Sign in if you are not distracted by the Snowden, Greenwald, Damon, Wyden Bashers!

[Vinnie From Indy]

I am quite bored by the relentless attempts to distract DU'ers from the revelations about the NSA by bashing, smearing and sliming the messengers. I am NOT DISTRACTED AT ALL!

Cheers!

[Oakenshield]

1. I'm not at all distracted.

I am however thoroughly disgusted by these poorly veiled attempts at stifling dissent. Clearly we have no small amount of authoritarians here on DU.

[arely staircase]

10. yes, disagreeing with you is stifling

is that why you came here? you thought it would be a kick-ass anti-Obama echo chamber where you wouldn't be stifled by people who disagree with you?

[Oakenshield]

16. To answer your question

I came here to find comradery among fellow liberals. Liberals who maintain their principals even if their own representative does not. Liberals who don't maintain double standards. And to be sure I have found such a comradery on many occasions here. Unfortunately I have also found this website is filled with pseudo liberals who don't much care about our privacy or our liberty as long as it is a democratic administration who is abusing that privacy/liberty.

[arely staircase]

18. well sorry we let you down

I hope you find that place.

[Oakenshield]

19. That place is still here.

Genuine liberals outnumber the DINOS, despite the impression a person might get on how vocal the latter are. I appreciate the sentiment though.

[ProSense]

2. This is likely

"Sign in if you are not distracted by the Snowden, Greenwald, Damon, Wyden Bashers!"

...going to be another one of your "proud" moments: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023087676

[PowerToThePeople]

3. I just trash-canned all those threads today.

DU looks like a whole different place than the last week. My mood is improving. I am feeling better about things. Amazing how a few posters can make it so awful. But, I was taking the bait. Not any more, straight to the trash can with those posts.

[sabrina 1]

4. Their list keeps growing. Russia, Damon, Wyden, added to the latest list. Do they really

think this is going to change anyone's mind?

How about they just defend THEIR position, who knows, maybe that might change a few minds, but to see the desperation of these ever growing smear campaigns against ANYONE who dares to express an opinion they don't want to have out there, is almost comical at this point.

[G_j]

71. Anyone, certainly includes

'fellow DUers'. When W was pres. Rush and the like would constantly call us haters to dismiss your criticism. They didnt post at DU of course, so being called a "hater" right here is somewhat of a novelty. These folks seem to be clueless of liberal values.

[sabrina 1]

5. Oh yes, to answer your question, no, I am not distracted at all. This is too big an issue

for these childish temper tantrums to have any negative effective on.

[The Magistrate]

6. Not Distracted At All, Sir

I remain a firm supporter of President Obama, and opponent of attempts to damage his administration and the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

[Egnever]

7. As am I

[Andy823]

11. Actually I kind of like the Obama supporters

I wouldn't call them "bashers", simply people who actually use facts to prove their points and post links to back those facts. I have no problem with anyone that can show me the facts and not just post crap over and over and never back up what they are claiming.

[arely staircase]

8. so not distracted you are starting a thread about it

I bet you don't even see the irony.

[babylonsister]

27. No kidding! Worth a kick!

[KoKo]

9. I Agree with Poster #17... I have the "McCarthy Bots" on Ignore...n/t

[truebluegreen]

14. Then delete.

[silvershadow]

12. Not distracted. Now considering my options for running in my district. nt

[1-Old-Man]

13. I despise those apologist bastards, no, they do not distract me.

[ProSense]

15. .

[Logical]

23. Snowden forces Obama to face the music on the NSA spying.....

Obama announces proposals to reform NSA surveillance

[link:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/09/obama-nsa-surveillance-reforms-press-conferenceObama touts NSA surveillance reforms to quell growing unease over programs]

Obama Touts NSA Reforms: 'America Is Not Interested in Spying on Ordinary People'

THE N.S.A.’S DIRTY DISHES: OBAMA’S PRESS CONFERENCE

Apple, Google and AT&T meet Obama to discuss NSA surveillance concerns

Obama sets plans to improve privacy in NSA surveillance

Obama's NSA Conference Could Be Subtitled 'The Guardian Gets Results'

Obama Promises Reform of NSA Spying, But the Devil Will Be in the Details

Former deputy chief of staff for Ron Wyden on the ways Obama didn't "welcome debate" on surveillance

[backscatter712]

17. I put the McCarthy-bots on ignore.

DU is much more pleasant that way.

