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Township75

(3,535 posts)
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:01 PM Aug 2013

Snowden is really up sh!t creek now without a paddle.

If Obama and Biden did this to Manning, who exposed mostly (maybe entirely??) stuff of the Bush administration, what do you think those 2 are going to do to Snowden who exposed what their administration is doing?!

I wouldn't want to be within 10 miles of Snowden when they get him. Sooner or later, the Obama administration is going to have something that Russia wants (state secrets, someone with diplomatic immunity in the US) and they are going to trade it for Snowden...and then they got his ass.

And if he thinks he can wait-out this administration, well, he should turn himself in before the Hillary administration gets hold of him....I bet that would be a lot worse for him!

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Snowden is really up sh!t creek now without a paddle. (Original Post) Township75 Aug 2013 OP
They wouldn't trade Snowden LearningCurve Aug 2013 #1
Im betting Obama and Biden want Snowden alive...afterall, they need to know what was taken/released Township75 Aug 2013 #2
Russia wouldn't lose face in a trade LearningCurve Aug 2013 #3
Wait a minute. You're saying they don't know what he took? leftstreet Aug 2013 #4
There is an article out there with a title that... Township75 Aug 2013 #6
nobody knows what he took but (obviously not everyone)everyone says he's a traitor leftyohiolib Aug 2013 #8
He's CLAIMING he took seriously damaging information. But no one knows if he's telling the truth. nt pnwmom Aug 2013 #20
You need a continuity tool. In your OP you said Snowden's leak was all about Obama and Biden Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #18
So you're saying his best course of action LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #5
I guess I did write that, and I should have written it differently, because the point I wanted to Township75 Aug 2013 #7
it depends on what he's got. if it's juicy enough it could be get out of jail free card leftyohiolib Aug 2013 #9
Maybe Township75 Aug 2013 #10
Snowden should avoid places that the Obama admin is not scared to send a drone. The Link Aug 2013 #11
Where would that be? Township75 Aug 2013 #13
I think they would hesitate in Russia, or China... The Link Aug 2013 #14
Is he? At least they're not reading his email anymore. nt TBF Aug 2013 #12
That's a simplistic analysis malaise Aug 2013 #15
Neither Obama or Biden did anything to Manning. That is an intellectually bankrupt notion. phleshdef Aug 2013 #16
(((((YAWN)))) LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #17
O yaas, any and all of those nefarious Dems are just repulsive!1 (Sarcasm) n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #19
Manning was convicted under the UCMJ DevonRex Aug 2013 #21

Township75

(3,535 posts)
2. Im betting Obama and Biden want Snowden alive...afterall, they need to know what was taken/released
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:06 PM
Aug 2013

and it would make for a better example if Snowden were in jail...maybe next to Manning.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
4. Wait a minute. You're saying they don't know what he took?
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:08 PM
Aug 2013

But in your OP you claim he stole damaging information

Township75

(3,535 posts)
6. There is an article out there with a title that...
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:11 PM
Aug 2013

the NSA is stretched thin trying to determine what Snowden took with him...that is why I wrote that they aren't sure what he took.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
20. He's CLAIMING he took seriously damaging information. But no one knows if he's telling the truth. nt
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:24 PM
Aug 2013
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. You need a continuity tool. In your OP you said Snowden's leak was all about Obama and Biden
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:10 PM
Aug 2013

but now you are saying they don't know what he has at all. The two things do not mesh.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
5. So you're saying his best course of action
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:09 PM
Aug 2013

is to return to the US so that he can be sentenced to something greater than 35 years in prison?

Township75

(3,535 posts)
7. I guess I did write that, and I should have written it differently, because the point I wanted to
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:13 PM
Aug 2013

convey was that any future administration is going after him....it may or may not be worse than this administration.

To be honest, I don't know what the best option is for him, because I really think he is up sh1t creek without a paddle now.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
9. it depends on what he's got. if it's juicy enough it could be get out of jail free card
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:44 PM
Aug 2013

leave me alone or these launch codes get in the paper. leave me alone or i'll release the names and locations of all your assets. if I disappear the means to hack your drones will be published. that kind of crap.

Township75

(3,535 posts)
10. Maybe
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:55 AM
Aug 2013

That could be a way out for him but I would have expected him to use that by now if it were an option. Who knows?

Township75

(3,535 posts)
13. Where would that be?
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:54 PM
Aug 2013

They seem to have no problem killing civilians in countries in which we haven't "invaded".

malaise

(268,998 posts)
15. That's a simplistic analysis
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:56 PM
Aug 2013

Snowden will end up dead. Dream on if you think the Russians will be blamed.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
16. Neither Obama or Biden did anything to Manning. That is an intellectually bankrupt notion.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:58 PM
Aug 2013

Manning was prosecuted by the military and he deserves prison time because he released documents that had nothing to do with wrong doing or illegal activity. I don't know why this is such a hard concept for some DUers to accept.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
21. Manning was convicted under the UCMJ
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:26 PM
Aug 2013

for crimes he committed, which he admits he committed, and for which he has apologized. With time served and good behavior he could be paroled in 7 years. That's also not up to Obama or Biden.

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