POLL: How honest is the case for war with Syria?

[yurbud]

After Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and the ongoing war drums against Iran that fits Gen. Wesley Clark's Bush era story of another general showing him a memo with a list of countries to attack or target for regime change, which Obama has pretty much continued to check off by slightly more understated means than Bush.

Conservatives talked of a unipolar moment when we have a brief period to reset the table and clear out middle weight regimes that aren't cooperative with our economic order before a new superpower arises and we are constrained as we were during the Cold War.

And of course the case for the Iraq War was not a matter of mistaken intelligence, but cherry-picking, ignoring analysts, and outright lying.

In that context, how honest do you think the case for attacking Syria is?

7 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	It's mostly honest. The underlying distaste for Assad is coincidence.
	0 (0%)
	Washington wanted to overthrow Assad for other reasons, but the use of chemical weapons made it more urgent and justifiable
	0 (0%)
	Washington wanted to overthrow Assad for other reasons, and were just waiting for something like chemical weapons for an excuse
	1 (14%)
	Washington wanted to overthrow Assad for other reasons, and if the chemical weapons charge didn't stick, they'd latch onto something else
	4 (57%)
	OTHER (please explain)
	2 (29%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[cthulu2016]

1. I think it is embarassingly honest (not geo-political pretext)

I think we probably do not want Assad to fall any time soon, strategically, but we got on the tough-talk express, running our mouth about lines in the sand we assumed wouldn't be crossed and are now stuck with it.

[yurbud]

2. my rule of thumb the last decade or so is any armed revolt is armed and prompted from outside

by us or our proxies in the region.

And the real revolutions start and mostly stay peaceful (at least on the anti-government side).

Washington has been more ginger in their support of the Syrian rebels because of the Manning, Snowden, et al leakfest. Otherwise, things would have moved more quickly and aggressively.

[NightWatcher]

3. Other: it was next on the PNAC list

[yurbud]

6. yep

[pscot]

4. Two points

We don't know if we can trust those making the case.
We don't know where the gas attack came from, if there was one.
We don't know if regime change will improve things. (ok, 3 points)

[yurbud]

5. especially three. How are things going in Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan?

or are we just making more Mad Max republics like Somalia?

[NuclearDem]

7. Justification for war in the Middle East based on WMDs?

Sorry, not buying that bullshit a second time.

[yurbud]

11. at least they aren't bothering to say it's a threat to us this time. On the other hand...

they are just going through the motions of justification like it barely matters.

[blazeKing]

8. I can tell when they're lying for war

It's a skill I picked up from the Bush Iraq war lead up.

They're lying like mad dogs. They wanted Syria from the start and they armed Al Qaeda to take on Syria and they were losing so they came up with this bs. And I hope to god our cia was not behind teaching the rebels to use chemical weapons like they've been caught using 2 times before and blaming on assad.

[yurbud]

10. that's also how you know the war on terror is bullshit--we continue to use al Qaeda when it suits us

like to undermine Iran as well.

[Junkdrawer]

9. Other: Washington has been dead since 1799. The CITY of Washington DC...

has a myriad of players with usually very different agendas.

I think Obama's admin has been deeply divided, but the pro-war hawks wasted no time once the UN inspectors were on the ground to create an incident and thus force the President's hand.

Stinks like last week's fish.

[Javaman]

12. Washington built on a swamp inhabited by scum. nt

[treestar]

13. Has anyone made that case?

Is anyone calling for a "war" in Syria? What do you interpret to be "war?"

[yurbud]

14. what would you call it if some other country launched cruise missiles or air strikes at us?

A diplomatic cable?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

16. .

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[Cali_Democrat]

15. The US govt is currently saying that the overthrow of Assad is not one of their goals. n/t

[yurbud]

17. their actions tell a different story