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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:36 AM Aug 2013

Private lobbyists get public pensions in 20 states

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — As a lobbyist in New York's statehouse, Stephen Acquario is doing pretty well. He pulls down $204,000 a year, more than the governor makes, gets a Ford Explorer as his company car and is afforded another special perk:

Even though he's not a government employee, he is entitled to a full state pension.

He's among hundreds of lobbyists in at least 20 states who get public pensions because they represent associations of counties, cities and school boards, an Associated Press review found. Legislatures granted them access decades ago on the premise that they serve governments and the public. In many cases, such access also includes state health care benefits.

But several states have started to question whether these organizations should qualify for such benefits, since they are private entities in most respects: They face no public oversight of their activities, can pay their top executives private-sector salaries and sometimes lobby for positions in conflict with taxpayers. New Jersey and Illinois are among the states considering legislation that would end their inclusion.

"It's a question of, 'Why are we providing government pensions to these private organizations?'" said Illinois Democratic Rep. Elaine Nekritz.

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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/private-lobbyists-get-public-pensions-20-states

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Private lobbyists get public pensions in 20 states (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2013 OP
k and r nashville_brook Aug 2013 #1
This is ridiculous. nt octoberlib Aug 2013 #2
Cities and counties form these associations specifically to evade JimDandy Aug 2013 #3
Recommend! KoKo Aug 2013 #4
k&r n/t RainDog Aug 2013 #5
But, but, but public employees... derp derp, derp nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #6
And ~$20K in Illinois. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2013 #8
We try, but the other attitude is... I got mine, now F U. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #10
This is criminal malaise Aug 2013 #7
Public Money shoveled into "private" pockets... bvar22 Aug 2013 #9
From the Onion? Chuuku Davis Aug 2013 #11
That's a new one to me madville Aug 2013 #12
SHINANIGANS, I call DiverDave Aug 2013 #13

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
3. Cities and counties form these associations specifically to evade
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:34 PM
Aug 2013

public oversite and transparency. They have won court cases against requests for public disclosure on the argument that they are a private entity, and all the while each city and county's membership 'dues' to their association and travel costs to their meetings are paid for from the public trough.

In addition, a significant number of bills they lobby for/against are counter to the public's interest.

This is long past overdue. These lobbying associations shouldn't be able to claim they're a private entity while continuing to collect taxpayer funded pensions for their lobbyists.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. But, but, but public employees... derp derp, derp
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 04:17 PM
Aug 2013

fun fact, the average public employee pension in San Diego is 24K a year.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,835 posts)
8. And ~$20K in Illinois.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 04:52 PM
Aug 2013

Illinois has a pension problem but no one wants to look at the simple ways to resolve it while there's any chance of doing some union busting in the process.
The PTB have done a great PR job here in getting non-pensioners to look at us pensioners and take either of the following positions:

1) Those featherbedding, goldbricking public employees are ripping us off with their gold plated deals! Nobody gets pensions anymore! Where's mine?! I'm not going to pay one more penny in taxes to fix this mess!
2) Sure the public employees aren't to blame. They paid in to the system all theses years BUT they have to be realistic! We just don't have the money!
I've been spending an awful lot of time following published stories on this and fighting ignorance with facts in the comments sections. It's just exhausting.

malaise

(268,993 posts)
7. This is criminal
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 04:19 PM
Aug 2013

Meanwhile the teachers, firemen, public servants, police, etc. lose their pensions.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. Public Money shoveled into "private" pockets...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:06 PM
Aug 2013

This is the Holy Grail for Conservatives and "NeoLiberals" (3rd Way, "New Dems" DLC, etc).

Be prepared for another dam burst between Public Money and "Private Pockets" in 2014 when Billions in "subsidies" begin to flow from the Public Treasury into the Private Pockets of the Health Insurance Industry.



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madville

(7,410 posts)
12. That's a new one to me
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:36 PM
Aug 2013

I thought it was ridiculous when the Chicago union pension scandal broke a couple of years ago, this might beat that one.

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