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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:41 AM Aug 2013

Rep. Steve King Doesn't Know How Sea Level Works

Last edited Thu Aug 8, 2013, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/08/rep-steve-king-doesnt-know-how-sea-level-works

On Wednesday, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), last seen evaluating the leg muscles of undocumented immigrants, told a town hall audience in Iowa that we have nothing to fear from climate change—we probably won't even notice it. Per the Fort Dodge Messenger:

"Everything that might result from a warmer planet is always bad in (environmentalists') analysis," he said. "There will be more photosynthesis going on if the Earth gets warmer. ... And if sea levels go up 4 or 6 inches, I don't know if we'd know that."

He said sea level is not a precise measurement.

"We don't know where sea level is even, let alone be able to say that it's going to come up an inch globally because some polar ice caps might melt because there's CO2 suspended in the atmosphere," he said.

(end snip)

:facepalm

Get the clown car ready, this one's running for pretzeldente.
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CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. Well, you'd probably notice if you live in a beach house or a port or a coastal city
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:49 AM
Aug 2013

or, you know, on land near the sea.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Aww..c'mon guys....he is making perfect sense.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:50 AM
Aug 2013

Since his head is stuck up his ass, he wouldn't know......well, practically anything.
As he clearly demonstrates.

live love laugh

(13,104 posts)
7. After re-watching Idiocracy, my pat answer to this kind of drivel: "It's got electrolytes."
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:53 AM
Aug 2013

There, that explains everything.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
8. Actually, the title should read
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:54 AM
Aug 2013

"Rep. Steve King doesn't know how __________ (fill in the blank until your hand gets tired) works."

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
9. He is from Iowa
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:58 AM
Aug 2013


FIRST - let me say that I grew up in Iowa and I know how sea levels work.

But this asshole, probably never bothered to learn about sea levels because he is "from Iowa" and didn't think that it would be necessary as part of his life. You don't see much of the sea in Iowa. The farm reports don't talk about it much either.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
12. Longtime resident of Iowa
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:04 AM
Aug 2013

who married an Iowa girl. I agree with you totally. It is a true embarrassment to the state, but it will be fun watching him run for President (gotta replace Bachmann). That means he won't compete for Harkin's Senate seat.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
11. Not to defend a Republican, but ......
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:01 AM
Aug 2013

... sea level is a pretty tricky thing to define and measure.

Many years ago (crap, it's decades now) I worked on the development of the GPS system. While the constellation itself lives in an Earth Centered Earth Fixed coordinate system (which itself is pretty tricky - where exactly is the center of the earth? Or more correctly the center of Earth's mass? But I digress.) most people on earth want to know where they are in relation to the ground. We usually reference the ground level to Mean Sea Level. Which is what? It turns out that the sea is not level. besides tides and waves and things we see, the earth's gravity field is not spherical. It is "lumpy" and thus there are hills and valleys in the ocean's surface all over the globe. It makes determination of what, exactly, is "sea level" problematic. An issue I grappled with constantly when trying to develop algorithms for certain systems.

Some may find these interesting:

Wiki - Height above sea level

Wiki - Sea Level

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
13. I live by the sea and I get tide books every year that tells me EXACTLY what the sea level
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:08 AM
Aug 2013

will be at any given time throughout the day and throughout the year. As a property owner that has land on the shore I know exactly how far my property extends onto the beach and where public access takes over. It is called mean high tide or where I live 16 foot level...

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
17. That is true, relative to your property, which is what ...
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:35 AM
Aug 2013

.... most people worry about. It's a little different when you are trying to design and test precision global guidance systems.

But I know what you mean. In 1972-73 I had a beach house in Haleiwa, on the North Shore of Oahu. I was VERY conscious of where the water was, literally 10-20 feet from my front porch. During the high surf in the winter of '73 it was closer than my front porch, in my living room, and we had to evacuate inland. Living close to the ocean concentrates your attention to such things.

But globally, things are a little more fuzzy.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
19. And actually, the tide book DOESN'T tell you exactly what .....
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 02:28 PM
Aug 2013

... the SEA LEVEL will be at any given time. It tells you what the variation (or delta) will be from a reference point, usually the Mean Sea Level at your location. It sounds like kinda the same thing, but it's not.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. When they waive it away like that
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:23 AM
Aug 2013

Yeah, global warming is happening, but it's a Good Thing, I have to shake my head.

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