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babylonsister

(171,063 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:14 PM Aug 2013

DeMint touts emergency rooms over insurance

Posted with permission.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/22/20136858-demint-touts-emergency-rooms-over-insurance?lite

DeMint touts emergency rooms over insurance
By Steve Benen
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:21 AM EDT


Former Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), now the head of the Heritage Foundation, continues to help lead a far-right crusade against the Affordable Care Act for reasons that aren't altogether clear. Yesterday, DeMint brought his traveling circus to Tampa, where he made his pitch to a few hundred supporters (and more than a few opponents).

DeMint said opponents don't have much time to try to make changes to the law before a March 2014 deadline for people to enroll. Benefits will kick in Jan. 1 for those who enroll earlier.

"This might be that last off-ramp to stop Obamacare before it becomes more enmeshed in our culture," he said. "This is not about getting better health care."

DeMint said uninsured Americans "will get better health care just going to the emergency room."

Ah yes, the emergency-room argument. You don't need basic coverage for you and your family -- forget insurance and rely on the folks at your local E.R. This pops up from time to time -- Mitt Romney was using it less than a month before the 2012 election -- but in case anyone's forgotten, let's set the record straight again.

It's true that under the preferred Republican system -- the U.S. system before the Affordable Care Act became law -- if you were uninsured and get sick, you could probably find public hospitals that would provide treatment.

It is, however, extremely expensive to treat patients this way. It's far cheaper -- and more medically effective -- to pay for preventative care so that people don't have to wait for a medical emergency to seek treatment.

For that matter, when sick people with no insurance go to the E.R. for care, they often can't afford to pay their bills. Those costs are ultimately spread around to everyone else -- effectively creating the most inefficient system of socialized medicine ever devised.

Indeed, since hospitals can't treat sick patients for free, the bills can bankrupt those who get sick, and the costs are still passed on to everyone else.

But wait, there's more.

For those with chronic ailments, DeMint's position is laughable -- is anyone going to stop by the emergency room for chemotherapy or diabetes treatments?

The reality is plain for anyone who cares: Americans die because they lack basic coverage. The Republican plan to deal with this national scourge doesn't exist -- the plan is to destroy what took generations to approve, and then hope for the best.

Obamacare's critics are offering a cruel joke, and little else.
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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
1. except conservatives hate it when they see "those people" using emergency rooms
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:17 PM
Aug 2013

Conservatives just want "those people" to go home, suffer, get better, or die. Mostly, die.

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
2. Arkansas has a population of just over 2 million and the hospitals must
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:22 PM
Aug 2013

recoup $338 million a year for folks who can't pay. Guest who does pay? People with insurance!
This is above and beyond the Medicaid and Medicare expenses that taxpayers pay.

http://www.achi.net/HCR%20Docs/120905%20State%20All%20Co%20Fact%20Sheet%20FINAL.pdf

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
3. Not to mention, Emergency Rooms aren't equipped to provide primary and preventive care.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:28 PM
Aug 2013

They're there to treat you when you have blood spurting out of an artery, not to treat your little sniffle, or even to provide important primary care chronic disease management, like for diabetes.

These repuke fuckheads drive me crazy. It's ironic that even though they supposedly oppose taxes and socialized medicine, the "emergency room" dodge is poor quality, highly expensive socialized care that passes the uncompensated care along to the tax payers.

Now, the rich assholes of this country aren't going to pay those taxes, are they? It's the middle and working classes. And yet, middle and working class Americans line up behind the repukes anytime one of them says something like "Gay marritch is destroyin' are great Amurrican nation!"

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
4. At least the idiot is not in congress anymore doing damage there
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:35 PM
Aug 2013

I get his Heritage emails, he is an idiot for sure and the emails are all:

ALAAAAARRRMMM AAAAmerica is coming to and end.... Obama is destroying America!.... so send us money so we can stop this out of control President...

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
5. In my state if you do not pay your ER bill they sue you
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:59 PM
Aug 2013

and take your tax returns. That is if you go to the state hospital. If you go to the ones run by religious groups you have to pay 100 dollars before they will let you leave. Fuck this asswipe and his let them eat cake bullshit. They got theirs and to hell with the rest of us.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
6. OK, Democrats!
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:01 PM
Aug 2013

Get in that room and don't come out until you find a response to this nonsense. Make him look like the fool that he is.

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