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Women suicide bombers hide explosives in their BREAST IMPLANTS as terror experts fear al-Qaida will target flights out of Heathrow
Heathrow Airport is on high terror alert amid fears female terrorists might use breast implants as bombs, it emerged today.
Experts believe there is a 'credible' threat that al-Qaida could target flights out of London using explosives hidden in the chests of its operatives.
Specialists believe women could have had breast surgery with implants which, if injected with another liquid, will cause a large enough explosion to take down a plane.
Sources have said that security at Heathrow is taking longer as they check busts.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395532/Al-Qaida-Heathrow-terror-experts-fear-women-suicide-bombers-hide-explosives-BREAST-IMPLANTS.html#ixzz2c8OQ0fvH
I would assume this is the subject of use of non detectable body materials to be combined as an explosive as mentioned a week or so back re. Al Qaeda in the Yemen.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Just like shoe bombs and underpants etc.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)There are certain people out there would would pay a fortune for that surgery...How would I ever compete in pulling women from the club when some other dude's pickup line has the phrase "explosive peener?"
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)a strapadictome ?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)okieinpain
(9,397 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Inside a Saudi palace, the scene was the bloody aftermath of an al Qaeda attack in August aimed at killing Prince Mohammed Bin Nayef, head of Saudi Arabia's counter terrorism operations.
To get his bomb into this room, Abdullah Asieri, one of Saudi Arabia's most wanted men, avoided detection by two sets of airport security including metal detectors and palace security. He spent 30 hours in the close company of the prince's own secret service agents - all without anyone suspecting a thing.
How did he do it?
Taking a trick from the narcotics trade - which has long smuggled drugs in body cavities - Asieri had a pound of high explosives, plus a detonator inserted in his rectum.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-5347847.html
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)RedstDem
(1,239 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Just one more example of humanity squandering a priceless, God-given natural resource
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Bucky
(54,013 posts)Elephants have breasts. But they don't fit on airplanes!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I would assume it's the Daily Mail being the Daily Mail.
If this is more than just that rag plugging breasts and terrorism together (and certainly not for the first time) than I just have to roll my eyes. 'Cause somewhere this morning is a table of "experts" who are laughing their asses off.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)You know, when it was announced that al-Qaeda bio-terrorists had finally perfected their drug that, when dumped into a city's water supply, would infect all who drank the water with a malady that would cause one's ass to literally fall off whenever they laughed.
Much hilarity ensued. But not for long.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I was laughing at the explosive T-shirt story at the time, I think.
petronius
(26,602 posts)paying off. But either way, my pants fit better...
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Do people even look at the sources they are using?
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)If you read it you'd know the Mail wasn't the source. Notwithstanding that its an unlikely fabrication of news.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And they do fabricate news all the time.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)The Mail got it from The Mirror. The Mirror doubtless got it from elsewhere aside from a Heathrow contract - was also news in the US 15 months ago.
And no the Mail doesn't fabricate news all of the time. As an example http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2394593/Obama-cancels-joint-U-S-Egypt-military-exercises-response-widespread-violence-doesnt-address-billions-American-aid-dollars-slated-Cairo.html are you saying Obama didn't make a speech yesterday ?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I guess I shouldn't say they fabricate stories, but they do take non-stories and try to turn them into something bigger than they are, a la Fox.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)That's namely the reasons people buy newspapers. They don't need them for news - they buy them for articles and advertising. That in effect is why the Mail's sales are nine times higher than the Guardian's for example. I don't believe they lie though.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Over here, people don't even buy newspapers at all it seems!
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)The figures for the Independent and the i need to be added together - same stuff just different marketing approach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_circulation
Times runs at a loss subsidised by the Sun. Guardian runs at a loss subsidised by Auto Trader magazine which is owned the same trust which owns the Guardian. I'm not sure of profitability or otherwise of other papers. The London Evening Standard, the Independent and the i are owned by a Russian oligarch.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)process without them exploding. B. How would they be implanted without them exploding. C. If you can make it through A. and B. without them exploding, how in the hell do you set them off reliably when it's time?
This has to be the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Two chemicals, neither of which are explosive or dangerous, become that way when mixed.
One chemical in the fake implants- no explosion hazard. The second chemical disguised as insulin.
