reports.
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Way worse than NSA fears 1: Five Egregious Ways Police Are Seizing Property From Those Never Accuse (Original Post) uhnope Aug 2013 OP
can we seize police stations where on duty police violate the law then? nt msongs Aug 2013 #1
In Oregon voters passed an initiative that gave any proceeds of forfeiture to rehab programs. Shrike47 Aug 2013 #2
thx for the good news uhnope Aug 2013 #5
Saginaw Piggy's show off a car they stole: Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #3
As stated in previous Old Codger Aug 2013 #4
How did Oregon stop it GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #6
It was a measure on our ballot Old Codger Aug 2013 #7
Nice. GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #8
I don't know Old Codger Aug 2013 #9
That's just theft GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #10
Exactly Old Codger Aug 2013 #11
People will vote against getting ripped off GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #12
Thankfully Old Codger Aug 2013 #13
Yes that's terrible but Russia is worse! AppleBottom Aug 2013 #14
funny. nt uhnope Aug 2013 #15

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
2. In Oregon voters passed an initiative that gave any proceeds of forfeiture to rehab programs.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:47 PM
Aug 2013

LOTS of people thought we ought to take the incentive to lie out of it.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
4. As stated in previous
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 10:39 PM
Aug 2013

Oregon pretty much stopped that from happening. One of the favorite tricks they use is to arrest someone seize the property then drop the charges, in order to get things returned you had to sue and more or less prove you were not guilty, in a lot of cases they had already sold the property .. Was pretty much a steal for the police...

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
7. It was a measure on our ballot
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:38 PM
Aug 2013

We voted it out


In November 2000, Oregon nearly nipped this problem in the bud by passing Ballot Measure 3, The Property Protection Act, with a 67% majority. As soon as it passed however, one of our state’s biggest stakeholders in the use of CAF, Lincoln County, filed suit. The Oregon Supreme Court upheld the law in October 2006 by overturning an Appeals Court decision in Lincoln Interagency Narcotics Team v. Kitzhaber.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
9. I don't know
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:15 PM
Aug 2013

What would happen there but they were seriously abusing the law by taking assets and then dropping charges after the assets had been sold forcing people to sue. When it would go to court the accused people pretty much had to prove innocence without having been given a chance to defend themselves in a court of law...bad deal all around ..

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