[arely staircase]

34. so they can see you but you can't see them

bwahahahahahah!

[Mojorabbit]

44. I do it ever so often. I just recently took them off ignore and am engaging for a bit.

It really is a much better board without them. They add nothing to the discussion. In fact they hinder any discussion of the issues at hand.

[arely staircase]

47. i have never put anyone on ignore nt

[Mojorabbit]

48. It's good for the blood pressure at times. It is nice to converse

with Dems who hold the same values I do without distractions.

[JaneyVee]

20. Distraction, as opposed to relentless postings of the same NSA articles

Over and ver and over again? Please, this place needs a distraction from the monotony of the echo chamber.

[Mojorabbit]

49. Put them on ignore. Easy Peasy. nt

[Octafish]

21. I'm proud of DUers who got on Bush AND Obama over UNCONSTITUTIONAL NSA spying.

Sibel Edmonds will run ads naming NAMES if Congress doesn't act
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3561783&mesg_id=3561783

LBN: National Security Whistleblowers Coalition:Congress, Whistleblower Protect
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1431213&mesg_id=1431213

Cunningham Bribery - Foggo (CIA)-MZM Cases Linked to Saudi Slush Fund Scandal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1529067

National Security Whistleblowers Coalition:Congress, Whistleblower Protect
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1431213

Those who work to distract, derail,and denigrate those who want the truth to be told are as un-democratic as Karl Rove.

[KoKo]

26. There are some DU'ers who have understood the NSA Ramifications...and put that above

their political loyalties.. And, to see them speak out recently showed the character of those who took that step.

It was never about trashing POB...it was about trying to make him honor his promises and in the first 6 months after Re-election to his Second Term..it's more important than ever to steer him back to the principles we thought he ran on. Whether (as some say) we didn't realize what we were voting for...I take exception to that. We were not naive. We were pragmatic in that we had no other choice and felt he was the best. But, he did make promises beyond what some tell us were &quot You Should have Known he was a Reagan Republican&quot and that we expected something he never offered. He did offer enough , however, which he hasn't honored.

So...there's differences there. But Democratic Core Values are what I'm seeing folks returning to here. And that's what we could hope for going forward.. imho.

[Vinnie From Indy]

32. +1

i agree with much of what you wrote.

Cheers!

[sabrina 1]

77. I am proud of them too and am happy to see that despite everything, they are still very much in the

majority.

The rest is just noise, same old stuff we got used to during the Bush years.

[Logical]

22. They are desperate. n-t

[arely staircase]

37. desperate?

we are computer generated personas. we feel no human emotion.

[whatchamacallit]

24. It's idiotic. Every day, all day, spamming the shit out of this place with garbage

Truly the lamest time in the history of DU.

[Corruption Inc]

62. Correct.

The same propagandists insult the hell out of people too and the "juries" let it stand.

[Douglas Carpenter]

25. and now Matt Damon.. frankly their robotics are hilarious

[liberal N proud]

28. Distracted by their supporters!

[Pholus]

29. Right with you on this... they ARE getting desperate at least.

Just got told that this was ALL debated openly in Congress and THE TRANSCRIPTS ARE ALL THERE so it's our fault for not being mad about this a year ago.

Followed by a bunch of irrelevant links to any intelligence discussions in congress, of which five led to Wyden trying to warn people and DiFi putting him down.

[idwiyo]

33. Were those Linckosauros-Blue links or some other variery? :)

[Pholus]

35. Well, the room did turn a nice shade of blue when the post came up but...

it was a lazy (and botched) cut and paste lifted entirely from the Federation of American Scientists section on intelligence activities in congress.

And used out of context, the volume supposedly illustrating that this was all discussed and we were idiots for not noticing it.

[idwiyo]

40. Oh my... They are not even trying to be taken seriously anymore, just fill the space with spam and

hope everyone is too stupid to notice.

[Pholus]

43. That does seem to be the plan... nt

[idwiyo]

30. They provide a good enterntainment :)

[Cryptoad]

31. WE Have ,,,,

far greater common enemies than your so called "bashers"

that present threats far more dangerous to our Freedoms and Liberty !

I feel more and more the Far Right is playing the Left on this one.

[AverageJoe90]

53. Sad but true.

The .1% REALLY didn't like the fact that Obama won last year.....and they've been going into overdrive with the craziness ever since; sadly, I fear Snowden may very well have been one of their useful idiots.....