Simply inject the second chemical in once airborne.
I would be more likely to suspect they use obese males than females, however. You could fit a lot more in a beer belly.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)...if we are at the point where we are afraid of people injecting themselves with chemicals into their body parts to make explosions, we may as well stop flying altogether. Police states LOVE it when the populous is no longer mobile. It makes keeping track of them so much easier.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)There has been concern for some time about implantable bombs; we know that the chief bombmaker for AQAP, Ibrahim al-Asiri, was working on just that. They put the bomb inside the suicide bomber, the bomber goes immediately to the target and blows themselves up. I'm not sure about using breasts, there are much better larger cavities to use for something like this such as the abdominal and rectal cavities. If you have a surgeon doing the implantation, there's enough space in the chest cavity to implant something without cracking the sternum.
There is no recovery or need for recovery for a minor implantation surgery, they cut a pouch and jam it in and sew it up: nobody cares about post-op care, whether there's scarring or more-than-moderate bleeding, nothing is being removed which would require a lengthy recovery, there is no infection concern...the bomber has a life expectancy post surgery of a few hours before they . If you can walk and you can pass for healthy, you're good to go.
While this is far-fetched, it's no more far-fetched than al-Asiri's previous ideas: underwear bombing, the bombing of the office of Mohammed bin-Nayef through the use of a bomb inside the rectum of a suicide bomber (his brother Abdullah al-Asiri who spent 13 hours in the presence of the Saudi security chief waiting the right moment), planned simultaneous detonations of cargo planes over US cities (that failed spectacularly. Of the 3 planes, two of the bombs were discovered and the third failed to detonate and filled the hold with smoke, that one managed to kill two people on UPS Flight 6 only because the pilots were overcome with smoke and crashed the plane.), rigging IEDs into the bodies of dead civilians and remotely detonating them in the presence of emergency responders or military personnel. He's an imaginative little monstrous shit.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)BOOM!
RC
(25,592 posts)If they are a part of the TSA or equivalent, the need to be fired. Baseless Paranoia anyone?
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)During the past year, United States and European authorities have warned that the master bomb maker for al Qaeda's affiliate in Yemen, Ibrahim al Asiri, has been designing body bombs with no metal parts to get past airport security.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2012/May/Tightened-Security-Marks-Bin-Laden-Death-Anniversary/
Aerows
(39,961 posts)to get a needle with the ability to puncture a breast implant through metal detectors, and nobody on the plane would notice a woman poking a syringe into her breasts. Never mind how the recovery process of getting the implants in the first place would work out.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Lots of diabetics fly every day carrying needles an insulin. There are known chemicals that when mixed explode, it would be a simple matter to put the second componet in an insulin vial.
RC
(25,592 posts)When are we going to give up and ground all the planes? The terrorists have clearly won.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)This much paranoia this many years later proves the terrorists have won. They wanted to "take away our freedoms." Well, due to the extreme paranoia of those in charge of our countries, that HAVE taken away our freedoms.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,316 posts)FEMALE suicide bombers are being fitted with exploding breast implants which are almost impossible to detect, British spies have reportedly discovered.
The shocking new al-Qaeda tactic involves radical doctors inserting the explosives in women s breasts during...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2903793/Radicals-deadly-booby-trap.html
No, I wasn't going to pay to read the rest of it on Murdoch's website, when he's got it on another for free, and we find out the source was "chatter".
"Women suicide bombers recruited by Al Qaeda are known to have had the explosives inserted in their breasts under techniques similar to breast enhancing surgery," Terrorist expert Joseph Farah claims.
...
He had stuffed explosives inside his underpants.
Hours after he had failed, Britain's intelligence services began to pick up "chatter" emanating from Pakistan and Yemen that alerted MI5 to the creation of the lethal implants.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/03/24/terrorists-use-explosives-breast-implants-crash-planes-experts-warn/
"Chatter" seems most likely to be "pure speculation on websites infested by trolls and wannabe al Qaeda members in their mothers' basements who make things up the whole time".
And "Terrorist expert Joseph Farah"? Conspiracy theorist and racist publisher of lunatic World Net Daily Joseph Farah.