[JackRiddler]

36. Not distracted, but appalled at the shamelessness.

[yourout]

38. Who's Snowden? my biggest concern it the 1% controlling the dialog while robbing everyone else.

[another_liberal]

39. Agreed.

Their efforts to influence the good people on these boards are generally so ineffectual as to be laughable. Even those who do employ a bit of subtlety in their anti-Democratic propaganda soon show themselves for what they are, and are treated accordingly.

[WillyT]

41. K & R !!! - Truth-Out !!!

[UTUSN]

42. So. I can't sign IN?!1 n/t

[AverageJoe90]

45. I don't see anyone bashing Wyden, TBH.....

Wyden, at least, seems to be quite genuine. Snowden, OTOH.....not so much, if he ever was(which I seriously doubt).

[rug]

46. I'm just waiting for the latest bombshell about Kim Kardashian.

[Scuba]

50. Ad hominem attacks can be quickly dismissed. Attack issues, not people!!!!!

[Isoldeblue]

51. Signing in..........

I would think that cynics are a miserable lot.

[bowens43]

52. the posts from the apologists are getting more and more ridiculous everyday. desperation

[CakeGrrl]

63. Desperation over what?

What are the "apologists" desperate over? What is going to happen that you think "they" are afraid of?

[itsrobert]

54. What revelations? If you were paying attention

this has been known for a long time without exposing our contacts in international operations.

[MotherPetrie]

55. K&R

[marble falls]

56. As much as I am by the defenders, actually. Its Prism that should have people worked up.

[Th1onein]

57. Signing in.

[Liberal_in_LA]

58. i'm not distracted by the oprah bashers either

[SidDithers]

59. Locking...

Meta.

Sid

[SidDithers]

60. Unlocked with a kick...nt

Sid

[Zorra]

61. I put most of them on ignore. I had never put anyone on ignore before, but

it became crystal clear through repeated offenses against my sense of logic, reason, fact, and progressive values that an identifiable group was either not above board, or so far to the right of me that they are just barely above republicans on the critical thinking ability scale.

[Catherina]

64. Signing in. Too much to do in too little time to waste even a minute on that

This is one of those "which side are you on" things. Not on the same side? Talk to the hand. Bye.

[Enthusiast]

65. Kicked and Recommended! nt

[Arctic Dave]

66. K&R

Suck it haters!!

[xiamiam]

67. to be truthful about it..im more irritated than bored because of their stubborn refusal

to accept participation in the dialogue that needs to occur. It just makes the DU site less relevant so I find myself searching other places for info...and not participating here as much. it's boring to see the same posters over and over with the same message here while the rest of the world gets it . .other than those with something to hide within our govt. I'm more interested in the solutions rather than the gossipers and Obama walks on water crowd. He doesn't. ..we Americans have a big problem to deal with and how we do it is important NOW.. I'm interested in the duers who care enough to present solutions and actions we can support and people to learn from, etc, etc.. I've got a lot on ignore but I usually don't log in from my laptop so I see the nonsense and it always makes my blood boil and like I am wasting my time.

[backscatter712]

68. K&R! I see right through the fascist scumfucks. n/t

[MelungeonWoman]

69. K&R!

I've always been perplexed by a small group that didn't seem very interested in Democratic values, I found out this morning that one of them was a longtime former freeper. I couldn't care less about the opinions of former freepers and those that associate themselves with their comments. As Catherina says, talk to the hand.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

70. There are way too many meta-threads.

And too many of those threads are started with original posts that are angry about some trend or thread and are written from the point of view that everyone reads everything on DU and would instantly know what thread they are talking about.

:RollEyes:

[stupidicus]

72. I think they should be encouraged

in their crowing about them, because it will mean that much more crow for them to choke on in the aftermath of all of this.

Given that some revisions to this and that will almost certainly occur, there will be no hiding how silly and stupid they've been in those kinda efforts.

[Demo_Chris]

73. K and R

[Rain Mcloud]

74. DU Rec

I am not usually distracted by smoke and mirror tactics

[ohheckyeah]

75. Not distracted.....

my ignore list has gotten very long.

[DCBob]

76. Im sigining in to inform you Im not distracted by the Snowden, Greenwald, Damon, Wyden worshipers!

[bravenak]

78. I am always focused.

On making fun of Snowden cause he's a joke.

[liberal_at_heart]

79. not the least bit distracted.