I have my doubts this is any more credible now than it was 3 years ago.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)or a remote control plane, a chair with balloons tied to it, weather balloon, romote control boat, dolphin shaped sub, race horses return only to 2 major airports, bribed border guards, solid frozen containers of cheap slaughterhouse 'meat', another of the thousands of unregulated fertilizer plants, thousands of trains, thousands of miles of pipelines........ on and on and onnnnn goes the 'fear of attack'.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)is stab it with a syringe with the other component straight through clothing.
REP
(21,691 posts)I don't have breast implants - coals to Newcastle - but I have cysts that have been aspirated, and the needle used was rather impressive - far larger than the fine little needle used to inject insulin. An insulin needle would not be able to penetrate the skin, fat and implant. It's too fine and too short.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)I use to pump air into earthworms so's they float above the weeds when I'm fishing ?
REP
(21,691 posts)If you and your breast (or worm) implants are in the cabin, and large syringes are in checked baggage, well we'll all be fine
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... "Your breasts look a little suspicious, ma'am. Please remove all restrictive clothing and step over into this line so Jethro and DeWayne can check 'em out."
Myrina
(12,296 posts)See, the Teabagistani's are right wanting to keep us all barefoot, uneducated and pregnant, lest we go to fancy plastic surgeons and get killer boobies to wreak havoc on the world!!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Ian David
(69,059 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)didn't they? Or was it the staff at The Onion. I admit it. I am 100% surprised that this is not an Onion article. I honestly expected it to be from The Onion.
Al Qaeda wouldn't do this, I don't think. They would not allow women to get breast surgery because of their warped views of women/sex to begin with. Besides, I don't think Al Qaeda has sex. They are like the club of 10 year old little boys with the sign on the front that says "No Girls Allowed, Ewwww." I think they get off on mass murder, not sex. They are wired wrong or something.
This has to be the dreams of some pervy security expert somewhere who just wants himself and all his buddies to get to cop a free feel without the women being able to complain about it. I pity the poor women who will have to go through security after they craft some policy to "check" for booby bombs.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)And anyway, what if some lone crazies start surgically putting bombs on their insides? One can't imagine that that would become a some kind of trend.
National security peeps are going to have to learn more non-intrusive ways to do their jobs. Because obviously it isn't feasible that airline passengers have to get x-rayed, a colonoscopy, and stomach pump before boarding.
FSogol
(45,485 posts)While explosives seem farfetched, drugs have been smuggled in breast implants.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11031875
and of course was the subject of a Spanish telenovella: "Sin Pechos no Hay Parai$o!"
Translation: No breasts, No paradise
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Igel
(35,309 posts)First, wimmen can't be trained to be doctors. Allah would be violated--and wouldn't like it one bit--if that happened.
Second, since you'd need a male doctor he'd be required to see a woman's bare breasts. This would only be allowed if she were married to the guy. Even then, given the huge propensity for breasts and hair to emit radiation that forces men to violate them, every time the surgeon prepared his patient he'd be forced to have sex with her. Entirely against his will. The breasts made him do it.
Third, he'd need assistents. So even if he was the woman's husband, all the male assistents would also be compelled to have sex with her. The husband's honor wouldn't allow it, and the result would be a violated woman and either dead assistents or a dead doctor.
You might object that if they paid a non-Muslim to do the surgery it's possible. But since that would require a non-Muslim seeing Muslim breasts, they'd have to kill the doctor as soon as he was done. So maybe it would happen once, but then the word would get out.
(Then again, I rather think that if I were a woman around the AQ leaders I'd consider boobicide a completely acceptable option.)
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Initech
(100,075 posts)Hekate
(90,683 posts)Remember the "Black Widows" of Chechnya?
This article doesn't bring it up, but I remember reading that it was suspected that a number of them were being coerced by threats to their families.
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb/04/world/fg-blackwidows4
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)This was merely an excuse to feel women up at the various TSA checkpoints. "I'm sorry ma'am, but this is required by the FAA." As the perv runs his hands over the mammary flesh of the women in line.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They could take over the world.
FSogol
(45,485 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)The Austin Powers movie was not a documentary.
Jazzgirl
(3,744 posts)Oh yeah...... That's how! They seem to sit around and just make up reasons to feel women up. This is getting ridiculous.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Ugh